[Shadow]

@Telas - Not sure how I can respond to your finger pointing here - you refer to lots of voting & switching of votes (exaggeration), and redirecting from quiet people (not entirely true), and poor content.

This is what I've had time to do. I haven't symped anybody, I haven't thrown wild accusations and smokescreens, and I haven't argued with anybody. I'm just a low poster. I realize that we've entered the phase of the game where the hunt is on for low posters, so suspect me if that helps. Just don't confuse me with lurking scum

[Karatallid]

Shadow, on 24 August 2011 - 02:12 PM, said:

@Telas - Not sure how I can respond to your finger pointing here - you refer to lots of voting & switching of votes (exaggeration), and redirecting from quiet people (not entirely true), and poor content.

This is what I've had time to do. I haven't symped anybody, I haven't thrown wild accusations and smokescreens, and I haven't argued with anybody. I'm just a low poster. I realize that we've entered the phase of the game where the hunt is on for low posters, so suspect me if that helps. Just don't confuse me with lurking scum

Erm...im not too sure about your response here.

Well firstly its the timing i suppose...but man, did you fly out of the stocks as soon as someone mentions that you are lurking/ low posting scum.

OK..Fair enough, we can't control our posting times and i'll over look that.

But here is what i dont get, you claim to not have thrown "wild accusations"?
Well, It's not exactly something scum are known to do, i would say the wild accusations are more the stuff of desperate inno's.

The fact that you havent "symped anyone" only means that its less likely that you are a symp....not a killer.
The same goes for your "throwing smoke screens" I dont see a killer blatantly doing that either.
And neither is it an indication of what i would think a killer would be doing?

I'm not impressed with your response.
"I I'm just a low poster...don't confuse me with lurking scum"
How are we supposed to try and tell the difference between the two if there are not much to judge on?

[D'riss]

Karatallid, on 24 August 2011 - 02:45 PM, said:

Shadow, on 24 August 2011 - 02:12 PM, said:

@Telas - Not sure how I can respond to your finger pointing here - you refer to lots of voting & switching of votes (exaggeration), and redirecting from quiet people (not entirely true), and poor content.

This is what I've had time to do. I haven't symped anybody, I haven't thrown wild accusations and smokescreens, and I haven't argued with anybody. I'm just a low poster. I realize that we've entered the phase of the game where the hunt is on for low posters, so suspect me if that helps. Just don't confuse me with lurking scum

Erm...im not too sure about your response here.

Well firstly its the timing i suppose...but man, did you fly out of the stocks as soon as someone mentions that you are lurking/ low posting scum.

OK..Fair enough, we can't control our posting times and i'll over look that.

But here is what i dont get, you claim to not have thrown "wild accusations"?
Well, It's not exactly something scum are known to do, i would say the wild accusations are more the stuff of desperate inno's.

The fact that you havent "symped anyone" only means that its less likely that you are a symp....not a killer.
The same goes for your "throwing smoke screens" I dont see a killer blatantly doing that either.
And neither is it an indication of what i would think a killer would be doing?

I'm not impressed with your response.
"I I'm just a low poster...don't confuse me with lurking scum"
How are we supposed to try and tell the difference between the two if there are not much to judge on?

Kara just said everything I was thinking as I came back on and saw this post by shadow. Not only do you pop on 2 minutes after Telas calls you out. (I don't believe in Malaz coincidences) But you basically throw a blanket statement that, in one fell swoop , defends your lack of content and availability. "I'm just a low poster." " Just don't confuse me with Lurking scum" You sound like caveman lawyer.

Low posting town is fine, if you back up your few posts with content. Your one line posts, and random votes aren't content. Your one post with substance happens in defense to a case against you. 2 minutes after the case pops on thread. Too much shit to let fly. I don't think you are a symp as you would be pushing a lot more.. that leaves either useless inno, or scum. The timing on your defense suggests you have been watching the thread but not participating. For now I am happy to

vote shadow

I will be around for a while. I also want to look at a few people Kalse fingered, as well as compare the 2 trains. I am not married to this vote, but I like where it is right now, and I certainly haven't forgotten about Korlat. He basically vanished after he started getting votes (well, 2 votes..so not that many). As of right now Shadow and Korlat are my top 2 suspects.

