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Prometheus - Ridley Scott AKA ALIEN - Prequel-ish

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Posted 22 December 2011 - 08:14 PM

Okay, a few things. This has gone through Ridley calling it NOT an ALIEN prequel, and then that is actually IS an ALIEN prequel...of sorts.

We now know that it concerns:

"a team of explorers discover a clue to the origins of mankind on Earth, leading them on a thrilling journey to the darkest corners of the universe. There, they must fight a terrifying battle to save the future of the human race."

We also know that it concerns that Space Jockey Giger statue thingie from the first film that is never touched on again in the series. We know that eggs MAY show up (though the Xenophobic aliens will not). So this is a prequel to Ridley's 1979 film ALIEN in a roundabout way. As in I am sure the end result of what happens in PROMETHEUS will be a gateway to the actual Alien that branches off to harass Ripley and Co. , but that it will have much wider implications and purposes not having to do with the xenophobes.

At any rate I am frigging STOKED for this!

I'm not going to post a shitty YouTube link to the trailer, and instead here is the link to watch it in HD at Apple (which is how you should watch it).

You will notice that the teaser's tone and the way the font appears is nearly IDENTICAL to the original ALIEN trailer from '79.

ENJOY! I know I did.

http://trailers.appl...fox/prometheus/

Oh and interesting sidenote that nearly made my head explode. APPARENTLY, Ridley has stated that Michael Fassbender's character is an android BUT that he is closer to a post-BLADE RUNNER Skin Job than he is to Bishop...

holy effing shit....is Ridley uniting the BLADE RUNNER universe with the ALIEN one on some level? That is effing cool.

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Posted 22 December 2011 - 10:38 PM

Interesting. I wonder if the premise implies that we might learn more about what the Aliens are, where they come from and/or who made them or bred them. I believe it is implied that the Aliens are an engineered species but this might be a misconception seeing as they seem to be able to refashion themselves every generation and their adapted biology could be mistaken for a kind of living biological weapon.

I am certainly looking forward to hearing more about the Jockey.
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Posted 22 December 2011 - 10:46 PM

So, after I pulled myself together from the massive Geekgasm. All I can say is that this looks, awesome in every way.
If the Xenomorphs are indeed weapons then we may get to see the prototypes in this film. I'm also looking forward to the link between humanity or life on Earth and the space jockey.
The music, the visuals all promise. Though I do not think he's merged Blade Runner and Alien. I think he was just making a comparison fans would be aware of.

Also, here is are High Definition youtube links (in case you don't want to use Apple):




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Posted 22 December 2011 - 10:49 PM

I've been waiting for this for years and it did not disappoint. It is glorious.

Some thoughts
- Giger's influences drips in some of those interiors, even with the vaginal canal widened.

- Captain Janek (Idris Elbas character) wears a Weyland insignia.

- Looks like there may be two Derelicts... I am intrigued.

- Terrific shot of the Space Jockey head (or perhaps biomechanical helmet?) Gasp

- When the Space Jockeys chair rises, there is a mysterious bald man to the right that I have never seen before.

- The Urns and the giant head are definitely the stars of the trailer. The implications are Earth shattering.

- Above the waterfall, that's no derelict...

- Scott once said, "This set and these films exist largely because of your enthusiasm
and support over the last three decades. I hope you enjoy what I have in
store for you as we return to this dark, mysterious universe filled with
Aliens, Space Jockeys, and... something even more dangerous that you haven't
seen yet."

Creator? Catalyst?

- Ridley Scott once again shows proof that CGI is not the way.

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Posted 22 December 2011 - 11:20 PM

I am so fucken excited for this. With Alien being my favouriteh movie, and with Aliens my second I really hope that this will kick ass and redeem the "alien" name (even if it does not have the known xenomorph) after all these ass horrible sequels and the AvP bullshit that I refuse to believe exists.

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Posted 23 December 2011 - 01:17 PM

Wait wait wait...

ALIEN 3 is a David Fincher flick, and it's not half bad!

and ALIEN RESURRECTION is Jean Pierre Jeunet and it's good for about an hour and ten minutes, after which the story goes south.
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Posted 23 December 2011 - 03:30 PM

Because I have a lot of love for David Fincher, I really wanted to give Alien 3 a chance, but when they started off with

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That trailer, by the way, looks very ace.

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Posted 23 December 2011 - 04:16 PM

Oh, ALIEN 3 (or ALIEN Cubed as my friends call it) is my least fave of all the films, but it has decent enough moments.

I will agree that I was also annoyed by Newt and Hicks not surviving, and that's my major reason for putting it at the bottom of the list, but it has a few redeeming qualities.

That said, you really aren't missing much.
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Posted 23 December 2011 - 05:37 PM

I think I mainly love Alien 3 BECAUSE newt and that marine didn't survive. I thought that was a ballsy trick to pull, made even better by Riply reactivating the fucked up Bishop android. That shit was grotesque.

