[Grief]

I'd be voting for Venge if ansible hadn't cleared him.

Ans, the info is actually fairly useful since I was starting to consider venge, so it's stopped that being a potential distraction.

So, we are left with, uncleared:

KM, Khell, Roldom and Shin.

How I feel:

Khell has been making sense for most of the game. Doesn't make him inno though, since it's a good place to be for MH in a game where MH is basically just wanting to hide. Vocal early on though, which is risky if scum.
Shin I gave my thoughts on yesterday. Bored inno is most likely imo. Otoh, I don't like lynch failure, because that can suggest symps.
Both KM and Roldom feel to me like they've not done much. I don't like KMs drive by night vote from a couple days back.

Are the finders planning on finding tonight? If either of you are, don't go for one of the more likely people.

[Khellendros]

I had a look through Kurt's posts. Early on he was of the opinion that finders shouldn't reveal - in fact, he had a bit of a debate with Roldom (who thought they should) about it. Talked quite a bit about scum numbers, and seems strongly convinced that there is no symp in the game, just MH himself and, I suppose, a successor who doesn't know it.

[ansible]

Grief, on 19 July 2011 - 07:38 PM, said:

I'd be voting for Venge if ansible hadn't cleared him.

Ans, the info is actually fairly useful since I was starting to consider venge, so it's stopped that being a potential distraction.

So, we are left with, uncleared:

KM, Khell, Roldom and Shin.

How I feel:

Khell has been making sense for most of the game. Doesn't make him inno though, since it's a good place to be for MH in a game where MH is basically just wanting to hide. Vocal early on though, which is risky if scum.
Shin I gave my thoughts on yesterday. Bored inno is most likely imo. Otoh, I don't like lynch failure, because that can suggest symps.
Both KM and Roldom feel to me like they've not done much. I don't like KMs drive by night vote from a couple days back.

Are the finders planning on finding tonight? If either of you are, don't go for one of the more likely people.

If things on-thread had started to flow towards a lynch of either you or Venge, I would have spoken up, but you're right in that we don't have to waste time on that distraction now.

I plan on not doing any finds until we lynch MH. Just isn't worth it. We've really eliminated a lot of possibilities so far so this is one of our best chances to get a lynch on MH, and an FK would wipe out all of our current info.

I agree that Khell has been making solid points so I'm not that suspicious of him. Clever play if he's MH, but seems more inno to me compared with unknowns like Roldom or Kurt.

[Khellendros]

Roldom: Though more posts than Kurt, actually even less to go on. One track here really: finders should reveal. That was what 70% of his posts were about. The other 30% was refusing to vote for twelve, even asking for a find to be done on twelve instead of having him lynched. Is that because twelve was Roldom's symp? Probably reading too much into it.

[Vengeance]

Khellendros, on 19 July 2011 - 06:48 PM, said:

A question though: Venge, if you suspect Roldom of being MH, why did you fake-clear him? I mean, what if ansible hadn't come forward, we would all be ignoring him for the lynch? It could have become pretty bad.

By fake clearing the person who I thought was most likely the MH, I would have gotten a very good read on his reaction to my reveal and his being cleared. I pressed for the anisble lynch because I wasnt certain if he would go ahead and counter reveal with out me putting extra pressure on him. I was willing to take the hit if ansible had gotten close to being lynched. Of course if he got close and still hadn't revealed as a finder then I might have let he go down thinking that I was wrong and that the finder was someone else. Luckily that didn't happen. There are times in games like this were someone needs to do something in order for the game to move forward. You lot are lucky that I am not scum and that I know what I am doing when it comes to fake reveals and counter fake reveals.

Also my sig and my Mafia card state pretty plainly what you shouldn't do and how I play. Not my fault that a lot of you can't read.

[Vengeance]

Sorry I should have done this earlier but was on my phone.

Remove vote

Vote Roldam

[ansible]

Yeah the fake reveal was pretty ballsy but it worked out well in the end. I also think it's time to lay down a vote.

Vote Roldom

[Grief]

Yeah, thanks for gracing us with your wisdom venge

There isn't much to go on with Roldom or KM. Not particularly bothered which is first, because even if we miss, they are people who would be easily jumped into later. I'd probably rather lynch KM, but it's mainly gut.

Again, lynching before they get back to defend is a bad idea.

[Khellendros]

My gut also says Kurt over Roldom, but I'm nowhere near 100% on it. Just to balance it out for now,

Vote Kurt Montandon

I agree we should see what they say before proceeding.

[ansible]

I should be around to watch so I don't mind letting my vote sit where it is.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 5. 23 hours and 28 minutes remaining
11 Players still alive: ansible, Grief, Gust Hubb, HiddenOne, Khellendros, Kurt Montandon, Mentalist, Roldom, Shinrei, Tattersail, Vengeance

6 votes to lynch, 6 votes to go to night.

2 Votes for Kurt Montandon ( Gust Hubb, Khellendros )
2 Votes for Roldom ( Vengeance, ansible )

Players not voted: Grief, HiddenOne, Kurt Montandon, Mentalist, Roldom, Shinrei, Tattersail

[HiddenOne]

I will be back before time out, but for now I'll leave a vote

Vote Kurt Montandon


He has been on my list from Day 1

I'm not devoted to this choice, so if things are still hanging around when I return, i could be persuaded to change my vote

[Kurt Montandon]

Well, I'm sure as hell not going to vote for myself ... I've never done it before, and I'm not going to start now.

Anyways,

Vote Roldom

It seems to be him or me.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 5. 23 hours and 1 minute remaining
11 Players still alive: ansible, Grief, Gust Hubb, HiddenOne, Khellendros, Kurt Montandon, Mentalist, Roldom, Shinrei, Tattersail, Vengeance

6 votes to lynch, 6 votes to go to night.

3 Votes for Roldom ( Vengeance, ansible, Kurt Montandon )
3 Votes for Kurt Montandon ( Gust Hubb, Khellendros, HiddenOne )

Players not voted: Grief, Mentalist, Roldom, Shinrei, Tattersail

[Tattersail_]

Vengeance, on 19 July 2011 - 05:21 PM, said:

Ok since I am tired of this I have decided to reveal my finds. Just remember that you lot brought this upon yourself.


Day 1 Mental - I looked at him because he is always my number 1 suspect

Day 2 Grief - Seemed like he was trying to slid by.

Day 3 Tatter - She revealed I wanted to make sure that she wasn't MH.

Day 4 Roldom - Now I started to choose people at random

Day 5 Khell - Same reason


Now I hate finder reveals more then anything else except for slow stupid games, which this has became. So there you are. Laters

i already did a find on venge last night and he is safe. I put it on him with a provisional on khell if venge got lynched

[Tattersail_]

Gust Hubb, on 19 July 2011 - 06:17 PM, said:

ansible is on the list because he isn't cleared by Tat or Venge, whereas ansible clears Venge as well as Venge claiming to be a finder.

i've cleared venge too. Shit.

Right I have a question for venge and ansible, what does PS say when you have done a find on someone? exact sentence please.

[Tattersail_]

Okay caught up and going to bed.

Vote Kurt

It was 50/50 out of those two. I originally put in kurt but he voted for roldom just because he was other option

night

[Tattersail_]

i'm not doing a find tonight

[Gust Hubb]

Ok, so we don't look like we'll have a find tonight, so we won't lose anything by voting for Roldom or KM and moving onto the next day. Can 2 people switch their vote to KM? We can just get it out of the way, and move onto Roldom tomorrow if it isn't KM.

[Gust Hubb]

We also have P-S around, so let's just get this done while we all are here.