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#81 User is offline   Spite 

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Posted 28 November 2011 - 07:45 PM

View PostGalain, on 28 November 2011 - 07:42 PM, said:

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View PostSpite, on 28 November 2011 - 07:39 PM, said:

View PostEmurlahn, on 28 November 2011 - 07:25 PM, said:

View PostMockra, on 28 November 2011 - 07:16 PM, said:

Right, the Galain vote from Rashan does look like deflecting. Voting master over symp is definitely the best approach but I can't decide whether Rashan is symping Ano or you're symping Rashan. Spite if you are inno then why the hell would you triple-vote someone on day 1? I can't see how it does anything except cause confusion for town.

For now I'll leave my vote where it is. Rashan has some 'splaining to do.



Deflecting from what? Someone feeling the need to deflect from a day 1 single vote would be... not smart?

I like Rashan as a target, I suppose, but a deflection there seems unneeded.


vote rashan

Does this answer your question?



is that vote no. 4?


ZOMG Quadruple Vote! :crybaby:

But I think his previous remove gets rid of the first three, so perhaps not.


If I vote for him 5 more times will that be a lynch?

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Posted 28 November 2011 - 07:51 PM

View PostSpite, on 28 November 2011 - 07:45 PM, said:

View PostGalain, on 28 November 2011 - 07:42 PM, said:

View PostKessobahn, on 28 November 2011 - 07:40 PM, said:

View PostSpite, on 28 November 2011 - 07:39 PM, said:

View PostEmurlahn, on 28 November 2011 - 07:25 PM, said:

View PostMockra, on 28 November 2011 - 07:16 PM, said:

Right, the Galain vote from Rashan does look like deflecting. Voting master over symp is definitely the best approach but I can't decide whether Rashan is symping Ano or you're symping Rashan. Spite if you are inno then why the hell would you triple-vote someone on day 1? I can't see how it does anything except cause confusion for town.

For now I'll leave my vote where it is. Rashan has some 'splaining to do.



Deflecting from what? Someone feeling the need to deflect from a day 1 single vote would be... not smart?

I like Rashan as a target, I suppose, but a deflection there seems unneeded.


vote rashan

Does this answer your question?



is that vote no. 4?


ZOMG Quadruple Vote! :crybaby:

But I think his previous remove gets rid of the first three, so perhaps not.


If I vote for him 5 more times will that be a lynch?



i dunno, are you the shogun?

he's the only one I can see having a power to execute, :admin:

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Posted 28 November 2011 - 07:52 PM

....Facebook is naked?

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Posted 28 November 2011 - 07:52 PM

Mockra's helpful summary is helpful...for me to spot scum!

Vota Mockra

Scum always feel under extra pressure to look like they have content in their posts, but without giving away any indication of their own thoughts. Hence the vote on Mockra is my favourite choice right now.

But I am curious as to what Thyrllan is attempting to say..........

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Posted 28 November 2011 - 07:52 PM

Also, I have accidentally clicked the facebook link, by the share button when trying yo navigate to next page. and now facebook is watching us.



I have solved the mystery of the bots.

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Posted 28 November 2011 - 07:55 PM

View PostEmurlahn, on 28 November 2011 - 07:25 PM, said:

View PostMockra, on 28 November 2011 - 07:16 PM, said:

Right, the Galain vote from Rashan does look like deflecting. Voting master over symp is definitely the best approach but I can't decide whether Rashan is symping Ano or you're symping Rashan. Spite if you are inno then why the hell would you triple-vote someone on day 1? I can't see how it does anything except cause confusion for town.

For now I'll leave my vote where it is. Rashan has some 'splaining to do.



Deflecting from what? Someone feeling the need to deflect from a day 1 single vote would be... not smart?

I like Rashan as a target, I suppose, but a deflection there seems unneeded.


Well, I guess taking the political joke into account it looks less like deflecting. But I still find the timing and target weird. So I'm not ready to dismiss it yet.

