[Ruse]

This is ridiculous.

Because one person who disagrees with the way I play every game decides that he didn't like my reveal, suddenly it's the worst thing to ever happen in mafia history. All the sheeple latch onto a statement because it's easier than forming their own opinions, and completely lambast a move that I made based upon reason and timing. My reveal made sense, whatever the fuck you say.

And you know what else, I'm tired of people saying that my reveal was shitty because it's vague and I'm holding information back. I'M NOT ALLOWED TO SAY WHAT I AM, AND I'M PROBABLY ALREADY CLOSE TO MODKILL TERRITORY WITH THE HINTS I'VE GIVEN. Again, a single person decides that he is going to dislike what I had to do, and the sheeple latch on.

I hope for your sake, town, that it's the Shields controlling the thread. If it's town that's doing this shit, it's fucking pathetic and we deserve to lose. There better be a finder out there to help you out, because lynches sure as hell aren't going anywhere productive. I would love to hear from the people who haven't posted after this situation, and hear their point of view. If this continues, my faith in town will be completely lost.

I've explained everything I've done reasonably and as fully as I am able to. The massive boners for me are either pathetic or clever scum getting rid of (I assume) town's power player. If this goes through, I'm going to vomit.

Absolutely disgusting. If there is ANYTHING I can do to make you understand where I'm coming from, feel free to ask. I somehow feel that endaveour would be fruitless, seeing as I've explained Tennes questions and he somehow manages to misconstrue everything I say.

Again, enjoy being led around by the nose. Have fun.

[Kalse]

Here briefly.

Ruse is digging himself a progressively deeper hole.

His reveal is frankly, baffling. So baffling that i can hardly believe scum'd make it.

K, gotta run, more later.

[Kalse]

Ruse, on 08 February 2012 - 04:54 PM, said:

This is ridiculous.

Because one person who disagrees with the way I play every game decides that he didn't like my reveal, suddenly it's the worst thing to ever happen in mafia history. All the sheeple latch onto a statement because it's easier than forming their own opinions, and completely lambast a move that I made based upon reason and timing. My reveal made sense, whatever the fuck you say.

And you know what else, I'm tired of people saying that my reveal was shitty because it's vague and I'm holding information back. I'M NOT ALLOWED TO SAY WHAT I AM, AND I'M PROBABLY ALREADY CLOSE TO MODKILL TERRITORY WITH THE HINTS I'VE GIVEN. Again, a single person decides that he is going to dislike what I had to do, and the sheeple latch on.

I hope for your sake, town, that it's the Shields controlling the thread. If it's town that's doing this shit, it's fucking pathetic and we deserve to lose. There better be a finder out there to help you out, because lynches sure as hell aren't going anywhere productive. I would love to hear from the people who haven't posted after this situation, and hear their point of view. If this continues, my faith in town will be completely lost.

I've explained everything I've done reasonably and as fully as I am able to. The massive boners for me are either pathetic or clever scum getting rid of (I assume) town's power player. If this goes through, I'm going to vomit.

Absolutely disgusting. If there is ANYTHING I can do to make you understand where I'm coming from, feel free to ask. I somehow feel that endaveour would be fruitless, seeing as I've explained Tennes questions and he somehow manages to misconstrue everything I say.

Again, enjoy being led around by the nose. Have fun.

once again, instead of b eing butthurt that no onw believes, you, a better way to avoid a lynch would be to contribute, by, y'know, suggesting who may be scum.

Feeling sorry for yourself and blaming the mods for your troubles wont win you much sympathy.

[Rashan]

Ruse, on 08 February 2012 - 04:54 PM, said:

This is ridiculous.

Because one person who disagrees with the way I play every game then you need to change how you play every game because it doesn`t work decides that he didn't like my reveal because it was a shitty reveal, suddenly it's the worst thing to ever happen in mafia history. All the sheeple latch onto a statement because it's easier than forming their own opinions, and completely lambast a move that I made based upon reason and timing. My reveal made sense, whatever the fuck you say.

And you know what else, I'm tired of people saying that my reveal was shitty because it's vague and I'm holding information back. I'M NOT ALLOWED TO SAY WHAT I AM, AND I'M PROBABLY ALREADY CLOSE TO MODKILL TERRITORY WITH THE HINTS I'VE GIVEN. Again, a single person decides that he is going to dislike what I had to do, and the sheeple latch on. If you're going to reveal it is you job to do it right. Yeah, we get it you are limited by what you can say, but that doesn'r mean you just dump out everything you are allowed to say in incoherent shit-stain tribbles. Reveal only what actually makes sense and do it logically, rather than via eight vague, disjunct tidbits of info that conflict each other and look like you are making this up as you go.

