[Khellendros]

twelve, on 20 July 2011 - 09:54 PM, said:

Sure better than me falling off my ugly elephant and hitting my head on a rock.

lol, some of us just have style.

[Tapper]

twelve, on 20 July 2011 - 09:54 PM, said:

Sure better than me falling off my ugly elephant and hitting my head on a rock.

Át the least you had an elephant.

[twelve]

Khellendros, on 20 July 2011 - 09:56 PM, said:

twelve, on 20 July 2011 - 09:54 PM, said:

Sure better than me falling off my ugly elephant and hitting my head on a rock.

lol, some of us just have style.

I had a nick name in grade school - graceful

And it wasn't a compliment.

[twelve]

Tapper, on 20 July 2011 - 09:59 PM, said:

twelve, on 20 July 2011 - 09:54 PM, said:

Sure better than me falling off my ugly elephant and hitting my head on a rock.

Át the least you had an elephant.

I'm dead. I left a will that stated whoever would care for my elephant then he would be theirs.

Congrats Tapper. You are now the proud owner of one UGLY elephant.

[twelve]

Also noticed that everyone is voting for night. Hmmmm, I wonder who suggested that move way back on day ?

Get off that high horse mister. Right now! Look where it got you with that elephant. Wasn't a pretty sight.

[Khellendros]

twelve, on 20 July 2011 - 10:05 PM, said:

Also noticed that everyone is voting for night. Hmmmm, I wonder who suggested that move way back on day ?

Get off that high horse mister. Right now! Look where it got you with that elephant. Wasn't a pretty sight.

You turned out to be correct...but only because the finders got very jammy and managed not to hit MH in that time. If they had hit MH early on, we'd have one less FK and a huge bunch of suspects owing to us not having lynched anyone. Even now it's risky, and once again it looks like the finders will be lucky.

[Khellendros]

My elephant was fairly handsome. Unfortunately, it was also so wide that I had to do the splits to be able to sit on it. Still, it was a handsome beast.

[Path-Shaper]

Tattersail, on 20 July 2011 - 09:27 PM, said:

Find Ansible

It is apparent that Meng Huo does not reside in ansible's camp

Tattersail, on 20 July 2011 - 09:38 PM, said:

Once it goes to night and you have found ansible would you then find people in this order if they vote for night again whilst i'm in bed?
Gust Hubb, Mentalist, Vengeance. I'm not saying they'll do three vote nights in a row but just in case

Sure thing.

Vengeance, on 20 July 2011 - 09:24 PM, said:

The trick is to not change how I have been posting or what I have been saying. I should still continue to play for town. Just not.


I think that I will probably get found out if not tomorrow night then the night after. But if I could get one more lynch before I was killed that would help immensely.

[Path-Shaper]

Khellendros, on 20 July 2011 - 08:39 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 20 July 2011 - 07:13 PM, said:

Vengeance, on 20 July 2011 - 07:07 PM, said:

Oh and I just Hammered Khell...

Welcome back buddy.

Haha, thanks Venge, I appreciate that the first thing you did with your new evil persona was to wipe me out of the game

In all honesty D'rek, the way you worded the OP was confusing. I think it should have been plainly stated that the first Meng Huo you refer to is a non-player character. I half-suspected that, but never voiced it in the thread because I knew I would get shot down. And, even though I believed for most of the game that there was only one person at a time we were meant to find, I was never entirely certain, and, if anything, your clarification message just made things even more confusing rather than clearing it up.

Having said that, town has to get the majority of the blame. We've played poorly from what was a fantastic position thanks to the finders being jammy with their finds and not hitting MH earlier on. I was banging my head in frustration when they switched from lynching Kurt: I mean, the guy was a target for ages, didn't come on thread or say anything at all to defend himself, and all of a sudden Grief starts gunning for me, and then Shinrei, and the rest follow like sheep. Highly frustrating.

Even when Grief started to realise that his arguments didn't make sense because of the way I'd voted in the past, it was too late. They'd made their minds up to lynch all three of us, and there was no way they were going to use a find on me like I suggested, because they've got it into their heads that FKs are solely to be used for endgame only, even if there is clearly something wrong with what they had believed. Well, guess what? It's endgame now. This is scum's to lose.

Very well played Kurt, and I loved the way you bowed out

And thanks for setting up the game, D'rek, sorry if that first bit sounded like I wasn't happy - I really enjoyed my game back.

Point taken on the OP. I didn't predict at all that it would generate so much confusion, and once that was going anything non-ambiguous I said would be non-partisan and helping the town a lot. In retrospect, I probably should have rephrased "the successor will become the new rebel and Meng Huo and will designate their own successor." into "the successor will become a rebel and Meng Huo. They will designate their own successor." so that there was no confusion from the double "and" being taken wrongly.

