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#521 User is offline   Osseric 

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Posted 24 August 2011 - 08:16 AM

I guarded Korlat. Not saying he is innocent but that is who I felt suspicious of the most. A kill still went through and as you said if there is a paired killer combo then my guard won't work until we get one of them. If I were to guess I'd say they could talk off thread too which means they may not speak much on thread and that is why it has been quiet. Silanah is one of those that is now getting to me. What has Silanah given us so far? Other than Silanah i'm not lost, we have two good lynch trains, and also the people who haven't been voting. Also assuming there are 4 scum left, WCS, we have a 1 in 3 chance of hitting scum today.

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Posted 24 August 2011 - 08:37 AM

Anthras was very vocal day one and beginning of day 2, but hasn't been since.

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Posted 24 August 2011 - 08:39 AM

From Kara's reactions on day 2 regarding his lynch train i'm still wary of him.

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Posted 24 August 2011 - 08:40 AM

View PostOsseric, on 24 August 2011 - 08:16 AM, said:

I guarded Korlat. Not saying he is innocent but that is who I felt suspicious of the most. A kill still went through and as you said if there is a paired killer combo then my guard won't work until we get one of them. If I were to guess I'd say they could talk off thread too which means they may not speak much on thread and that is why it has been quiet. Silanah is one of those that is now getting to me. What has Silanah given us so far? Other than Silanah i'm not lost, we have two good lynch trains, and also the people who haven't been voting. Also assuming there are 4 scum left, WCS, we have a 1 in 3 chance of hitting scum today.


Ehmurlan is another one....dont think we have heard from him for 3 days now.

Shadow...i forgot was playing till i went back to look at the last vote count and saw his name there.

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Posted 24 August 2011 - 08:42 AM

View PostOsseric, on 24 August 2011 - 08:37 AM, said:

Anthras was very vocal day one and beginning of day 2, but hasn't been since.






you know its only the beginning of day 3 right? :yes

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Posted 24 August 2011 - 08:44 AM

View PostOsseric, on 24 August 2011 - 08:39 AM, said:

From Kara's reactions on day 2 regarding his lynch train i'm still wary of him.


Really now?

Ok so i shouldnt get upset when i get framed and set up by some random vote and rubbish theory?

Each to his own I suppose ... :yes

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Posted 24 August 2011 - 08:47 AM

I still want to go back and have a look at the guys who pushed for Osserics lynch after he fully revealed.
I have been rather out of it on meds these last few days but im feeling a bit more up to it today.

I think i will go and do that when i have a chance, because i think i was onto something there.

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Posted 24 August 2011 - 08:58 AM

View PostKaratallid, on 24 August 2011 - 08:40 AM, said:

View PostOsseric, on 24 August 2011 - 08:16 AM, said:

I guarded Korlat. Not saying he is innocent but that is who I felt suspicious of the most. A kill still went through and as you said if there is a paired killer combo then my guard won't work until we get one of them. If I were to guess I'd say they could talk off thread too which means they may not speak much on thread and that is why it has been quiet. Silanah is one of those that is now getting to me. What has Silanah given us so far? Other than Silanah i'm not lost, we have two good lynch trains, and also the people who haven't been voting. Also assuming there are 4 scum left, WCS, we have a 1 in 3 chance of hitting scum today.


Ehmurlan is another one....dont think we have heard from him for 3 days now.

Shadow...i forgot was playing till i went back to look at the last vote count and saw his name there.


So far, Shadow has been very... quiet. Apart from their reaction to Osseric's reveal, that is. That one was rather odd.

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Posted 24 August 2011 - 09:00 AM

View PostKaratallid, on 24 August 2011 - 08:44 AM, said:

View PostOsseric, on 24 August 2011 - 08:39 AM, said:

From Kara's reactions on day 2 regarding his lynch train i'm still wary of him.


Really now?

