[Ruse]

I'm just going to respond to the first response here

I asked the question because I genuinelly didn't know if this type of role would be notified of the difference between a guard and a failed action. I didn't insinuate at all in a way that would fish for information of a guard in the game, I actually didn't know if it were true or not.

You're misunderstanding me. I know what my action does, but I know simply that if failed. I don't know if it failed because of a guard or because the person was inno.

The reason I went after barghast is in the 2nd post I had to make.

[Tennes]

Ruse, on 08 February 2012 - 03:21 PM, said:

I'm just going to respond to the first response here

I asked the question because I genuinelly didn't know if this type of role would be notified of the difference between a guard and a failed action. I didn't insinuate at all in a way that would fish for information of a guard in the game, I actually didn't know if it were true or not.

You're misunderstanding me. I know what my action does, but I know simply that if failed. I don't know if it failed because of a guard or because the person was inno.

The reason I went after barghast is in the 2nd post I had to make.

but acknowledgement of a theory
by P-S is to a degree
an confirmation of the existence of a guard
and no mod can do that, it's not smart.

[Fener]

Tennes, on 08 February 2012 - 03:12 PM, said:

Fener, on 08 February 2012 - 02:53 PM, said:

Indeed, I am. And it's good that you're around. You're a talker. That's good for a text-based game, isn't it?

But you talk so beautifully I thought that you might like to also put it in rhyme.


RHYME TIME FOR TENNES FOR TWO HOURS!!!!!

For two hours, I have to rhyme.
But oh tyrant Steve, have you seen the time?
My twins cut their wrists after your last rape,
yet because loose sphincters leave such a gape
you took them once more despite the Tiste association
And I can't do anything against it, I'm out on probation
The judge will have my head if I act with violence
So I may choose temporary exile and silence
to overcome my sorrow in solitude
and return with a vengeful attitude
to see you stretched between two trees
Your shirvelling little member covered in honey and bees
a rat eating its way up from your butt
your belly slit, your throat cut
Oh watch me rage and spit this rhyme,
Tyrant Steve, will you be my Valentine?

A special tyrant deserves a special day
I'm sure you appreciate the significance of my dismay
that I would select the day of loving couples
to express my hate outright, not subtle

I will treat you to torture you never yet underwent
Really, I will go to every expense
to make your final day amongst the living
A true nightmare, a hell worth giving
to someone of your lofty disposition
Please Tyrant Steve, tell me your decision!

Come with me, oh lord of lard
I don't care if you bring a guard
For I have nothing to lose and a game to win
And over your dead body I can go in
into Spoiler Heaven, that place of truth
with my head held high, and vengeance for my two youths.

Excellent work! Truly excellent work! Perhaps not the entire village is filled by loser idiots, I see. Though I do have to take some credit - after all, where would you be without your inspiration - namely, me?

And your fantasies are impressively detailed, I have to say. Too bad for you they're going to remain just that. But I am feeling generous! Perhaps, if your time should come soon, I will allow you to experience one of those particular tortures you outlined first-hand

[Rashan]

Ruse, on 08 February 2012 - 03:05 PM, said:

Tennes, on 08 February 2012 - 02:32 PM, said:

Ruse, on 08 February 2012 - 01:30 PM, said:

Korbas, on 08 February 2012 - 07:09 AM, said:

Vote Ruse



Ok, he managed to weasel out of a lynch yesterday, and it all sounded somewhat believable. Now, he'd have us believe that whatever he tried to do at night didn't work, hence the existence of a "scum guard" speculation. For the life of me, I can't figure out what role he would be hiding in this setup.


All that comes to mind is that scum greatly benefit any time they can delay the death of one of their own. Even if we came back and lynched Ruse today, he still got us to lose innos on Day 1. That big blue wave smells like it has a lot of fish in it...

I'm not 100% sure that there's a guard. I would try to get the person I performed my action on lynched, but my action may have failed because they're inno, and if they're inno I'm afraid of them being roled.

My role is not a role that expects success every night, so I don't know what you want from me.