I hope for your sake, town, that it's the Shields controlling the thread. If it's town that's doing this shit, it's fucking pathetic and we deserve to lose. There better be a finder out there to help you out, because lynches sure as hell aren't going anywhere productive. I would love to hear from the people who haven't posted after this situation, and hear their point of view. If this continues, my faith in town will be completely lost. Ah yes, your egotistical clunge whining and back-and-forth on your random-as-shit target Barghast has done so very much to help pick lynch targets. We will all be so lost when your keen insight that hasn't helped an ounce departs.

I've explained everything I've done reasonably nope and as fully as I am able to. The massive boners for me are either pathetic or clever scum getting rid of (I assume) town's power player how is "my role sometimes does something but I don't know if and when it does it" a power player?. If this goes through, I'm going to vomit. Please do. On yourself. Then eat it. You deserve it.

Absolutely disgusting. If there is ANYTHING I can do to make you understand where I'm coming from, feel free to ask. I somehow feel that endaveour would be fruitless, seeing as I've explained Tennes questions and he somehow manages to misconstrue everything I say.

Again, enjoy being led around by the nose. You do realize that your plan of "Healer heal me, now everyone do exactly as I say because I have A SUPER AWESOME ROLE but I can't tell you what it is and my efforts to do so don't make any sense" would be far, far more "being led around by the nose" then many of us agreeing that your reveal is shit, you are probably scum and lynching you? Have fun.

^^^

[Ruse]

I'm not blaming the mods for anything. I'm blaming the people following your opinion of my reveal because it's far easier than forming their own opinion. FUCKING DEJA VU, eh Kalse? Remember how wrong you were? This is laughable.

I've had very narrow windows of time today to post. All of that time has been responding to this drivel. Now I'm out of time again, and if I spend too much time on here later today I won't get my paper done.

I'm off for a while.

[Ruse]

Then the healer can stop healing me. Maybe my NA tonight will succeed, and a heal won't matter.

I revealed all the information I could in my original reveal post. People took is, twisted it, and pretended I was dodging questions. Nothing I can do besides answer, which I did. And it still wasn't good enough.

I'm out.

[Kalse]

Ruse, on 08 February 2012 - 05:09 PM, said:

I'm not blaming the mods for anything. I'm blaming the people following your opinion of my reveal because it's far easier than forming their own opinion. FUCKING DEJA VU, eh Kalse? Remember how wrong you were? This is laughable.

I've had very narrow windows of time today to post. All of that time has been responding to this drivel. Now I'm out of time again, and if I spend too much time on here later today I won't get my paper done.

I'm off for a while.

your fixation on me borders on obsessive.

If you recall, i AGREED WITH YOUR BLOODY REVEAL.
You read my off hand comment "poor form" and you think the worlds against you. Open your eyes, genius: i said it made you more likely to be inno.

but, nooo instead of playing the game and doiung something constructive, you decide to keep attacking me. Well, why dont you grow a fucking pair and make a case on me then?

But, noooo, that will involve doing somethig othr thanwhining about how no one fuvking likes you. Newsflash: no one likes a sodding whiner. Right now you are worse than a dead weight. And guess what: i still dont thin your moronic ass is scum. Because no scxum would be fucking dum enough to jump into spotlight like that, not wheb they have an un-fucking touchable symp to do it for them.

K, really out now, lunch was over 7 mins ago.

[Tennes]

Ruse, on 08 February 2012 - 04:54 PM, said:

This is ridiculous.

Because one person who disagrees with the way I play every game decides that he didn't like my reveal, suddenly it's the worst thing to ever happen in mafia history. All the sheeple latch onto a statement because it's easier than forming their own opinions, and completely lambast a move that I made based upon reason and timing. My reveal made sense, whatever the fuck you say.

And you know what else, I'm tired of people saying that my reveal was shitty because it's vague and I'm holding information back. I'M NOT ALLOWED TO SAY WHAT I AM, AND I'M PROBABLY ALREADY CLOSE TO MODKILL TERRITORY WITH THE HINTS I'VE GIVEN. Again, a single person decides that he is going to dislike what I had to do, and the sheeple latch on.