[D'riss]

Here is the first train. We had Korlat, Kalse, and Me waiting in the wings before Barghast came along to hammer. Thats a lot of people. All should be considered part of the train, and we are stupid if we think scum aren't on this train.

Path-Shaper, on 18 August 2011 - 09:13 PM, said:

It's day 1.

There's 35 minutes left of the day.


Players still alive: Barghast, Sorrit, Osseric, Anthras, Kalse, Karatallid, Silanah, Korlat, Thyrllan, Telas, Shadow, Galain, Fener, Emurlahn, D'riss, Tulas Shorn.

9 votes to lynch.
8 votes to go to night.

8 votes for Galain ( Thyrllan, Osseric, Karatallid, Telas, Anthras, Emurlahn, Kalse, Shadow)
1 vote for Osseric (Galain)
1 vote for Fener (Sorrit)
3 votes for Karatallid ( D'riss, Emurlahn)
1 vote for D'riss (Fener)

Players that have yet to vote: Barghast, Silanah, Tulas Shorn

Barghast, on 18 August 2011 - 09:17 PM, said:

Phew, good thing I happened to be to log in instead of passing out after what feels like a gazillion beer.

Vote Galain

Here is the day 2 train. Korlat had a premature hammer, I was able to be on to vote, though hadn't checked in at that point, and I believe there was one other able to vote ( can't remember who) .

Path-Shaper, on 23 August 2011 - 03:08 PM, said:

It is day 2
57 minutes left of the day.


14 players still alive: Barghast, Osseric, Anthras, Kalse, Karatallid, Silanah, Korlat, Thyrllan, Telas, Shadow, Fener, Emurlahn, D'riss, Tulas Shorn.

8 votes to lynch.
7 votes to go to night.

2 votes for D'riss ( Korlat, Tulas Shorn)
7 votes for Tulas Shorn (Kalse, Barghast, Osseric, Fener, Karatallid, Thyrllan, Anthras)
2 votes for Korlat (Emurlahn, D'riss)
1 vote for Fener (Telas)

Players that have yet to vote: Silanah, Shadow.

Korlat, on 23 August 2011 - 03:15 PM, said:

I don't see a reason Tulas has been on since he has had pressure he has had the chance to talk.


remove vote


Vote Tulas Shorn

8 votes for Galain ( Thyrllan, Osseric, Karatallid, Telas, Anthras, Emurlahn, Kalse, Shadow) BARGY (hammer) Korlat/Kalse/D'riss able to vote


7 votes for Tulas Shorn (Kalse, Barghast, Osseric, Fener, Karatallid, Thyrllan, Anthras) KORLAT (hammer) D'riss/??? able to vote


Who is on both: Osseric, Karatallid, Anthras, Barghast, Thyrllan

Who is on one: Korlat, Fener, Telas, Shadow

Who is on None: D'riss, Silanah

I might be biased but the Shadow vote on Galain seemed a bit off. He was prehammer, and had to leave, putting it on whoever was left to drop their vote in order to not have galain in "hammer time" status. He basically set up a drive-by hammer, which Barghast did.

Fener wasn't around much yesterday, or today for that matter. he definately went with the crowd on the Tulas vote. IF he was a symp, which I still think is possible, That would put Barghast on my hot seat for his master. Barghast, was the hammer on day 1, and since Kalse is dead, and I still believe Osseric is PI, Barghast is the only person that fener followed. (again, this is if you think Fener is a symp.) This leads me to be a little leery of Barghast.

