[Kalse]

Karosis, on 13 September 2011 - 04:01 AM, said:

Huh, I don't remember that. Mind telling me where that happened?

where what happened?
where people jumped on my train, because i'm most likely to "somehow be connected to the FM"? that's like half the votes on my train. Alkend was the very first to jump on that.

[Karosis]

No, the way you worded it made me read that people were saying that the FMs could jump into town.

[Kalse]

Karosis, on 13 September 2011 - 04:37 AM, said:

No, the way you worded it made me read that people were saying that the FMs could jump into town.

no, I don't think anyone said that.

I'm just saying, a townie (who has nothing to fear from the FMs) is unlikely to make such a huge deal out of it.
Which is why I don't think Tellan is roled--he was the first to bring up the smiley thing, but didn't think about it in terms of FMs untill others brought it up.

[Alkend]

Tennes, on 13 September 2011 - 02:33 AM, said:

Atrahal, on 13 September 2011 - 02:28 AM, said:

Tennes, on 13 September 2011 - 02:23 AM, said:

That's your big theory?

My theory was about your "scum" slip, little one. The rest was added on to defend my position. Now go get daddy a beer. There you go, that's a good lad.

Maybe the sorrit case gave you the wrong impression but we usually try to make cases based on something stronger than their particular phrasing.

We have a town faction. At this stage the game resembles a town vs. scum situation more strongly than a faction game.

You know Tennes, you keep bringing up how we should be looking at cases, and making cases, and basing our decision on cases, yet you don't do anything but post and rip apart other people's posts. Yet here you are on the Kalse train. Not sure who said it, but you are definately resembling a lazy roled player.

[Silanah]

Atrahal, on 13 September 2011 - 12:03 AM, said:

Alright asshats, I am here and can finally get my head in the game. I read the whole thread and I cant tell filler from actual information. Lots of finger pointing, but no real meat to the "cases" Mainly because as was stated above many people (including myself to this point) have not had shit to say

I will agree with one person though, Thyrllan I believe said he is playing for himself. I think thats a smart move, however, I don't believe that we can just vote off people at random and hope for the best. I think if you are playing for yourself you have to keep your mind on the game, not looking for scum, per se, but looking for the FM's would be useful. Keeping an eye out for signalling, etc, might help us work out a team.

Keep in mind that its possible that after tonights lynch, several peoples game plans will change. I missed the vote last time, Im not sure if that helps me, or hurts me, because I may have different winning conditions than most of you. ANyway, thats my thoughts so far. I will hold off on voting for a little while, at least until A. a decent case is presented or B. I present a decent case. Back in a few.

remove vote

vote atrahal

this is more concrete than anything so far, this suggests you are not town and that is good enough for me,

[Alkend]

Wow, the last 2 pages have hurt my brain. A Grade-A bitchfest.

My thoughts. I don't see serc as being a roled player, but thats just my initial feeling after reading his posts. Nothing, concrete. He just doesn't act like he is roled to me.

Tennes likes to whine and does so frequently. It's already old.

From the K-posse, Korabas strikes me as a bit off, but hasn't posted enough for me to get a read on.

Kalse mentioned Tiam...i completely forgot that tiam was playing....

Anyway, I have to go to bed. I'll be back in 8-10 hrs or so.

I am standing by my Kalse vote.

[Alkend]

Silanah, on 13 September 2011 - 06:24 AM, said:

Atrahal, on 13 September 2011 - 12:03 AM, said:

Alright asshats, I am here and can finally get my head in the game. I read the whole thread and I cant tell filler from actual information. Lots of finger pointing, but no real meat to the "cases" Mainly because as was stated above many people (including myself to this point) have not had shit to say

I will agree with one person though, Thyrllan I believe said he is playing for himself. I think thats a smart move, however, I don't believe that we can just vote off people at random and hope for the best. I think if you are playing for yourself you have to keep your mind on the game, not looking for scum, per se, but looking for the FM's would be useful. Keeping an eye out for signalling, etc, might help us work out a team.