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Posted 28 November 2011 - 07:56 PM

View PostKessobahn, on 28 November 2011 - 07:51 PM, said:

i dunno, are you the shogun?

he's the only one I can see having a power to execute, :crybaby:


*Siren starts sounding*

OUT OF THE BLUE ROLE SPEC ALERT, OUT OF THE BLUE ROLE SPEC ALERT! (For maximum effect imagine someone saying this with the inflection of the person who says "Time for tubby bye-byes" on the Teletubbies and the excitement of someone commentating on a horse race).

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Posted 28 November 2011 - 07:57 PM

View PostSpite, on 28 November 2011 - 07:36 PM, said:

View PostEmurlahn, on 28 November 2011 - 07:27 PM, said:

View PostSpite, on 28 November 2011 - 07:24 PM, said:

View PostEmurlahn, on 28 November 2011 - 07:20 PM, said:

The triple voting makes me laugh. A certain mafia player has been lynched the past 2 games for double voting on day 1. He claims he is trying to break the habit of town lynching people for shitty signaling cases, as they're never true.



Aaaaand the reaction I was looking for. (Mockra)



What about Mockra's reaction did you like?

Also, Kesso should be joining us soon, it appears. NEKKID


Mockra was all accusing me of acting all symp like for my triple vote when we've had two straight games where someone double votes someone and they end up getting lynched for signaling. I wanted him to know that you are allowed to have a little bit of fun while weeding out the scum.


See I have the opposite reaction - I have the urge to lynch whoever double/triple votes until they realize that it's distracting and not helpful. :crybaby:

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Posted 28 November 2011 - 07:58 PM

View PostGalain, on 28 November 2011 - 07:56 PM, said:

View PostKessobahn, on 28 November 2011 - 07:51 PM, said:

i dunno, are you the shogun?

he's the only one I can see having a power to execute, :crybaby:


*Siren starts sounding*

OUT OF THE BLUE ROLE SPEC ALERT, OUT OF THE BLUE ROLE SPEC ALERT! (For maximum effect imagine someone saying this with the inflection of the person who says "Time for tubby bye-byes" on the Teletubbies and the excitement of someone commentating on a horse race).



never seen teletubbies.

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Posted 28 November 2011 - 07:59 PM

View PostKessobahn, on 28 November 2011 - 07:42 PM, said:

View PostGalain, on 28 November 2011 - 07:40 PM, said:

View PostThyrllan, on 28 November 2011 - 07:35 PM, said:

No. No! I refuse to play a role that is 2 words and 14 syllables long.


14 syllables? What madness is this!? <----(Yeah, that's right, !?. If I had an interrobang character, I would use it).

Explain yourself, good sir. And just in case you lack incentive to do so,

Remove Vote
Vote Thyrllan





THIS






IS











SENGOKUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!!!!!!!!









*insert the sparta meme pic here*


what he said^^

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Posted 28 November 2011 - 08:00 PM

View PostMockra, on 28 November 2011 - 07:57 PM, said:

View PostSpite, on 28 November 2011 - 07:36 PM, said:

View PostEmurlahn, on 28 November 2011 - 07:27 PM, said:

View PostSpite, on 28 November 2011 - 07:24 PM, said:

View PostEmurlahn, on 28 November 2011 - 07:20 PM, said:

The triple voting makes me laugh. A certain mafia player has been lynched the past 2 games for double voting on day 1. He claims he is trying to break the habit of town lynching people for shitty signaling cases, as they're never true.



Aaaaand the reaction I was looking for. (Mockra)



What about Mockra's reaction did you like?

Also, Kesso should be joining us soon, it appears. NEKKID


Mockra was all accusing me of acting all symp like for my triple vote when we've had two straight games where someone double votes someone and they end up getting lynched for signaling. I wanted him to know that you are allowed to have a little bit of fun while weeding out the scum.


See I have the opposite reaction - I have the urge to lynch whoever double/triple votes until they realize that it's distracting and not helpful. :crybaby:


Pfff, if it provides a nucleation point for further conversation then it is helpful. Far more helpful than random "Here, checking in, back in 100 hours" messages, of which there seem to be far too many. It would only be distracting if someone actually said something incriminating to distract from...and I don't see much of that on the first page. Are you saying you do? In which case, out with it!