Ripleys story becomes more interesting because she is now alone on a prison planet with a rapetastic bunch of religious loons.

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Posted 23 December 2011 - 05:38 PM

 Darkwatch, on 22 December 2011 - 10:46 PM, said:

Though I do not think he's merged Blade Runner and Alien. I think he was just making a comparison fans would be aware of.


Um...actually they already DO occupy the same universe (just not as blatantly as replicants and androids being similar, which is what I was excited about)

The Nostromo (ALIEN) & the Spinners (BLADE RUNNER) both use Environ fuel.

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Posted 23 December 2011 - 05:40 PM

Reasons to dislike ALIEN 3. The amount of excellent ideas and scripts got pitched before they shot and Fincher had to shoot with no finished script on hand.

Un spoiler the text to read where it COULD have gone (I am partial to the original idea for Alien 3 & 4 with Hicks in the lead for 3 and Ripley for 4):

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Posted 23 December 2011 - 06:00 PM

It does look like some of those ideas may have been brought back for Prometheus;
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Posted 23 December 2011 - 06:05 PM

 polishgenius, on 23 December 2011 - 06:00 PM, said:

It does look like some of those ideas may have been brought back for Prometheus;
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Indeed.

My mind is still reeling by how perfectly the PROMETHEUS trailer mimics the 1979 ALIEN teaser, music, ships, font reveal, tunnel running, space suits, cryo-stasis pods, the derelict ring ship from ALIEN (before it was derelict and crashing!!). Ridley Scott is the BEST!

Gods, I just want to go home and devour my new BluRay ALIEN anthology purchase.
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Posted 23 December 2011 - 06:38 PM

The trailer is very much in the style and atmosphere of the very first Alien movie, which is a good thing. Also, to me, this seems like it is almost a prequel of a prequel to Alien.

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Posted 23 December 2011 - 06:42 PM

 GaystadFlourishHammer, on 23 December 2011 - 06:38 PM, said:

The trailer is very much in the style and atmosphere of the very first Alien movie, which is a good thing. Also, to me, this seems like it is almost a prequel of a prequel to Alien.



Indeed and interesting point, and if it is, I will be really pleased!
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Posted 24 December 2011 - 12:30 AM

*SO EXCITE*

Ah, man, CANNOT WAIT. :D :p :D


Incidentally, though of dubious canon-ness, the AvP novels/comics (NOT the movies, haters :p) have implied on occasion that the Yautja (Predators) breed the aliens for sport...but iirc there's been a hint or two that they also may have created the aliens themselves. Can't see Scott running with that, but can you imagine the mix of fangasm and internet backlash if he did? XD
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Posted 24 December 2011 - 06:50 PM

Alleged synopsis of the movie (note: may contain total bollocks or may spoil the entire movie, so read at your own risk).

Considering the synopsis spoiler was released a month ago, long before the trailer appeared, there appears to be a lot of similarities between the two. Could still be a foiler though (since a no-effects version of the trailer leaked around the same time).

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While Im not huge diehard fan of this franchise Im still excited enought to go see this show at the theater. I am confused about this being a prequel with no Alien in it though.


It is a prequel to ALIEN, set in the same universe and featuring the backstory to several notable existing elements, including:

The space jockey alien and the derelict spacecraft from ALIEN.
The Company from the first three films.
How the xeno eggs ended up on the derelict spacecraft and how it crashed on LV-426.

However, it doesn't feature the familiar xenomorphs themselves. It apparently touches on similar and related elements, but the familiar, Giger-designed creature will not appear as Scott feels it's worn out as a shape and is no longer frightening. According to rumour, Fox may have also felt that the audience may have grown tired of new ALIEN movies and are hence more interested in marketing this as Ridley Scott's first SF movie since BLADE RUNNER and how it's set in the ALIEN universe but isn't actually an ALIEN movie itself.
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Posted 24 December 2011 - 07:04 PM

I feel inclined to wear my Weyland-Yutani t-shirt when I see this opening night. :D
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Posted 28 February 2012 - 08:36 PM

Watch Guy Pierce's character from PROMETHEUS, business magnate Peter Weyland (of the corporation that will one day be Weyland-Yutani and send the Nostromo on it's mission, colonize LV426 ect. in the Alien films) give a TED talk

Enjoy!

http://collider.com/...weyland/148681/

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 04:41 AM

 QuickTidal, on 28 February 2012 - 08:36 PM, said:

Watch Guy Pierce's character from PROMETHEUS, business magnate Peter Weyland (of the corporation that will one day be Weyland-Yutani and send the Nostromo on it's mission, colonize LV426 ect. in the Alien films) give a TED talk

Enjoy!

http://collider.com/...weyland/148681/



Thanks QT.

Edit:
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