Ok so i shouldnt get upset when i get framed and set up by some random vote and rubbish theory?

Each to his own I suppose ... :yes


Out of those you just mentioned i'd prefer a lynch on them over you, I said suspicious of you which i'm entitled to be, yet i'll just keep an eye out at the moment. It feels like it's been weeks, yet it has only been one week, and it is only day two.

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Posted 24 August 2011 - 09:35 AM

Hm, do any of you guys remember about-ish when (or ideally where) Emurlahn posted last?
Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
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Posted 24 August 2011 - 09:44 AM

View PostEmurlahn, on 21 August 2011 - 12:42 PM, said:

View PostKorlat, on 19 August 2011 - 08:19 PM, said:

View PostPath-Shaper, on 18 August 2011 - 09:13 PM, said:

It's day 1.

There's 35 minutes left of the day.


Players still alive: Barghast, Sorrit, Osseric, Anthras, Kalse, Karatallid, Silanah, Korlat, Thyrllan, Telas, Shadow, Galain, Fener, Emurlahn, D'riss, Tulas Shorn.

9 votes to lynch.
8 votes to go to night.

8 votes for Galain ( Thyrllan, Osseric, Karatallid, Telas, Anthras, Emurlahn, Kalse, Shadow)
1 vote for Osseric (Galain)
1 vote for Fener (Sorrit)
3 votes for Karatallid ( D'riss, Emurlahn)
1 vote for D'riss (Fener)

Players that have yet to vote: Barghast, Silanah, Tulas Shorn



Personally i think the galain lynch was pretty straight forward from about the 3-4 vote and as said before osseric and Kara's votes seemed more defensive. But after that point i think it would have been safe for scum to avoid the train so i would look more at those who were not on it for at least one of the scum. So me, driss, emurlahn, fener, silanah, and TS seeing as sorrit and galain are dead. So thats 6. For now i don't think fener is scum, or at the very least not important scum. And me and tulas were there to give our votes, i would count that in our favor at that point(obviously debatable but i am looking at the fact that one at least one would avoid a fairly visible lynch especially if they can communicate off thread) so i am left looking at driss, emurlahn, and silanah. Of those 3 emur and silanah have not been posting much either becuase they are busy or lurking, either of which doesnt provide much. Leaving driss.

And i am still waiting on fener to provide something. So i still like driss as a lynch just not as much as i did before i looked back and saw fener accusation of getting silenced. A little more from emur or silanah wouldn't hurt either.

edit-Grammar


I don't like what Korlat does here. First he dismisses all people who are on the train, then the people who are not on the train but there to vote along and then the low-posters to get a belated reason for his suspicious vote on D'riss. The problem is, that D'riss came back, too, to hammer if needed, so his justification is way off.


View PostKorlat, on 19 August 2011 - 08:21 PM, said:

Oh also Sorrit only made one post and it was a vote for fener.

Scum killed sorrit

Fener=scum

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edit-case closed



Who do you want to go for now? Following along Fener and vote for D'riss or go for Fener.

That, together with your for on D'riss in first place make you my favorite choice doe scum right now.

vote Korlat


Other things I found odd where Kara defending Thyr so much, when Thyr is well capable of defending himself.

And Telas saying that there would be most likely no scum among the more vocal poster. Everyone has his own style to play scum, some or more vocal others more coasting, so it is stupid to rule that out.

Also, Thyr, why would you be sacastic about your stance to a vote and or train? That doesn't help town when examining your post and I think Silahnas case is quite convincing.

So Thyr, TS and Telas are my second favorite for scum right now.





Posted 21 August 2011 - 01:42 PM

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Posted 24 August 2011 - 10:10 AM

Right. 43 hours is too much even without a warning.

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Osseric is the first to notice that the chandelier is in fact Emurlahn. It seems she must have hung herself sometime in past few days and not one of you noticed. You cold bastards.

Still, her hair lights up the room prettily when you set her on fire.