Keep in mind that its possible that after tonights lynch, several peoples game plans will change. I missed the vote last time, Im not sure if that helps me, or hurts me, because I may have different winning conditions than most of you. ANyway, thats my thoughts so far. I will hold off on voting for a little while, at least until A. a decent case is presented or B. I present a decent case. Back in a few.

remove vote

vote atrahal

this is more concrete than anything so far, this suggests you are not town and that is good enough for me,

I caught that as well. I initially though like you did... but as I thought about it, I think he means that if we lynch an Outfit, and since he wasn't on the Sorrit Train, he might well end up on another team than the people on that train. I would like to hear what he has to say though

[Alkend]

ok, really going to bed now. Won't be back in time for the lynch. gn

[Telas]

Silanah, on 13 September 2011 - 06:24 AM, said:

Atrahal, on 13 September 2011 - 12:03 AM, said:

Alright asshats, I am here and can finally get my head in the game. I read the whole thread and I cant tell filler from actual information. Lots of finger pointing, but no real meat to the "cases" Mainly because as was stated above many people (including myself to this point) have not had shit to say

I will agree with one person though, Thyrllan I believe said he is playing for himself. I think thats a smart move, however, I don't believe that we can just vote off people at random and hope for the best. I think if you are playing for yourself you have to keep your mind on the game, not looking for scum, per se, but looking for the FM's would be useful. Keeping an eye out for signalling, etc, might help us work out a team.

Keep in mind that its possible that after tonights lynch, several peoples game plans will change. I missed the vote last time, Im not sure if that helps me, or hurts me, because I may have different winning conditions than most of you. ANyway, thats my thoughts so far. I will hold off on voting for a little while, at least until A. a decent case is presented or B. I present a decent case. Back in a few.

remove vote

vote atrahal

this is more concrete than anything so far, this suggests you are not town and that is good enough for me,

I think here he is referring to the varying win conditions of town since he was not on the first train and how this could possibly effect the outcome of his winning conditions not that he has a different set from town as a whole, but that they may vary within town.

I'll be around for about an hour and try to catch up but after that I will be gone for a small while most likely, not sure about how much internet access I will have during the day.

[Shadow]

Here and catching up. Will do a dkt but from what i see now, the thread exploded into a sticky eruption of cases, posts and votes after I went home yesterday.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 2. 6 hours and 26 minutes remaining
18 Players still alive: Alkend, Anomandaris, Atrahal, Kalse, Karosis, Kessobahn, Korabas, Korbas, Korlat, Serc, Shadow, Silanah, Telas, Tellan, Tennes, Thyrllan, Tiamatha, Tulas Shorn

10 votes to lynch, 9 votes to go to night.

9 Votes for Kalse ( Alkend, Tellan, Karosis, Telas, Anomandaris, Serc, Tennes, Atrahal, Korbas)
1 Vote for Tennes ( Thyrllan )
1 Vote for Thyrllan ( Kessobahn)
1 Vote for Tiam (Kalse)
1 Vote for Atrahal (Silanah)

Players not voted: Korabas, Korlat, Shadow, Tiamatha, Tulas Shorn


-Obdi

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 13 September 2011 - 07:25 AM

[Korlat]

Alkend, on 12 September 2011 - 06:22 PM, said:

Actually, I don't want to be left out again.

vote Kalse

as he might be a rusty JA that jumped ship.

just catching up here....and spotted this.


Are you suggesting that JA jumped into another person as the FM?
Well....if i remember correctly, and im fairly sure im right...his name wont appear in the CF....its the person alt who he takes over thats name actually gets shown in the CF. Since he is the one who dies.
So JA is dead....period.

Now whether someone jumped into his alt is another story entirely.



carrying on....

[Korlat]

Alkend, on 12 September 2011 - 07:40 PM, said:

Tennes, on 12 September 2011 - 07:18 PM, said:

If people want to vote for weak, near random reasons, they can suit themselves. How you think that's going to give you a better chance of hitting who you want to I don't know but whatever.

