[Ruse]

I have returned! Reading up

[Mockra]

Thyrllan, on 28 November 2011 - 08:26 PM, said:

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Wasabi christ! I've been here all of 2 seconds, it's day 1 and you now want "some actual comments" from me? Serious fukceroo business much? You're probably some lame-ass Uesugi lacky trying to act all serious cause you wish you had a real role

I don't like this at all. Asking for comments instead of deliberate nonsense is not unreasonable and this is exactly the kind of reaction that sets off alarm bells. His play has been consistent so far - which is to say, negligible - so for now I'm going to leave my vote here.

Remove vote

Vote Thyrllan


Rashan definitely overreacted to the tea party confusion, but at least he responded, unlike Thyrllan, who almost seems opposed to contribution.

Anyway, I'm out, I should be back right before deadline.

[Path-Shaper]

Hojo reigned in his horse and surveyed the surrounding treeline from his vantage point on the bluff. By now his messages should have gone through, the wheels should be in motion. The Ashikaga official was new to his post, and Hojo hoped he wouldn't receive much in the way of help from the Shogun in Kyoto. His predecessor certainly hadn't, and the latest Shogun was by all accounts a push-over, more concerned with moon viewing parties and poetry readings than with governing the realm.

His horse shied suddenly as a kitsune (fox) burst from the brush, sending nearby birds screeching into the air. Backing his mount carefully back from the edge of the bluff, Souen wondered idly if that had been a spirit with a message. Indeed, that implied message was rather apt. All his plans must be cleverly laid, trusting only a few - because the cliff would always be waiting for a single misstep.


Settled into his new offices, Ashikaga Masamoto read the beginning missives from the local clan leaders. Nothing of interest, just the usual obsequious insincere bowing and scraping. Finishing the last one, (a particularily ingratiating one from a certain Iida Gen), he set parchment before himself and brushed a request to the Shogun for more retainers. How uncivilized this part of the country was compared to Kyoto!

[Kessobahn]

you know, Thyr voted for me because he misanderstood my comment about the double voter calling out the triple voter (which was faulty anyhow, b/c I confused Emur and Galain b/c of their avis).



I promptly explained the mistake, but he didn't remove the vote.
in light of his incativity since then, I feel pretty confident in doing this


vote Thyrlann

since I may not be awake around dealine (if the last few weeks are anyhting to go by, I won't be awake)

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 1, 8 hours and 30 minutes are left in the day.

17 players alive: Anomandaris, Atrahal, Emurlahn, Galain, Gamelon, Hood's Path, Kessobahn, Meanas, Mockra, Omtose, Osseric, Rashan, Ruse, Spite, Tennes, Thryllan, Tiamatha

9 votes to lynch, 9 to go to night.

1 vote Galain: Rashan
1 vote Tennes: Tiamatha
1 vote Rashan: Spite
3 vote Thyrllan: Emurlahn, Mockra, Kessobahn
1 vote Mockra: Osseric
3 votes Kesso: Thryllan, Atrahal, Galain
1 vote Atrahal: Hood's Path



17 Players still alive,

Players not voting
Anomandaris, Gamelon,, Meanas, Omtose, Ruse, Tennes

[Ruse]

Hmm, well there seems to be a fair bit going on here. Much too-ing and fro-ing to be found. At least the avatars are less confusing!

There seems to be a lot of anxiety about low posting because of the last game. I'm not really sure if Day 1 is really a good indicator of how the rest will go. But putting pressure on low posters early is probably the only way to avoid any repeats, so as such, I'm all for it.

In spite of Spite's trigger happiness (hehe), I reckon they're inno, seems a bit OTT for scum.

I don't get Thyr's weird statement. At first I thought I'd missed the explanation for it, but reading back Thyr's just sort of ignoring it. Although I'm not completely convinced it's really a good reason for a lynch. But pehaps it's too much to hope that someone would get 'syllables' and 'characters' confused as well as not be able to count particularly well.

Kesso, that's probably just first day voting for you. And also conviniently the only other train that's building up aside from your own. Which I'm going to have to go and take another look at, I think, because I don't really get it.

So, as such I'm on the fence for the next couple of hours, hopefully there will be a bit more posting closer to the end of day.

Also, teletubbies? Really? Glad Tiam took one for the team there...

[Anomandaris]

morning folks, will read up now.

[Anomandaris]

well a lo of two and fro on day 1. Interesting that people say i was interacting with galain and rashan when someone voted for me and another voted for them and I hadnt nor did post since. Early cases are always hard to fathom, and day 1 when people havent really started make that more so.

The triple vote was very strange, people seem to forget that no matter if you are town or scum you should always try at least to look inno. Strange voting behaviour never looks like an inno tactic.

3 vote Thyrllan: Emurlahn, Mockra, Kessobahn

3 votes Kesso: Thryllan, Atrahal, Galain

1 vote Atrahal: Hood's Path

This voting also looks highly suspect given that three people are voting for kesso and both mockra and kesso come on to vote thyrllan while hp comes on and builds against atrahal with a case built on more than one player voting for another player within a certain time frame. Though i dont find thyrllan or kesso especially suspicious by their content the division of votes at what is generally a turning point phase of the day makes me think there is something in this.

vote kessobahn

The atrahal and thyrllan votes feel more like a way to counteract this train than an actual case built upon suspicious activity.

[Tiamatha]

I'm around, going to read through the thread before class.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 1, 6 hours and 20 minutes are left in the day.