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Posted 28 November 2011 - 08:01 PM

Remove Vote

Vote Thyrllan



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Posted 28 November 2011 - 08:01 PM

View PostKessobahn, on 28 November 2011 - 07:58 PM, said:

View PostGalain, on 28 November 2011 - 07:56 PM, said:

View PostKessobahn, on 28 November 2011 - 07:51 PM, said:

i dunno, are you the shogun?

he's the only one I can see having a power to execute, :crybaby:


*Siren starts sounding*

OUT OF THE BLUE ROLE SPEC ALERT, OUT OF THE BLUE ROLE SPEC ALERT! (For maximum effect imagine someone saying this with the inflection of the person who says "Time for tubby bye-byes" on the Teletubbies and the excitement of someone commentating on a horse race).



never seen teletubbies.


Allow me to fix that for you: http://www.youtube.c...h?v=yfYP56ziEU4


(EDITED for spacing)

This post has been edited by Galain: 28 November 2011 - 08:03 PM


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Posted 28 November 2011 - 08:11 PM

View PostEmurlahn, on 28 November 2011 - 08:01 PM, said:

Remove Vote

Vote Thyrllan






ooh, a double voter calling out a triple voter!

and, no, I will not press the link, i will not press the link. I will not.........

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Posted 28 November 2011 - 08:15 PM

View PostKessobahn, on 28 November 2011 - 08:11 PM, said:

View PostEmurlahn, on 28 November 2011 - 08:01 PM, said:

Remove Vote

Vote Thyrllan






ooh, a double voter calling out a triple voter!

and, no, I will not press the link, i will not press the link. I will not.........


Did I miss Emurlahn voting for Thyrllan earlier, or are you confusing him and me? Our avatars are quite similar, 'tis true...

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Posted 28 November 2011 - 08:21 PM

ooops

yes, your avis are eerily similar.

mods should look into that.

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Posted 28 November 2011 - 08:21 PM

Galain said:

Rashan said:

View PostGalain, on 28 November 2011 - 12:53 PM, said:

View PostAnomandaris, on 28 November 2011 - 08:46 AM, said:

oh - you werent talking to me. I think i need coffee.


Were you not listening to PS? This is a TEA PARTY! None of that coffee rubbish here, thank you very much.

Vote Anomandaris


Anti-government political party = anti-Shogunate. Death to Galain!

vote Galain



I cannot understand this vote for the life of me...anti-government? What? Coming so quickly after Galain's vote makes it suspicious too. And then there's Spite -

View PostSpite, on 28 November 2011 - 04:17 PM, said:

View PostRashan, on 28 November 2011 - 09:41 AM, said:

Checking in. My sword for the Ahikaga! It might be boasting, but that one sword will contribute more to Japan's population than the entirety of those two half -arsed untrained formations of ashigaru spearmen at my back.



Check in caught up and

vote rashan

for bragging that he is a killer and outing that he has 2 symps.


View PostSpite, on 28 November 2011 - 04:20 PM, said:

Finally

vote rashan

so I can mock the people who will now accuse me of being his symp because I triple voted for him.


Now, I actually agree with Spite's first post there...anyone who self-describes as a killer is always a suspect, but the triple-vote makes things even weirder. Spite straight up calls Rashan a killer, calls himself Rashan's symp, triple-votes Rashan, and then quickly switches his vote off Rashan. I realize this is all pretty obvious but Spite's play does seem symp-like; the "voting-as-signalling" argument gets weaker every game but at some point scum are going to take advantage of that and actually use it.