Emurlahn (Lizra) is dead. She was innocent

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 24 August 2011 - 10:11 AM

Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
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Posted 24 August 2011 - 10:14 AM

What is it with innocents low posting and not helping team town?

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Posted 24 August 2011 - 10:18 AM

View PostPath-Shaper, on 24 August 2011 - 10:10 AM, said:

Right. 43 hours is too much even without a warning.

*

Osseric is the first to notice that the chandelier is in fact Emurlahn. It seems she must have hung herself sometime in past few days and not one of you noticed. You cold bastards.

Still, her hair lights up the room prettily when you set her on fire.

Emurlahn (Lizra) is dead. She was innocent

:yes

Let's not forget that the forum hiccup with post deletion happened during the workday on monday... she's CET based and she might have posted then, which would have put her in the 36 hour bracket, which is about warning time. I know she was online this morning in her regular profile.

I hope she's OK, her last few messages all mentioned she was really tired.

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Posted 24 August 2011 - 11:03 AM

No, I counted from my re-opening of the thread following the forum hiccup. Her absence is counted from that point, not her last post in thread.

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Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
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Posted 24 August 2011 - 12:44 PM

Well....ugh...that sucks

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Posted 24 August 2011 - 01:20 PM

Ok...thats was a bit of slog to go back and find.
Shadow, Anthras and Telas are the only guys still alive that i could find that seemed to try and make osseric's reveal look less plausable.

Anthras was also trying at one point to go after Thyr an fener, wich i feel are soft targets for scum to go after.
Shadow seems to be hiding a bit. Laying low perhaps.
Telas so far seems pretty straight up to me.

Going to have to go have a look at Shadow and Anthras' games if i get a chance.

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Posted 24 August 2011 - 01:41 PM

i have a couple of posts that i'm going for here before heading to work. first the theories. so now we have a crapload of innos dead, and this started me thinking, you know i wouldn't put it past morgy to give us only one killer and several cult symps that CF as innos. this game has a lot of players and so far has been largely a wifom fest as evidenced by how many cult we have killed (for those who have lost count, 0 ). with fener and thyr's unusual handicaps, i think one cult killer hiding in the many townies would be par for the course of a mindfuck game.

so i think today, in addition to thyr's obvious switch in handicaps, we will probably see a third person with a handicap. but one thought along side that, why has thyr been changing in his handicaps while fener doesn't seem to have changed at all from day 1. and if handicaps accumulate (as it seemed with thyr on day two with Kruppe and "penguin"), why did thyr toss the penguin? i really think something fishy is going on with those two, and i think we need to look for consistency in their changes. i mean, while their handicaps are dangerous to them, they are also protective (really there have been no trains on either of them). and i don't like people who are protected for no solid reason....

all that being said. if we don't see a third person with weirdness today, i would hazard that fener or thyr is faking since one of them changes each day and the other does not, which seems inconsistent.

ok, on a different note, next post will be on shadow, the most suspicious of our quieter members.

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Posted 24 August 2011 - 01:57 PM

looking back through the entire game, i am once again shocked to see how little shadow says, not just in posts but about anything content oriented really. so day 1 and early day 2, here are representative samples of shadows post size and content levels:

View PostShadow, on 17 August 2011 - 06:57 PM, said:

I agree with TS on this, but will welcome clarification from P-S so we can not start hunting cultists & worrying about recruits



View PostShadow, on 18 August 2011 - 01:54 PM, said:

A couple of quick thoughts -

Telas has made either a nifty leap of case making or fabricated some stinky BS. I enjoy the exchange w/ him & Kalse, but it is all I can see for a page & a half, creating distraction.

Osseric - I was about to remove my non-serious vote from yesterday, but that whole reveal scenario sucks. He's created a mess already, and I'm not sure if I buy it, want confirmation, or want him gone for (fake?)revealing when its not needed.