Blahblahblah. You're our biggest chance at success (your own words - "I have the most important town role!") but your action doesn't work every night - what, is it made by underpaid chinese kids rather than Germans?

I'm better than a finder. When my result came back negative, I asked PSer if he would tell me if I had been guarded. He responded in the negative, he actually said "now why would I do that?". So I feel that I may have been guarded.

It is really odd if you get the same result when guarded as you do when someone is inno but do get a result when someone is scum.

I don't know if I get the same result when I'm guarded vs the person is inno. It came back that my action failed, I didn't get the result that the person was inno or that I was guarded. I suppose we'll see tonight when I try again.
So either your action didn't work, or you were guarded.

If you think you may be guarded, then that gives scum 2 roles, one killer in Fener, and a guard. So, is someone an extra special guard shield, or can all 3 guard, mr Wave?

If there is a guard, it would seem likely that they only have one. 3 guards seem excessive. As you've pointed out, a single guard seems excessive. But I feel there's a possibility I was guarded last night, regardless.

Apparently your action works like a find in that it works on scum only. Since I really don't believe there are scum guards (or town guards, for that matter), care to tell us who you used it on?

I used it on Barghast. It failed. You can PI Barghast, if you don't believe in the guard.

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Ruse, on 08 February 2012 - 12:20 AM, said:

Okay last post before I leave. I was thinking and I had to come back to write this. Fener was only supposed to be able to kill one person:

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You can kill one player at night if you have cast at least one vote during the day.

Awesome, OE just quoted the post I needed anyway. Do you think he gets an extra kill for each person to vote for him? If so, who was it that voted him? I'm late now. So bye for real.

It doesn't say so in his role PM as it was published: his role only mentions his own vote. I checked that before voting him.
Since his PM is out there, it seems rather unlikely if he has powers like that in addition to what he already has, now does it?

That's the first oddity coming from you today.

I know it seems odd (the 2 kills) that's why I was speculating. I discounted a vig because why the fuck would anyone use a vig on day 1?

Because people still haven't learned a single fucking thing. Vigs are perhaps used more on night 1 than on all other nights combined, look at what Morghy posted last game and when he used it.

Ruse, on 08 February 2012 - 01:36 PM, said:

Wow. I did everything I had to do to give town time to change their vote away from me. I revealed as much information as I was allowed. I hoped that my action would work so I would have something concrete to come back with, but I didn't. I was either guarded or it failed. But I'm feeling even more strongly that I was guarded after some of the recent posts in thread.

I don't have a lot of time right now, but I'll be back in an hour or two. By then I'll have decided whether to make my case or not.

3 votes already. Either scum smell blood, or town is not thinking. I thought Sil's inno CF might help a bit, but apparently not.

Town is thinking you botched your reveal, town is thinking that you are not forthcoming, town is thinking you suggest an inexplicable set-up, town is thinking it is in town's interest if you make your case. Town is thinking that you enjoy the spotlight too much, and town is also thinking that your statements are highly contradicting one another. Town is also thinking that you didn't give a rats arse about giving up Silanah even though they, for all your knowledge, might have been roled as well. This particular member of town is thinking that this is all scummy behavior of a player trying to stay alive and centre-stage for as many days as they can through any trick in the book.



As for your comment that you were rhyming for fun: seriously, you dumb-ass, we work in a game where people can be forced to talk in pictures or in rhyme - you don't think that picking rhyme is then a biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit of a suspect, to not say, poor choice? Really, we're not the ones destroying your fun: you're the one who picks the wrong way to RP: you chose a way that hampered the game. It isn't like there wasn't enough role play if that was what you wanted, either - pages full of Fener and others back-and-forthing in character between Tyrant Steve and his hating subjects.

Silanah's CF does nothing for you except prove part of the theory of Sorrit wrong. And the fact that you easily sold out Silanah does nothing for you.