Lets look at the other afflicted player, Thyrllan. On both trains. If we do the same thing to him that we did to Fener. (assume he is a symp) On day one he started the train on Galain who was inno, he self admittedly said that it was a joke vote. It then spiralled into a full blown train. Not much to learn there. But, on day 2 he follows Karatallid, and...Barghast. Thats very interesting to me.

Finally, the other person that stands out to me is Anthras. He had his blow-up on day 2 but has been pretty quiet since. He is middle/back on the Galain train, and pre-hammer on the TS train. Those are VERY safe places to be sitting and hide your votes with a "Well we need a lynch" vote.


Silanah hasn't even voted yet as far as I can tell. That screams bored inno to me. He has dropped on my list. Telas, has pointed so many fingers in so many places, and seems confused. He has dropped on my list as well.


So.......

People I am wary of/ top my list of possible KILLERS: Shadow, Barghast, Korlat ....Anthras ( not as high as the other 3.
People dropping on my list: Telas, Silanah D'riss (
People I really don't think are killers: Osseric, Thyr, Fener
Person I have no clue on: Karatallid. I am still a bit wary of him, as TS did come back inno and that fits with why I voted Kara on day 1... and he has been fairly early on both trains. ( giving the all clear for his symp/s to vote). But he hasn't played particularlly scummy to me, and the reason he did garner votes on day 1 was because of another player. I am sort of lost on Kara.

[Anthras]

Take a current look at the game.

Now, start thinking ::: Who the heck has been running this show so far. On whose whips we've been turning left and right, and on what grounds people have been pointing fingers and turning left and right. Perhaps after that, you will realize why you turn and lynch anything that looks like a distraction, anything that reeks as 'different' from the rest of us.
We've kept the distractions around, and now we're 5 inno's down -- and with a D-Day arriving tomorrow.
If it's pressure you're feeling right now, it's damn well earned.

I've spoken about Korlat and Shadow early on, in this game. And I also made it CRYSTAL clear who I would have rather voted, than TS in the second day. And when I ended voting for TS, I also gave a reason. D'riss, if you want to accuse me about the Galain vote on 'We need a lynch' grounds, that's fine - but if you want to do the same thing on the TS vote, then you better read my posts more carefully, because I've happened to state earlier who really stands out as my main suspects. And even when I ended voting for TS in the end, I also gave a reason on why I did it. Which is totally different from 'We need a lynch' if we so speak.

What's more aggravating though, is the attitude some have currently adapted with grounds of "You're either scum or a useless inno" , yet when some of my initial posts were based on the same principle albeit in a more straightforward manner, I became public enemy No 1.

[Fener]

VOTE KORLAT

[Fener]

[Fener]

[D'riss]

Who has taken the attitude of "You are scum or a useless inno" ? I accused only shadow of that because he has, in fact, done nothing to help us.

Wow, a very little bit of pressure and you come out guns-a-blazin.

In regards to your second paragraph, I haven't really noticed anyone running the show, other than a couple confrontations and talk surrounding Thyr and Fener. This game has seemed pretty calm in that regard. I haven't really noticed a ring leader.


So you would like to vote Korlat or Shadow? How come no vote?

EDIT: X-post with Fener. This post was aimed at Anthras.

This post has been edited by D'riss: 24 August 2011 - 07:33 PM

[D'riss]

Fener, on 24 August 2011 - 07:23 PM, said:

Interesting... are you saying you and Thyr are lovers? Or perhaps paired in some way?

[Thyrllan]

here is Thyrllan!

Yoda is not sure if Fener is referring to Thyrllan with the Yoda picture as someone referred to Thyrllan as Thyrllan. so if But, Fener would like to make it polished crystal clear that he is in no way linked to Thyrllan.

[Thyrllan]

saying is also becoming very confused as to why some of his fellow companions appear to be having trouble following what he is Thyrllan. sentences cannot compromise on his grammatical and eloquent excellence by resorting to ugly one-word Thyrllan. accomplices Thyrllan will endeavour to speak only in short sentences from now on in order to help his somewhat slower But.