17 players alive: Anomandaris, Atrahal, Emurlahn, Galain, Gamelon, Hood's Path, Kessobahn, Meanas, Mockra, Omtose, Osseric, Rashan, Ruse, Spite, Tennes, Thryllan, Tiamatha

9 votes to lynch, 9 to go to night.

1 vote Galain: Rashan
1 vote Tennes: Tiamatha
1 vote Rashan: Spite
3 vote Thyrllan: Emurlahn, Mockra, Kessobahn
1 vote Mockra: Osseric
4 votes Kesso: Thryllan, Atrahal, Galain, Anomandaris
1 vote Atrahal: Hood's Path



17 Players still alive,

Players not voting
Gamelon,, Meanas, Omtose, Ruse, Tennes

[Tiamatha]

Okay, I'll need more time but should be around most of today.


My feelings out of the two rising contenders tend to point towards Thyrllan. Firstly because of what I said earlier about his one liner comments yet multitude of quotes. I thought i'd read through a case or something important at the end but no, the comment was about Rashan's avatar.

Secondly, I don't want to get rid of someone who posts a lot so early in the game, i'd say we could keep our eyes on Kesso, be wary but get rid of Thyrllan. That being said I haven't looked thoroughly into the cases.

I have time to look through.

[Tennes]

yaaaawn...just woke up.

had a shit day yesterday to be honest and never had the time to take part...once i found out i was actually playing that is...


I still need to read the thread properly to have any kind of of input.... but not untill i have my coffee

[Path-Shaper]

I'll be gone for a while. Don't everybody commit seppuku. I'll be back about 2 hours before time out.

[Osseric]

What Emur said about Thyrllan posting here accidentally instead of in a private message to PS really makes sense to me - and as long as Thyrllan doesn't actually want to explain the comment (he has ignored at least two direct questions to that effect), that's what I'm going to believe.

But all that means is that I can assume Thyrllan is roled, rather than that he is definitely scum. I'll wait to see if there's a bit more discussion on this before I make my decision whether to switch my vote. In all honesty, I'm comfortable with it on Mockra, and to me the Kesso train came out of nowhere, which is suspicious in itself.


Edit: Changed an adverb to an adjective.

This post has been edited by Osseric: 29 November 2011 - 10:12 AM

[Tennes]

i just lost my entire post.... lots of quotes and all


fucking hell....why cant the fucking browser just remember my fucking post when i click back...WHYYYYY!!

[Tiamatha]

Tennes, on 29 November 2011 - 10:26 AM, said:

i just lost my entire post.... lots of quotes and all


fucking hell....why cant the fucking browser just remember my fucking post when i click back...WHYYYYY!!

It isn't good when that happens at all. Sometimes I copy it before I click reply just in case this happens ^

[Tiamatha]

Osseric, on 29 November 2011 - 10:12 AM, said:

What Emur said about Thyrllan posting here accidentally instead of in a private message to PS really makes sense to me - and as long as Thyrllan doesn't actually want to explain the comment (he has ignored at least two direct questions to that effect), that's what I'm going to believe.

But all that means is that I can assume Thyrllan is roled, rather than that he is definitely scum. I'll wait to see if there's a bit more discussion on this before I make my decision whether to switch my vote. In all honesty, I'm comfortable with it on Mockra, and to me the Kesso train came out of nowhere, which is suspicious in itself.


Edit: Changed an adverb to an adjective.

I don't have a read on Kesso at the moment, and I agree with you here Osseric, my vote on Tennes looks like it will be removed shortly as he is going to post something of worth. I'll wait to see what he has to say and then maybe put my vote somewhere else.



Why do you think Mockra is a good choice?

[Anomandaris]

i find it very hard to believe someone would accidently post in the thread a pm to pathshaper. Has that ever happened before that anyone can remember?

[Tennes]

okay...im just going to do it without the quotes.


I found while reading the thread that the spite tripple vote, while stupid and potentially giving scum a nice thing to discuss and hide in plain sight, was is not something i want to dwell on as the only arguments for and against it are WIFOM crap.

lots of fluff about avatars etc etc that make no sense now since the offending avatar has subsequently been changed....thanks for that...very confusing reading it now.

When i got to the point where i read Galains case on kessoh, well i found that to be a very decent day one case.
In fact its probably as about as decent as day one case as you will probably get with the limited info we have and I immediately copied it onto my clipboard for later reference.

imagine to my surprise when i read on and see that HP comes out immediately and blatantly defends kessoh, and starts making some ridiculous case about Galain and Atrahal colluding behind the scenes!
Not only is this case silly....as every lynch train has to have more than one person voting for a single person to get a lynch,
Its logic is also completely flawed.
Killers will not collude and draw attention to themselves by agreeing "behind the scenes" to effectively look like they are partnering up and working as a team.
If anything they will try and do the exact opposite and completely distance themselves from one another,

To insinuate that because they followed one another with votes on a player makes them killers working as a unit is pretty ludicrous if you think about it,
Yet here we have someone using it to try and rubbish a pretty decent day one assessment on a potential killer by claiming that two are more likely a killer pair working together than simply two people who see something scummy in the same person.

Its actually such a blatant case of symping i find myself struggling to believe it is actually symping.
At least HP didnt immediately vote for one of the two he pointed out as killer pair....he had to be subtle i suppose.
He waiting a full 30MINUTES before putting his vote on atrhal....like I said...sublte

Vote kessoh


While i find thyr slip interesting... what he said about his role does not make him definitely scum.

[Tennes]

sorry if i make less sense...but i am still waiting for my coffee to kick in....