I also think you should make your case, no matter how weak. To say you have one and then not make it is NOT HOW TOWN PLAYS.
You have done everything to survive in a matter I don't associate with a townie. HP is in a self-contained universe answering only people who confront him directly and wildly flinging around with crap theories and votes and saying people are scummy for accusing others (or more particular, for accusing him).

The two of you are my main choices for scum.

Worst reveal ever.

So Ruse has so far claimed his role
>>> can be guarded
>>> he doesn't know when it succeeds
>>> doesn't succeed when used on an inno
>>> is better than a finder (and finder is amazing so it has to be an immediate action sort of ability like a finder-killer)


and then there's this:

Ruse, on 08 February 2012 - 01:30 PM, said:

I'm not 100% sure that there's a guard. I would try to get the person I performed my action on lynched, but my action may have failed because they're inno, and if they're inno I'm afraid of them being roled.

My role is not a role that expects success every night, so I don't know what you want from me.

Afraid of hitting a roled inno?

Sounds to me like he's accidentally combining finder-killer (kills the target if they are scum) and action-killer (kills the target if they perform an action as well) into one confused fake reveal.

[Ruse]

I think my initial reaction to the failed NA has calmed down somewhat, and I don't think lynching Bargy is needed at all. I'd rather give it another night at least where I can try to get a good action.

[Tennes]

As much as I appreciate the gesture of subjecting me to your torture
I'm afraid you won't get pleasure from your overture
You see, no matter the unleashed antics

I won't feel anything, I'm addicted to anesthetics

[Tennes]

Ruse, on 08 February 2012 - 03:28 PM, said:

I think my initial reaction to the failed NA has calmed down somewhat, and I don't think lynching Bargy is needed at all. I'd rather give it another night at least where I can try to get a good action.

I am sure you would love another night
seeing at it means we'll leave you upright
at the day's conclusion
and lynch someone else - what an illusion

Now let us hear it, make your case
or have you forgotten the promise you put into place?

[Ruse]

My reply function is broken on long quotes for some reason. I'll just do it here.

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Worst reveal ever.

So Ruse has so far claimed his role
>>> can be guarded
>>> he doesn't know when it succeeds
>>> doesn't succeed when used on an inno
>>> is better than a finder (and finder is amazing so it has to be an immediate action sort of ability like a finder-killer)

I know when I succeed. I know when I fail. I just don't know HOW I failed. Because the target was inno, or because I was guarded. Yes, better than a finder.

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Afraid of hitting a roled inno?

Sounds to me like he's accidentally combining finder-killer (kills the target if they are scum) and action-killer (kills the target if they perform an action as well) into one confused fake reveal.

As you can see from my quote, I was afraid of getting a roled inno lynched. My NA would do nothing against a roled inno.

I'm tempted to make an OMGUS case just because you seem incapable of understanding the information I put out there. I have to go, but I'll be back again in an hour or so.

[Rashan]

Also, anyone notice how Fener hasn't commented at all on Ruse's messed up reveal?

Based on his behaviour so far he should've been making twat comments about it for us to ignore just like everything else but he hasn't said a thing about it. Not commenting because he doesn't want to give away anything in case his shield can get out of a lynch?

HP still sounds super scummy but ti's enough that I want to switch.

remove vote
vote Ruse

[Barghast]

@ruse - why would you of investigated me when you didnt make any mention of me yesterday? Also why say your not a finder when you seem to be claiming finder now.

[Tennes]

My kitchen demands my attention, there's leek to be sliced,
taters to be mashed and butter to be diced,
but what really calls me to it like a lighthouse or beacon,
is the thought of sizzling bacon.

[Fener]

Tennes, on 08 February 2012 - 03:40 PM, said:

My kitchen demands my attention, there's leek to be sliced,
taters to be mashed and butter to be diced,
but what really calls me to it like a lighthouse or beacon,
is the thought of sizzling bacon.

I demand a tithe of your dinner!

[Tennes]

Fener, on 08 February 2012 - 03:45 PM, said:

Tennes, on 08 February 2012 - 03:40 PM, said:

My kitchen demands my attention, there's leek to be sliced,
taters to be mashed and butter to be diced,
but what really calls me to it like a lighthouse or beacon,
is the thought of sizzling bacon.