Thats just it. The person I dont want to hit... is ME. You understand the concept that if you have no winning condition that you are playing for yourself, correct? Meaning I don't care if it takes me 4 lynch tries to hit outfit/fbi. Sucks to be the 3 innos we hit prior, but at this point in time I am playing for only 1 person. myself. At the point that I actually have a team, and have something to play for, I will play a more considerate game. But really, at this point in time, as long as the lynch isn't me, I am helping my current team. Myself. I would expect that the others who weren't on the train yesterday to have a similar feelings. But maybe I am just looking at this weird.

i feel this way too.

[Korlat]

Thyrllan, on 12 September 2011 - 08:14 PM, said:

Serc, on 12 September 2011 - 08:01 PM, said:

Tennes, on 12 September 2011 - 07:51 PM, said:

Thyrllan, on 12 September 2011 - 07:40 PM, said:

Tennes, on 12 September 2011 - 07:18 PM, said:

Like you say, I am on a train, and if nothing changes and I die I'll get my alignment anyhow.

If people want to vote for weak, near random reasons, they can suit themselves. How you think that's going to give you a better chance of hitting who you want to I don't know but whatever.

The only people who have a problem with hitting at random are roled players, because they can hit a teammate.
Townies, who where on the lynch last day have tendency who they want to hit, but it is still pretty open for them.
And for the townies who where not on the train it doesn't matter at all, the only thing is that they want ot hit roled players to get winning conditions.

So that's a lot of people for whom it doesn't really or only slightly matter who they hit.

But you seem to care, so maybe you are roled?

This is exactly the fucking idiotic idea I've been arguing against.

Town should care who they lynch. Those of us on the train want to maintain our advantage. Those off the train want to gain the same faction as those on the previous train, because they have a significantly better chance of victory that way.

There is the potential for a lot of death at night, and the more lynches we miss the more chance that people won't get aligned.

But since apparently "fuck you, got mine" is the correct way to play.

Vote Tennes

Let's lynch me.

I'm town, and when I die I'll get my alignment. I'm not going to vote on a crap train because I don't want to balance out my alignment by hitting the wrong team. People seem determined to vote randomly anyway, in which case it's going to come down to luck anyhow, and I'd rather trust lucky NAs to keep the outfit at an advantage than randomly lynch one of them so me being lynched is a nice day where you don't hit them for me.

If the town is going to insist on playing shoddily and lynch randomly it's down to luck anyhow.

As well as which, hitting me nicely reduces the chances of a bunch of you managing get aligned.

Voting for yourself does nothing. It doesn't prove any point beyond the fact that you enjoy being dramatic.

I get the sense that you're bluffing. But not enough to cast a vote.

Maybe I understood the OP wrong but don't you need at least two lynches of the same fraction to get aligned, so if you are town you would die without winning conditions and thus not able to win, except of course you are already aligned.

And you seem determind that a win by the outfit would be the best thing, but I think it is all still open.

Also voting for yourself to limit the chances for others to get winning contions, seems childish to me, really. And I'm not sure that you are RI.

one would think that a townie would know his own winning conditions.... no?

I might lay a vote down here but i want to catch up forst before i do.

carrying on....

[Silanah]

remove vote


vote kalse


this looks inevitable now and i want to be on the train so..

[Korlat]

Tellan, on 12 September 2011 - 09:14 PM, said:

First of all, Tennes. How smugly childish can you be! Self vote. WTF. Look, town has no alignment until we lynch from the same team twice. And even then, we each have to be on the relevant trains. So die tonight and you LOSE (which would be fitting for your temper-tantrum). See below for those with poor memories (or eyesight).