OTOH, this game was supposed to be hard for town in the first place, just like the other RotK Tales games, since the advantage the Town faction will gain for the last (next) full game is a HUGE benefit. But you'll have to wait and see about that...

Khellendros, on 20 July 2011 - 09:55 PM, said:

It looks like the finders might get lucky again. Tattersail has decided to make Venge his fourth find, and hopefully ansible will decide only to investigate those people that Tat didn't mention. If that happens and they keep voting for night, they'll be able to lynch Venge easily.

4th is pretty far down the line, though. Venge's best play, IMO, is to look as town-like as possible while they vote night a couple times, then when there's 2 or 3 candidates left, before he would get FK'd, try to suggest voting one of the other non-found based on the good odds and a compelling case that that person is scum.

[Path-Shaper]

Vengeance, on 20 July 2011 - 11:28 PM, said:

Change my Successors to

First

Grief

Second

Hidden One

Third

Mental

K, noted!

[Khellendros]

I think this works out: If Tattersail finds Gust Hubb, Mentalist, and then Vengeance, as he said, it means ansible only has HiddenOne to investigate, as he's already done a find on Grief. I suspect that this upcoming night Tat will find Gust and ansible will go for HO.

Will they then attempt a lynch? Their suspects will be down to just Mentalist and Vengeance already, so I'm sure they will after this night. Venge is not acting like he was previously, though it's subtle. He's posting more often now and is clearly more engaged, although his posts are all very innocent. Will town realise?

[Khellendros]

If I was Venge I wouldn't go for Grief as my successor. Venge is presumably choosing him because Grief can be a clever player, but ansible has investigated him twice already I believe, so clearly suspects that Grief will be scum at some point.

If I had to choose I'd go for HiddenOne, see if he can live up to his name

[Khellendros]

Ugh, never mind, ansible's just said he's going to investigate Vengeance Why didn't he just stick to Tat's planned list and go for the one person not on it? Never mind, at least it means there's no chance of a wrong lynch this round. Two down, four to go.


And Venge: See what happens when you kill me? You go straight after

[Path-Shaper]

Grief is now scum!

[Khellendros]

In this situation, I reckon I would suggest that only one finder does a find, as that gives them 2 in 3 chance of not hitting MH, rather than a 2 in 3 chance of killing MH if they both investigated. That would hopefully narrow it down to just two suspects, and then they can lynch off of that. They can still afford one more wrong lynch.

[Khellendros]

Haha, Ment's immediately fingered Grief! I like Ment's style of play - doesn't post much but when he does it's always useful.

[Path-Shaper]

Grief, on 21 July 2011 - 02:28 AM, said:

Was that copy-pasted? Surely Meng-Huo has been caught three times now?

Anyhow, my successors: Ment, HO, GH.

Ment has been under the radar recently though, so I'm probably gonna try push him on the basis of him being such a good choice.

I feel like I've been playing more against the OP than anyone in the game at times. For a game with mechanics that seem reasonably simple, I've sure been wrong a lot.

Yeah, 3 times so far, my bad, I was in a rush. Successors noted!

[Vengeance]

twelve, on 20 July 2011 - 10:01 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 20 July 2011 - 09:56 PM, said:

twelve, on 20 July 2011 - 09:54 PM, said:

Sure better than me falling off my ugly elephant and hitting my head on a rock.

lol, some of us just have style.

I had a nick name in grade school - graceful

And it wasn't a compliment.

That wasn't your nick name in grade school....

That rock you fell on was the best thing to happen to you all game.

[Vengeance]

Khellendros, on 21 July 2011 - 12:51 AM, said:

If I was Venge I wouldn't go for Grief as my successor. Venge is presumably choosing him because Grief can be a clever player, but ansible has investigated him twice already I believe, so clearly suspects that Grief will be scum at some point.

Of course Grief will be scum at some point. But Ansible has already investigated him twice and each time he came up clean. I think that the odds are on my side that he won't be investigated right away. If not that is fine as the finders will use up another FK. I didn't choose Mental because I wanted him at the end of the game. I didn't choose GH because he can be confused and can be used to chaos especially at the end of the game. HO is another one that will be good to have at the end of the game. Not that any of that is a knock on grief cause he is also great at the EOG. But my thoughts were with grief already being investigated the finders might find it a little less likely to choose him again.


Mental knows me to well. He figured that since I didn't choose him I choose grief. Bastard.

[Vengeance]

Kurt Montandon, on 20 July 2011 - 07:01 PM, said:

Venge just showed up - if he doesn't drop the fucking hammer on Khell as soon as he finishes a read-through, I'll scream.

No reason to worry. Dropping the Hammer is what I do.