For now,

Vote Rashan



Everyone who failed to understand what I meant has a. never played Shogun (2): Total War b. watched Kurosawa movies c. read the OP d. checked wiki on shogunate and/or Japanese society e. no knowledge of the tea party.

a. Means not much, actually, apart from missing a classic game (so you're probably under 30).
b. means you have no taste or cultural refinement.
c. is a serious and potentially lethal disease that a lot of mafia players suffer from, nowadays. The tricky bit is that it often leads to a few lynched townies by people who then shamelessly confess "didn't read OP, only contains stories, amirite? lolz." It invariably fucks town's chances right up the ass and reduces them from 50-50 to 40-60 due to the uncaring lynching of people by people who only start to play once worst case scenario shows that D-day is a number of days away that's equal to the number of nipples they possess.
d. is a decent prep that takes 5 minutes to understand themes and terms, but is optional.
e. you're unaware of current events and probably live in a cave.

So, yeah, Galain, you suck.

Now we get to a serious part. Not only do you suck, you also see Spite as a symp (in which case you vote the master). Now, if I were his master, would his symping be really so blatant? Lynch me, if I am named Hojo or come up Hojo, you also have bagged yourself a symp. Which is bad symp play and nothing else. So, simple and obvious conclusion that you once again miss: no matter what my alignment or Spites alignment might be, it is fairly easy to see that a master-symp relation between Spite and me would be impossible.

View PostSpite, on 28 November 2011 - 06:46 PM, said:

I totally missed that interaction between Rashan, Galain and Ano. Factor in what Mockra pointed out, with Rashan's comment about being a killer with two spearmen behind him and It's sounding more and more like Rashan is a symp to one killer possibly Ano.

remove vote


Ah, let's go for a double face palm here. An ashigaru is a peasant spearman. They're usually commanded by their feudal lord. Which translates into a minor daimyo, because anyone of bigger stature is probably having a samurai retinue. I was merely reflecting on the PUBLISHED RI ROLE.
But apparently, I went a gear or two too fast for everyone else.

View PostEmurlahn, on 28 November 2011 - 07:17 PM, said:

Mockra, the Tea Party vote was a joke vote or an accusation of signaling based on the Tea Party in America that is anti-government currently. Rashan was saying that Galain is being anti-government (ie the good guys).



View PostSpite, on 28 November 2011 - 07:39 PM, said:

View PostEmurlahn, on 28 November 2011 - 07:25 PM, said:

View PostMockra, on 28 November 2011 - 07:16 PM, said:

Right, the Galain vote from Rashan does look like deflecting. Voting master over symp is definitely the best approach but I can't decide whether Rashan is symping Ano or you're symping Rashan. Spite if you are inno then why the hell would you triple-vote someone on day 1? I can't see how it does anything except cause confusion for town.

For now I'll leave my vote where it is. Rashan has some 'splaining to do.



Deflecting from what? Someone feeling the need to deflect from a day 1 single vote would be... not smart?

I like Rashan as a target, I suppose, but a deflection there seems unneeded.


vote rashan

Does this answer your question?


Edit : Highlighted referenced post

Oh god, poor little attention whore and her stuck record are at it again. Listen, deflection would be idiotic and completely contraproductive to the situation. In fact, if you wish to deflect a joke vote, you add your vote to that guy and people will go wtf, 2 votes for 1 guy and I don't see why??? Must remove!
I was making a joke (plus joke vote) that went over the heads of all of you. Not my fault you don't share my sense of humor or my taste in movies/games/history (or my looks, intelligence, modesty and ability to make others look bad). That's all, as well as pointing out a potential symping clue.
Why the fuck would I wish to deflect a day 1 joke vote, even if I was a symp and even if Ano was my master? It's a frikking joke vote, just like Spite's 19845871569 votes for me so far (well, apart from the last one, perhaps).



Oh, as for the avatar switching, this alt possessed the old Emurlahn avatar, so I sought for the kanji that translate as Shadow in Japanese. This is it. I guess that makes me a ninja, now?