I hope for your sake, town, that it's the Shields controlling the thread. If it's town that's doing this shit, it's fucking pathetic and we deserve to lose. There better be a finder out there to help you out, because lynches sure as hell aren't going anywhere productive. I would love to hear from the people who haven't posted after this situation, and hear their point of view. If this continues, my faith in town will be completely lost.

I've explained everything I've done reasonably and as fully as I am able to. The massive boners for me are either pathetic or clever scum getting rid of (I assume) town's power player. If this goes through, I'm going to vomit.

Absolutely disgusting. If there is ANYTHING I can do to make you understand where I'm coming from, feel free to ask. I somehow feel that endaveour would be fruitless, seeing as I've explained Tennes questions and he somehow manages to misconstrue everything I say.

Again, enjoy being led around by the nose. Have fun.

Why would we have a finder if you are the best thing since sliced bread?
wouldn't that be a bit mad?
I also don't like how you say you are blameless
when in fact, your reaction to the early votes caused this mess
maybe you are skirting the line, it is easy to see you may be
but the downsides of the current situation leave our hands unfree
with you around our healer is easy to predict
making every single of one of Fener's kills a death-verdict
we also have to trust in you
what basis is there for this, all we have is an unmatching clue or two.
You also said you had a case
I still haven't seen it, out with it, give us a taste
you offer no alternative, despite us also disliking aich-pi
you are self-centered and fit scum-profile to a T
Really man, all this penned up rage brings nothing good
no alternatives, just more focus on you
when you read back with a cool head
you'll have to agree that
you didn't play like townies should
making your survival the main issue of this neighbourhood
no fingers, except at me, who thinks you may be scum
OMGUS and sheeple, dude, that's lazy, that's the 1000th bang on that drum
I actually preferred the lynch of the Path of Hood
but you're going to be a massive issue and a distraction, and that's no good
I have 4 decent reasons, all supported
and except by off-apparent thread reference we don't have access to, none's retorted
It is easy to point your finger and say we are wrong and all sheeple
but learn to defend yourself from myself and like-minded people.
Now you're the news of the day twice,
and if you live another, make that thrice
The issue here is that if you are a shield
all of our trust is is misplaced and scum has the field
for our healer will be centered on you
and Fener can and will kill everywhere else, too
not to mention this guard-shit-poo
there are holes in your story, perhaps some P-S caused
but if the neutral observer paused
then it would clear as crystal
that your defense is rermarkably unsubstantial

if you want to live, you need our trust
there is nothing you have done to earn that much
you have no result, your explanation is odd
do the math, man, god
it is exactly how a symp would reveal
and I think that for scum, there is an appeal
to just do it as such
and run the gauntlet, knowing that 4 scum is much
if you are town then I am sorry
but if I went for a fake reveal, I'd use your story
That is why I hesitate to give you time and trust
it is not your death for which I lust
but it is the creeping sense and good arguments that you may be with the Pig
that makes me want to see your CF as a tombstone above the grave we dig.

[Tennes]

Damn.
I just saw that my enforced rhyme had expired an hour ago.

[Tennes]

And actually, despite being quite a hassle, I think I did decent.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 2. 12 hours 10 minutes remaining
13 Players still alive: anthras, barghast, eloth, fener, hood's path, kalse, korbas, olar ethil, osseric, rashan, ruse, sorrit, tennes

7 votes to lynch, 7 votes to go to night.

1 vote fener ( fener )
1 vote sorrit ( eloth )
1 vote rashan ( ruse )
1 vote kalse ( osseric )
1 vote eloth ( sorrit )
3 votes ruse ( tennes, barghast, rashan )

Players not voted: anthras, hood's path, kalse, korbas, olar ethil

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 08 February 2012 - 06:03 PM

[Sorrit]

Tennes, on 08 February 2012 - 05:31 PM, said:

Damn.
I just saw that my enforced rhyme had expired an hour ago.

Well, I think it was still in action when you started to write compose this epic post

[Tennes]

Kalse, on 08 February 2012 - 05:00 PM, said:

Here briefly.

Ruse is digging himself a progressively deeper hole.

His reveal is frankly, baffling. So baffling that i can hardly believe scum'd make it.

K, gotta run, more later.