View PostShadow, on 18 August 2011 - 03:47 PM, said:

It sounds like the level of alarm is easing back down a notch.

I will not deny the reveal for now.


Remove Vote


I think that leaves Karatallid as the leading candidate, but I'm not sure that I see any reason to lynch him right now. I'm going to look back and see if there are any cases that I agree with for now. Most of his heat was coming from others posts/actions, no?



View PostShadow, on 18 August 2011 - 03:48 PM, said:

View PostAnthras, on 18 August 2011 - 03:46 PM, said:

7 anons , few posts...

Hell a lot lurkers around here (tentacles aside)



How would it be if we played without Anon logins?



View PostShadow, on 18 August 2011 - 04:06 PM, said:

View PostSilanah, on 18 August 2011 - 03:53 PM, said:

View PostShadow, on 18 August 2011 - 03:47 PM, said:

It sounds like the level of alarm is easing back down a notch.

I will not deny the reveal for now.


Remove Vote


I think that leaves Karatallid as the leading candidate, but I'm not sure that I see any reason to lynch him right now. I'm going to look back and see if there are any cases that I agree with for now. Most of his heat was coming from others posts/actions, no?


This wording is really strange... what do you mean, "deny the reveal"?


Say "No way, I don't believe you, you're a liar, etc." Sorry if that was worded oddly.



View PostShadow, on 18 August 2011 - 08:05 PM, said:

View PostThyrllan, on 18 August 2011 - 07:56 PM, said:

BOOOOM!!!! IT IS THYRLLAN!!!


Thyrllan has witnessed that the votes on Galain are piling up. Excellent, it is as Thyrllan has foreseen. Soon the great evil darkness of Galain shall no longer stain our souls by his mere presence. Thyrllan predicts that Galain will show up very soon to plead for his life with pathetic excuses - "I was gone all day, I just left my computer on, that's why it seemed like I was lurking boo hoo hoo!" Or perhaps, "What? But there's not even a case on me, what are these votes actually based on?" As I said, utterly pathetic. But what more could we expect from the failure that is the realm of Darkness?



Are you really going to keep this up the whole game?



View PostShadow, on 18 August 2011 - 09:11 PM, said:

View PostThyrllan, on 18 August 2011 - 08:26 PM, said:

View PostShadow, on 18 August 2011 - 08:05 PM, said:

Are you really going to keep this up the whole game?


Thyrllan does not know of what Shadow speaks, but then Shadow is wont to babble many strange things, and Thyrllan looks on him kindly but pityingly, as an owner would their mentally-handicapped goldfish, for Shadow contains a smidgen of the glory that is the light of Thyrllan within himself.



I'll take that as a YES.



I'm not convinced this isn't a glorified low-poster hunt for Galain - Thyrllan goes on pure gut, Osseric is glad to vote anybody that's not him, Kara is in the same shape (although his case was a bit more developed) and so forth.

That being said, I can see the town moving and will lend my strength; I also saw Galain lurking nekkid several times but that is not offensive to me. Lack of participation can be distressing though

Vote Galain

I shall not be around at day's resolution, if one of you other gentlemen (or ladies) want to ensure full time for response, remove your own vote, for I must needs make some money now




View PostShadow, on 19 August 2011 - 01:46 PM, said:

View PostBarghast, on 19 August 2011 - 06:55 AM, said:

Based on Fener talking in pics again and Thyr, who also had a stange posting style, now having a tuxedo fetish, I guess this is a mechanic.
The speech impediments may be caused by us going completely gaga with the horror images of tentacly weirdness we see. If so, Thyrllan's third party references and Fener's picture posts on day 1 may be mod-enforced, and the additions of penguins could well be Thyr going more loony. If so, I quite dislike the mechanic and think it makes the game more than M&P, myself.

If not and this is players acting: it was (not so much) fun for a day, snap out of it.