I demand a tithe of your dinner!

A tithe of my dinner will be brought to you;
ready made, steaming and tasty, as is your due.
All homegrown, all organic
and just for you, a special seasoning of arsenic

[Tennes]

Rashan, on 08 February 2012 - 03:33 PM, said:

Also, anyone notice how Fener hasn't commented at all on Ruse's messed up reveal?

Based on his behaviour so far he should've been making twat comments about it for us to ignore just like everything else but he hasn't said a thing about it. Not commenting because he doesn't want to give away anything in case his shield can get out of a lynch?

HP still sounds super scummy but ti's enough that I want to switch.

remove vote
vote Ruse

I agree with both your conclusions
I am pleased that some agree with what may be my delusions
HP and Ruse both rub me the wrong way
and little have I seen from them that will make my opinion sway
towards considering them innocent
and myself as particularly malevolent
instead, with every word I become more adamant
that they are not at all transparant
Something is awry with the both of them
and finding out what is what I plan.

[Sorrit]

I'm around and reading, just silent because a bit baffled.

That's a strange reveal from Ruse, and it's such a bad one that I can't imagine a scum, even in a bind, could not invent something better.

I believe we have a lot to lose by "testing" him, at least if it means lynching him.

Not sure who else to propose, though, when I get home tonight I'll do a quick re-read.

[Rashan]

Sorrit, on 08 February 2012 - 04:08 PM, said:

I'm around and reading, just silent because a bit baffled.

That's a strange reveal from Ruse, and it's such a bad one that I can't imagine a scum, even in a bind, could not invent something better.

I believe we have a lot to lose by "testing" him, at least if it means lynching him.

Not sure who else to propose, though, when I get home tonight I'll do a quick re-read.

Don`t give the scum too much credit. Sometimes they are total idiots and make the stupidest reveals possible.

And sometimes we fall for those stupid reveals...

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 2. 13 hours 19 minutes remaining
13 Players still alive: anthras, barghast, eloth, fener, hood's path, kalse, korbas, olar ethil, osseric, rashan, ruse, silanah, sorrit, tennes

7 votes to lynch, 7 votes to go to night.

1 vote fener ( fener )
1 vote sorrit ( eloth )
1 vote rashan ( ruse )
1 vote kalse ( osseric )
1 vote eloth ( sorrit )
3 votes ruse ( tennes, barghast, rashan )

Players not voted: anthras, hood's path, kalse, korbas, olar ethil, silanah

[Path-Shaper]

I'm a mafia manager idiot. Vote counts are done by hand so if there are errors I'll blame venge.

[Rashan]

Path-Shaper, on 08 February 2012 - 04:26 PM, said:

I'm a mafia manager idiot. Vote counts are done by hand so if there are errors I'll blame venge brood.

Fixed.

[Ruse]

Rashan, on 08 February 2012 - 03:33 PM, said:

Also, anyone notice how Fener hasn't commented at all on Ruse's messed up reveal?

Based on his behaviour so far he should've been making twat comments about it for us to ignore just like everything else but he hasn't said a thing about it. Not commenting because he doesn't want to give away anything in case his shield can get out of a lynch?

HP still sounds super scummy but ti's enough that I want to switch.

remove vote
vote Ruse

That's horrible reasoning. Jesus.

Barghast, on 08 February 2012 - 03:34 PM, said:

@ruse - why would you of investigated me when you didnt make any mention of me yesterday? Also why say your not a finder when you seem to be claiming finder now.

Why would I make mention of you yesterday? You were laying extremely low. People who lay low tend to pop back up when their name is mentioned. I wanted to see if the behavior continued the whole day, and it did. PSer told me that I was not allowed to reveal as finder, even before I realized a reveal would be neccessary.

edit: added a sentence that I forgot.

This post has been edited by Ruse: 08 February 2012 - 04:42 PM