This post has been edited by Rashan: 28 November 2011 - 08:23 PM


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Posted 28 November 2011 - 08:22 PM

View PostKessobahn, on 28 November 2011 - 08:11 PM, said:

View PostEmurlahn, on 28 November 2011 - 08:01 PM, said:

Remove Vote

Vote Thyrllan






ooh, a double voter calling out a triple voter!

and, no, I will not press the link, i will not press the link. I will not.........


i'm not even a triple poster, let alone a triple voter!

vote keso

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Posted 28 November 2011 - 08:24 PM

View PostGalain, on 28 November 2011 - 08:00 PM, said:

View PostMockra, on 28 November 2011 - 07:57 PM, said:

View PostSpite, on 28 November 2011 - 07:36 PM, said:

View PostEmurlahn, on 28 November 2011 - 07:27 PM, said:

View PostSpite, on 28 November 2011 - 07:24 PM, said:

View PostEmurlahn, on 28 November 2011 - 07:20 PM, said:

The triple voting makes me laugh. A certain mafia player has been lynched the past 2 games for double voting on day 1. He claims he is trying to break the habit of town lynching people for shitty signaling cases, as they're never true.



Aaaaand the reaction I was looking for. (Mockra)



What about Mockra's reaction did you like?

Also, Kesso should be joining us soon, it appears. NEKKID


Mockra was all accusing me of acting all symp like for my triple vote when we've had two straight games where someone double votes someone and they end up getting lynched for signaling. I wanted him to know that you are allowed to have a little bit of fun while weeding out the scum.


See I have the opposite reaction - I have the urge to lynch whoever double/triple votes until they realize that it's distracting and not helpful. :crybaby:


Pfff, if it provides a nucleation point for further conversation then it is helpful. Far more helpful than random "Here, checking in, back in 100 hours" messages, of which there seem to be far too many. It would only be distracting if someone actually said something incriminating to distract from...and I don't see much of that on the first page. Are you saying you do? In which case, out with it!


Well, I agree that pretty much anything is better than "Checking in, bye!", but I still think that deliberate mis-voting is and should be considered suspicious. I think that "certain mafia player" even made the argument that he was doing it deliberately so that it would be seen as "normal" - so that eventually scum could use it again to hide their signals. Personally, I think the opposite would work even better - lynch anyone who double/triple votes on day one until it's impossible for scum to use it, since they know they'll be lynched. :admin:

Both of Thyrllan's posts are pretty weird. I'd like to see some actual comments from him.

Are we still waiting on a couple people to check in?

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Posted 28 November 2011 - 08:25 PM

View PostRashan, on 28 November 2011 - 08:21 PM, said:

Galain said:

Rashan said:

View PostGalain, on 28 November 2011 - 12:53 PM, said:

View PostAnomandaris, on 28 November 2011 - 08:46 AM, said:

oh - you werent talking to me. I think i need coffee.


Were you not listening to PS? This is a TEA PARTY! None of that coffee rubbish here, thank you very much.

Vote Anomandaris


Anti-government political party = anti-Shogunate. Death to Galain!

vote Galain



I cannot understand this vote for the life of me...anti-government? What? Coming so quickly after Galain's vote makes it suspicious too. And then there's Spite -

View PostSpite, on 28 November 2011 - 04:17 PM, said:

View PostRashan, on 28 November 2011 - 09:41 AM, said:

Checking in. My sword for the Ahikaga! It might be boasting, but that one sword will contribute more to Japan's population than the entirety of those two half -arsed untrained formations of ashigaru spearmen at my back.



Check in caught up and

vote rashan

for bragging that he is a killer and outing that he has 2 symps.


View PostSpite, on 28 November 2011 - 04:20 PM, said:

Finally

vote rashan

so I can mock the people who will now accuse me of being his symp because I triple voted for him.


Now, I actually agree with Spite's first post there...anyone who self-describes as a killer is always a suspect, but the triple-vote makes things even weirder. Spite straight up calls Rashan a killer, calls himself Rashan's symp, triple-votes Rashan, and then quickly switches his vote off Rashan. I realize this is all pretty obvious but Spite's play does seem symp-like; the "voting-as-signalling" argument gets weaker every game but at some point scum are going to take advantage of that and actually use it.