I think I agree with this. Fener's situation may be a silencer-type effect, if there are day actions. it could also be part of his role. The same applies to the annoying Thyrllan. I hadn't thought about insnity yet, but it does fit. And it is especially appropriate for this Lovecraft setting. I expect we'll see it get worse progressively.

And yes, it reminds Shadow of the effusive verbal wisdom of the Mighty Kruppe


a couple of things of this selection to note: shadow does an awful lot of voting and switching of votes, but there is not much reason behind the votes, more just agreeing with 'this person' or going along with 'that train.' also, comments like -seems like things are calming down, so i'll remove my vote- and "that being said, i can see the town moving and will lend my strength" seem altogether passive and smooth. he isn't rocking the boat, not giving us much to go on, and just greasing the wheels of lynches that i get the impression he really couldn't care less.


View PostShadow, on 19 August 2011 - 04:09 PM, said:

View PostAnthras, on 19 August 2011 - 03:30 PM, said:

View PostShadow, on 19 August 2011 - 03:26 PM, said:

Flame war is distracting, fellows. Can we bring it down a peg?


Somebody mentioned my name, and I lost track. Let me go back so I can respond.




It's cold.
It's raining.

I'd rather have a flame going than forced to get closer than three feet to all of you.


Gasoline, man.
Fueling cars is it's secondary use.


You really know how to hurt a guy.


OK on re-read, I didn;t see anything to respond to, must have misread something



Although I agree w/ Thyrllan about the Galain train re: self-preservation, I don't want to discount Ossy & Kara from possible scummy lists.



this above post exemplifies what i think of shadow. didn't see anything to respond to, don't want to discount, i agree with this person. and that is par for the level of content usually provided.

View PostShadow, on 20 August 2011 - 12:01 PM, said:

@ Barghast - Very well, point taken re: flamewar. I know that it is a source of info, but at the time it was distracting and annoying. I doubt what I said made any difference anyway, but I should have taken it in stride.

I am going along with the high possibility of Fener's importance, but if that is true, we must weigh carefully his opinion of D'riss. TS made a good point about the fact that if Fener were to remove his vote, it would help to determine whether there is an issue of certainty or merely some gut/other reason at play.

I'm content to treat Osseric as PI for now, unless other info comes to light.

There's usually a trend to think scum is hiding in the most vocal and the most quiet, but a lot of time they turn up in the safe middle zone. Just putting that out there.



Redirection from looking at all the quiet people, which includes himself, especially now that all the other quiet folks have been eliminated one way or another...?


so right now, of the normal posters (not thyr or fener) my money is on shadow. however, i'm holding my vote, because i am even more agitated by this whole fener and thyr mystery, and fener still posts almost nothing of value (unlike thyr who almost posts too much), and FENER GETS AWAY WITH IT

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Posted 24 August 2011 - 01:59 PM

View PostBarghast, on 24 August 2011 - 08:58 AM, said:

View PostKaratallid, on 24 August 2011 - 08:40 AM, said:

View PostOsseric, on 24 August 2011 - 08:16 AM, said:

I guarded Korlat. Not saying he is innocent but that is who I felt suspicious of the most. A kill still went through and as you said if there is a paired killer combo then my guard won't work until we get one of them. If I were to guess I'd say they could talk off thread too which means they may not speak much on thread and that is why it has been quiet. Silanah is one of those that is now getting to me. What has Silanah given us so far? Other than Silanah i'm not lost, we have two good lynch trains, and also the people who haven't been voting. Also assuming there are 4 scum left, WCS, we have a 1 in 3 chance of hitting scum today.


Ehmurlan is another one....dont think we have heard from him for 3 days now.

Shadow...i forgot was playing till i went back to look at the last vote count and saw his name there.


So far, Shadow has been very... quiet. Apart from their reaction to Osseric's reveal, that is. That one was rather odd.



Not sure why it was odd, Bargy. I just said I wasn't going to swallow hook, line & sinker.

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