[Thyrllan]

too commends what Karatallid and D'riss have said about Shadow Thyrllan. assessments found Thyrllan nodding wholeheartedly with their Thyrllan. symp suspects that Kalse's suspicions about Anthras being Thyrllan, Barghast one of and, mark or Silanah being killers is close to the Shadow. post is also very wary of Barghast's post regarding Thyrllan's Thyrllan. wifom was very complimentary but essentially said to ignore everything that Kalse said as Barghast.

departure is also disappointed with Emurlahn's Thyrllan. OK hopes that Lizra is Thyrllan.

[Karatallid]

its giving me a headache trying to figure out what he is saying ...


anyways...ive gone over shadows posts again (thanks Telas ) and i feel its worth a shot to apply more pressure.
I

Vote Shadow.

If anything he will come out of his shell.
Lets see what happens here.

[Karatallid]

aah bugger...lappie is running out of power.


ok lads...im off to bed...there is still lots of time right?

[D'riss]

UGH.... here is his last 3 deciphered. not it, for being the next to do this... lol

Thyrllan, on 24 August 2011 - 07:57 PM, said:

Thyrllan is Here!

Thyrllan is not sure if Fener is referring to Thyrllan with the Yoda picture as someone referred to Thyrllan as Yoda. But if So Thyrllan would like to make it polished crystal clear that he is in no way linked to Fener.

Thyrllan, on 24 August 2011 - 08:01 PM, said:

Thyrllan is also becoming very confused as to why some of his fellow companions appear to be having trouble following what he is Saying. Thyrllan cannot compromise on his grammatical and eloquent excellence by resorting to ugly one-word sentences. But, Thyrllan will endeavour to speak only in short sentences from now on in order to help his somewhat slower accomplices.

Thyrllan, on 24 August 2011 - 08:11 PM, said:

Thyrllan commends what Karatallid and D'riss have said about Shadow too. Thyrllan found Thyrllan nodding wholeheartedly with their assessments. Thyrllan suspects that Kalse's suspicions about Anthras being Symps, and one of Barghast, Shadow or Silanah being killers is close to the mark. Thyrllan is also very wary of Barghast's post regarding Thyrllan's post. Barghast was very complimentary but essentially said to ignore everything that Kalse said as wifom.

Thyrllan is also disappointed with Emurlahn's departure. Thyrllan hopes that Lizra is OK

[Korlat]

I am not a huge fan of the two crazy people right now.

Thryllan has contributed more, this is likely because he can contribute more compared to fener, but none the less. Missing the word i would attribute to an accident, but if it was a requirement of his role and there were no repercussions because he forgot it and that it was not corrected after the fact to reinforce the idea that it is part of the role has me concerned.

Fener has been silenced for 3 days now, so i have a hard time believing that its not a role. And if it's not a role his suggestion that someone did it is confusing and deceitful. I suppose it's possible that he received the instructions and attributed them to another player after the role seeing as thryllans, if he has them, are changing so i don't want to base it solely on that. And if it his role it is a rather frustrating one. Unless he can communicate off thread. He has been fairly aggressive with his pictures too. I don't know why he would want to draw the negative attention especially because if he irks someone it is rather difficult to defend himself. Which is probably the only reason why i would bye him as a symp rather than a killer. But i am definitely not gonna dismiss the possibility.

I feel like the fact that there are two roles makes them a bit safer, but just because one of them isn't scum doesn't mean the other one isn't. I don't like that d'riss has them both on his unlikely list.

[D'riss]

Path-Shaper, on 23 August 2011 - 10:52 PM, said:

It is now day 3

36 hours left of the day.

12 players still alive: Barghast, Osseric, Anthras, Karatallid, Silanah, Korlat, Thyrllan, Telas, Shadow, Fener, Emurlahn, D'riss.

7 votes to lynch.
6 votes to go to night.


Players that have yet to vote: Barghast, Osseric, Anthras, Karatallid, Silanah, Korlat, Thyrllan, Telas, Shadow, Fener, Emurlahn, D'riss.

looks like we have a little over 13 hours.