For now,

Vote Rashan



Everyone who failed to understand what I meant has a. never played Shogun (2): Total War b. watched Kurosawa movies c. read the OP d. checked wiki on shogunate and/or Japanese society e. no knowledge of the tea party.

a. Means not much, actually, apart from missing a classic game (so you're probably under 30).
b. means you have no taste or cultural refinement.
c. is a serious and potentially lethal disease that a lot of mafia players suffer from, nowadays. The tricky bit is that it often leads to a few lynched townies by people who then shamelessly confess "didn't read OP, only contains stories, amirite? lolz." It invariably fucks town's chances right up the ass and reduces them from 50-50 to 40-60 due to the uncaring lynching of people by people who only start to play once worst case scenario shows that D-day is a number of days away that's equal to the number of nipples they possess.
d. is a decent prep that takes 5 minutes to understand themes and terms, but is optional.
e. you're unaware of current events and probably live in a cave.

So, yeah, Galain, you suck.

Now we get to a serious part. Not only do you suck, you also see Spite as a symp (in which case you vote the master). Now, if I were his master, would his symping be really so blatant? Lynch me, if I am named Hojo or come up Hojo, you also have bagged yourself a symp. Which is bad symp play and nothing else. So, simple and obvious conclusion that you once again miss: no matter what my alignment or Spites alignment might be, it is fairly easy to see that a master-symp relation between Spite and me would be impossible.

View PostSpite, on 28 November 2011 - 06:46 PM, said:

I totally missed that interaction between Rashan, Galain and Ano. Factor in what Mockra pointed out, with Rashan's comment about being a killer with two spearmen behind him and It's sounding more and more like Rashan is a symp to one killer possibly Ano.

remove vote


Ah, let's go for a double face palm here. An ashigaru is a peasant spearman. They're usually commanded by their feudal lord. Which translates into a minor daimyo, because anyone of bigger stature is probably having a samurai retinue. I was merely reflecting on the PUBLISHED RI ROLE.
But apparently, I went a gear or two too fast for everyone else.

View PostEmurlahn, on 28 November 2011 - 07:17 PM, said:

Mockra, the Tea Party vote was a joke vote or an accusation of signaling based on the Tea Party in America that is anti-government currently. Rashan was saying that Galain is being anti-government (ie the good guys).



View PostSpite, on 28 November 2011 - 07:39 PM, said:

View PostEmurlahn, on 28 November 2011 - 07:25 PM, said:

View PostMockra, on 28 November 2011 - 07:16 PM, said:

Right, the Galain vote from Rashan does look like deflecting. Voting master over symp is definitely the best approach but I can't decide whether Rashan is symping Ano or you're symping Rashan. Spite if you are inno then why the hell would you triple-vote someone on day 1? I can't see how it does anything except cause confusion for town.

For now I'll leave my vote where it is. Rashan has some 'splaining to do.



Deflecting from what? Someone feeling the need to deflect from a day 1 single vote would be... not smart?

I like Rashan as a target, I suppose, but a deflection there seems unneeded.


vote rashan

Does this answer your question?


Edit : Highlighted referenced post

Oh god, poor little attention whore and her stuck record are at it again. Listen, deflection would be idiotic and completely contraproductive to the situation. In fact, if you wish to deflect a joke vote, you add your vote to that guy and people will go wtf, 2 votes for 1 guy and I don't see why??? Must remove!
I was making a joke (plus joke vote) that went over the heads of all of you. Not my fault you don't share my sense of humor or my taste in movies/games/history (or my looks, intelligence, modesty and ability to make others look bad). That's all, as well as pointing out a potential symping clue.
Why the fuck would I wish to deflect a day 1 joke vote, even if I was a symp and even if Ano was my master? It's a frikking joke vote, just like Spite's 19845871569 votes for me so far (well, apart from the last one, perhaps).



Oh, as for the avatar switching, this alt possessed the old Emurlahn avatar, so I sought for the kanji that translate as Shadow in Japanese. This is it. I guess that makes me a ninja, now?


Rashan = darkness, not shadow.

Idiot.

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