I agree on the nature of his reveal, it is just too odd.
But his play is so incredibly off from what is in town's best interests - no single role can win the game single handedly and essentially that is what he claims: "I need to live, I am town's best hope." In anything pitting town against scum, town's best hope is always town numbers and intellect.
Secondly, leaving him alive means taking him to the end-game. If he lives and I were the healer, I would continue to heal him and yet at every single time when I submitted it, really, totally, unconditionally question myself if I'm not falling for a symp trap.

[Osseric]

Fener, on 06 February 2012 - 09:58 PM, said:

Osseric, on 06 February 2012 - 09:38 PM, said:

So, pretty much a standard 15 player game, 3 scum vs 12 town. Normally I would start her with a Fener vote... but as that isn't possible, I am at a loss

Vote for me Osseric, I dare you.

I double-dare you.

Someone mentioned that Fener might get more kills if he is voted... looking back at this post by Fener... whoever said that might be correct.

[Rashan]

Osseric, on 08 February 2012 - 05:37 PM, said:

Fener, on 06 February 2012 - 09:58 PM, said:

Osseric, on 06 February 2012 - 09:38 PM, said:

So, pretty much a standard 15 player game, 3 scum vs 12 town. Normally I would start her with a Fener vote... but as that isn't possible, I am at a loss

Vote for me Osseric, I dare you.

I double-dare you.

Someone mentioned that Fener might get more kills if he is voted... looking back at this post by Fener... whoever said that might be correct.

I agree with whoever noted before that it would be a colossal dick move for Twelve to say he is giving us Fener's role PM and it not be the complete PM. So I don't think so.

[Tennes]

Osseric, on 08 February 2012 - 05:37 PM, said:

Fener, on 06 February 2012 - 09:58 PM, said:

Osseric, on 06 February 2012 - 09:38 PM, said:

So, pretty much a standard 15 player game, 3 scum vs 12 town. Normally I would start her with a Fener vote... but as that isn't possible, I am at a loss

Vote for me Osseric, I dare you.

I double-dare you.

Someone mentioned that Fener might get more kills if he is voted... looking back at this post by Fener... whoever said that might be correct.

If the OP contains the entire Tyrant Steve role PM, then no, this isn't so.

Quote

Tyrant Steve

You are the ruler of a small village in a peaceful prosperous kingdom. Your father was a kind and good ruler but alas you are not. For decades your people have not had to worry about anything so they are ripe to be exploited by your evil ways. You have put together 3 citizens that are your own personal bodyguards. These are your Shields and by your own decree they remained hooded and hidden from each other and the local population. Your job is to enjoy life to the fullest

Your role and alt are known to all players at the beginning of the game. You alone know the identity of your protectors. You cannot be lynched if even 1 loyal shield remains alive. You can kill one player at night if you have cast at least one vote during the day. You can at any time afflict one player with either silence or Rhyme Time. (Player must speak in Rhyme). This can be as short or as long as you want but no longer than one game day. You cannot afflict the same player on two successive times nor successive game days. Why you ask? Because you are evil and get a perverse pleasure out of tormenting your people. He can not be lynched while one of his shields live.

That is why he self-votes. There is no other mention of votes in that bit.

edited for cleaning up the quote.

This post has been edited by Tennes: 08 February 2012 - 05:44 PM

[Osseric]

Also, if that is the case (not saying it is) but if that is the case, then Tennes is likely inno as it would be incredibly OP for the shields to be able to vote Fener and have him get extra kills.

[Tennes]

Sorrit, on 08 February 2012 - 05:35 PM, said:

Tennes, on 08 February 2012 - 05:31 PM, said:

Damn.
I just saw that my enforced rhyme had expired an hour ago.

Well, I think it was still in action when you started to write compose this epic post

Thanks, but while it took a while, it didn't take that long, I think... if it did, it shows I'm a complete addict to this game, composing 1 hour posts.

[Osseric]

Well, maybe his shields then get a kill? I don't know, it just seems absurd that a vig would vig on night 1, and then not reveal. It is also a big coincidence that Tennes was the only person that voted Fener, and there was an extra kill. So... either there is a vig out there that fucked up and needs to reveal, or the scum got another kill. Thats the only thing I can think of.

[Osseric]

In regards to Ruse, I don't buy that he is scum. Scum just don't draw attention to themselves the way that Ruse has done. It just never happens.

I am going to

remove vote

vote Hoods path

I think he is more likely to be scum as he is very self centered, scum do tend to overanalyze statements bade towards them, and he seems to be operating in his own little bubble.