Path-Shaper, on 07 September 2011 - 03:11 PM, said:

Town



You are a member of the Town. The Outfit and the FBI are evenly matched so the ultimate decision on who is to run Chicago comes down to you. The first 2 of either side that you vote to lynch will determine your winning conditions. An example: If you vote and a FBI agent is lynched. Then you vote and a Outfit member is lynched. Then you vote and FBI agent is lynched. Then the winning conditions are with the Outfit. Vice versa if you vote off two outfit members. Then the winning conditions are for the FBI. In order for you to be on a side you must be on a train. If you are not on 2 or 3 successful trains all game. Then depending on who you voted for during the game will decide what your winning conditions are.


Reveals are not encouraged, however fake reveal are…

another one who doesnt seem to understand his own apparent winning conditions.
funny thing is this guy even highlighted the last sentance explaining that there is still some winning condition even if you dont get 2 or 3 successful trains.


wait?...was tennes not on any train day one?...maybe i am missing something.

[Path-Shaper]

18 Players still alive: Alkend, Anomandaris, Atrahal, Kalse, Karosis, Kessobahn, Korabas, Korbas, Korlat, Serc, Shadow, Silanah, Telas, Tellan, Tennes, Thyrllan, Tiamatha, Tulas Shorn

10 votes to lynch, 9 votes to go to night.

10 Votes for Kalse ( Alkend, Tellan, Karosis, Telas, Anomandaris, Serc, Tennes, Atrahal, Korbas, Silanah)
1 Vote for Tennes ( Thyrllan )
1 Vote for Thyrllan ( Kessobahn)
1 Vote for Tiam (Kalse)


Players not voted: Korabas, Korlat, Shadow, Tiamatha, Tulas Shorn


You and your boys didn't just roll a star market over in Malden for a box of quarters. No, you decided to bang it out on the North End at 9 o'clock in the morning with assault rifles. You fucking dummies shot a guard! Now you're like a half off sale at a Big & Tall - every cop is in line. Fortunately though, for you, this guard, who is two-thirds to a retard, has miraculously clung to life. Now, if it were up to me, and they gave me two minutes and a wet towel, I would personally asphyxiate this half-wit so we could string you up on a federal M1 and end this story with a bag on your head and a paralyzing agent running through your veins. This isn't fucking Tommy Hopscotch anymore. But I did wanna say one thing: You're here today so I can personally tell you that you are going to die in federal prison. And so are all your friends. No deal. No compromise. And when that day comes when you start trying to be my hero collaborator so hard that I have to slap you to shut up, and it will come. When your code of silence finally gives way to fear of trafficking in cigarettes to prevent sexual enslavement, I just want you to know that it's gonna be me who told you to go fuck yourself.
Kalse(Mentalist) was a member of the Outfit.

It is now Night 2. You have 12 hours.

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 13 September 2011 - 07:51 AM

[Korlat]

Path-Shaper, on 13 September 2011 - 12:24 AM, said:

Tennes, on 12 September 2011 - 08:20 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 07 September 2011 - 03:11 PM, said:

In order for you to be on a side you must be on a train. If you are not on 2 or 3 successful trains all game. Then depending on who you voted for during the game will decide what your winning conditions are.

It is locked in after two, but if you are on fewer than that and die you still get conditions.

Just to clarify - this is not the correct interpretation (Tellan had the right idea later on). If you die before you get any victory conditions, you lose - there is nothing awarded posthumously. If you survive to a certain point without being on enough lynch trains to get conditions that way, then we will assign you victory conditions based on the votes you have cast in the game up to that point.

And now, a vote count:

ok so tennes was not on a lynch train then...

[Karosis]

He almost had me convinced he was town.

[Korlat]

Atrahal, on 13 September 2011 - 12:03 AM, said:

Keep in mind that its possible that after tonights lynch, several peoples game plans will change. I missed the vote last time, Im not sure if that helps me, or hurts me, because I may have different winning conditions than most of you. ANyway, thats my thoughts so far. I will hold off on voting for a little while, at least until A. a decent case is presented or B. I present a decent case. Back in a few.

Say what now? O_o