I will definately not be around for lynch, though I will be checking the thread for the next 5 hours or so.

[Thyrllan]

Korlat, on 24 August 2011 - 09:13 PM, said:

I am not a huge fan of the two crazy people right now.

Thryllan has contributed more, this is likely because he can contribute more compared to fener, but none the less. Missing the word i would attribute to an accident, but if it was a requirement of his role and there were no repercussions because he forgot it and that it was not corrected after the fact to reinforce the idea that it is part of the role has me concerned.

Fener has been silenced for 3 days now, so i have a hard time believing that its not a role. And if it's not a role his suggestion that someone did it is confusing and deceitful. I suppose it's possible that he received the instructions and attributed them to another player after the role seeing as thryllans, if he has them, are changing so i don't want to base it solely on that. And if it his role it is a rather frustrating one. Unless he can communicate off thread. He has been fairly aggressive with his pictures too. I don't know why he would want to draw the negative attention especially because if he irks someone it is rather difficult to defend himself. Which is probably the only reason why i would bye him as a symp rather than a killer. But i am definitely not gonna dismiss the possibility.

I feel like the fact that there are two roles makes them a bit safer, but just because one of them isn't scum doesn't mean the other one isn't. I don't like that d'riss has them both on his unlikely list.

do believes that D'riss was saying that Fener and Thyrllan do not strike him as strongly for the killer role as others Thyrllan, symps Thyrllan does not think that D'rss was dismissing either Fener or Thyrllan as potential but. anything if, Fener seemed to be quite wary of both Thyrllan and D'riss.

HA does not know why he is pointing out that someone else does actually find Thyrllan suspicious HA HA Thyrllan! lately Thyrllan has not been feeling too well But. affected hopes that his game has not been Thyrllan.

[D'riss]

Korlat, on 24 August 2011 - 09:13 PM, said:

I am not a huge fan of the two crazy people right now.

Thryllan has contributed more, this is likely because he can contribute more compared to fener, but none the less. Missing the word i would attribute to an accident, but if it was a requirement of his role and there were no repercussions because he forgot it and that it was not corrected after the fact to reinforce the idea that it is part of the role has me concerned.

Fener has been silenced for 3 days now, so i have a hard time believing that its not a role. And if it's not a role his suggestion that someone did it is confusing and deceitful. I suppose it's possible that he received the instructions and attributed them to another player after the role seeing as thryllans, if he has them, are changing so i don't want to base it solely on that. And if it his role it is a rather frustrating one. Unless he can communicate off thread. He has been fairly aggressive with his pictures too. I don't know why he would want to draw the negative attention especially because if he irks someone it is rather difficult to defend himself. Which is probably the only reason why i would bye him as a symp rather than a killer. But i am definitely not gonna dismiss the possibility.

I feel like the fact that there are two roles makes them a bit safer, but just because one of them isn't scum doesn't mean the other one isn't. I don't like that d'riss has them both on his unlikely list.

Good post Korlat-

It got lost in the shuffle that Fener accused someone of doing it to him, and that needs to be taken into account. You bring up a good point that it's possible that one is scum and the other isn't. If that were the case, I would lean more towards Fener as the scum side of things as he has been generally less helpful ( maybe due to how tough it is to post in pictures) than Thyr. Also, the fact that he has basically just pointed fingers, w/o giving any reasoning whatsoever. If this were true, and Fener was a symp, then it would clearly make my suspicions of you go down like a girl on prom night.

In regards to Thyr and Fener on my "unlikely" list...I only have them on my unlikely list as Killers, not as scum. I in fact have been operating under the assumption that 1 or both of them is scum to this point and is part of the reason why I suspect Barghast. That being said..it's just a list of this moment and is definately subject to change as circumstances do.

Pretty much the only person that I wouldn't vote right now ( with sound reasoning) is Osseric, who is, at worst, a symp.