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Mafia 78 - Rot3K Chapter 6: The End of the Three Kingdoms Game Thread

#1801 User is offline   Galain 

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Posted 14 October 2011 - 01:39 AM

View PostSilanah, on 13 October 2011 - 11:58 PM, said:



2 posts in 10 pages. Hm.

I'm done. Sorry for spam, but if you look, he was a reasonably high poster for a while, is definitely laying low now.



I'm not laying low, I'm busy. This is the first time in nearly 20 hours that I've had a chance to even log in.

Now I have a chance to do a re-read, and get caught up on everything since the Meanas/Mockra lynch.

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Posted 14 October 2011 - 01:40 AM

It's really surprising (not really, actually) that Galain hasn't posted. Probably waiting to see if he gets any more votes.

If you don't come around buddy, you're getting lynched. I got that kind of pull around here, yo.

Edit: HAHAHA HILARIOUS XPOST

This post has been edited by Silanah: 14 October 2011 - 01:41 AM


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Posted 14 October 2011 - 01:48 AM

So Galain... sup?

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Posted 14 October 2011 - 01:49 AM

View PostOkaros, on 14 October 2011 - 01:32 AM, said:


Yeah I guess that makes sense in regards to Silanah's play style. hah oh damn, I never noticed you had a case against me. I would have acknowledged it otherwise. When you put it that way I guess we can't tell for sure what someone's role is based on whether or not they mention the particular role. As you say, depending on who is interpreting the posts one could easily say the same for myself for completely opposite reasons. In of itself, it is a weak case to put against Galain, but something to think about.



Nah, I never finished up with it to post it. Like I said, got distracted by something. I think it must have been have Meanas' mental breakdown.

Hmm, Galain's back. Be interested to see what he has to say.

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Posted 14 October 2011 - 01:51 AM

At Okaros: Yeah, the way the the last couple of lynches look to have gone down, maybe it shouldn't have been too surprising that a few older cases just faded into the background. Though it certainly is worth exploring some of them further.

As for Emu lately (to address you and Sil both), he seems to start the day by tossing out a couple of names that have drawn heat or low posted and then waiting to see what sticks. Just my quick impression. Eg. his first post of today:

View PostEmurlahn, on 12 October 2011 - 11:30 PM, said:

well, that was interesting, albeit unexpected.


you'd think a vet like vengy would know holding the thread hostage is a poor idea.

sigh, well, talking about Barbs, it's Karosis or Galain, imho. or both.


Is the "view all post by xxxx" thing not working? Haven't played the last few games, and barely played one this so far, so humour me. That is really frustrating.

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Posted 14 October 2011 - 01:51 AM

Posts 25-35 for Atrahal. Not that During the beginning of these pages Atrahal was being mentioned along with a couple others about low posting, and coasting once more.


View PostAtrahal, on 10 October 2011 - 09:49 PM, said:

Ok So I'm thinking Meanas was the one who had the phoenix, and Mocra was the one he used it on, giving him control of the Alt.



View PostAtrahal, on 10 October 2011 - 09:51 PM, said:

View PostMockra, on 10 October 2011 - 09:50 PM, said:

I'm not, but I think I'll join in for giggles.

Vote Meanas


Is that legal? LOL



View PostAtrahal, on 10 October 2011 - 10:06 PM, said:

View PostPath-Shaper, on 04 October 2011 - 01:59 PM, said:

It is the midsummer's eve of 226 AD. By the Xia calendar, it is the 2nd reign year of Tai He ("Virtuous Growth"). By the Lu calendar, the 9th year of Huang Wu ("Prosperous Harmony"). By the Yan calendar, the 4th year of Jian Xing "Avenging Flame".

Despite the wars raging through town and city alike, the court and common folk alike take time to celebrate midsummer with festivities raging long into the night.
In one city, a prominent high minister is whispering to his sons before they head off to separate court officials' parties: "What we are about to begin may quickly spell our doom, but if we succeed our glory will rise to the heavens. Be cautious, but do not falter."

His eldest son, Shi, replies "Do not worry father, I shall be as discreet as a snake but as steadfast as the dragon."
His younger son, Zhao, added "But it is the phoenix that spurns us, rising from its own ashes just as we shall bring the return of the Han."

Sima Yi smiled. "The return of the Han? I suppose that is one way of phrasing it..."






Sima Yi, a high minister of one of the middle kingdoms, has begun searching for followers to his secret cause.



View PostPath-Shaper, on 04 October 2011 - 06:39 PM, said:

The Yan ruler, irate at being roused in the middle of the night, eyed the dishevelled and poorly dressed man accompanying his general disapprovingly. "And what, exactly, is this dirty peasant supposed to do for us, general?" "My lord, this is Guan Lu, the famed diviner of heaven's secrets and master of the stars. He sees events and people far away. He's already described for me the Lu emperor's castle defenses at Han Zhong!" Suspicious but intrigued, Huang Zhong asked Guan Lu to describe portentious events occuring in the world.

The mystic, who spoke only in riddles as mystics are wont to do, said to Zhong "A winged shadow descends upon a deserted village. Is it surprised?
In the ancient capital, a man swallows and chokes on a phoenix. He dies and is born anew, but perhaps there are some who can tell the difference. The oxen charge against the wall again and again but they cannot find the door handle."

Huang Zhong, unimpressed, dismissed his general and returned to bed.


Night 2 is ended. No one died.


So I think we have Zhao.

Not Sima Yi, but one of his sons. Still the lynch will hurt the Usurper and the rest of his followers.



View PostAtrahal, on 10 October 2011 - 10:08 PM, said:

View PostThyrllan, on 10 October 2011 - 10:03 PM, said:

While this is all highly amusing, I have a much hated meeting that I'm really not looking to get to. Behave while I'm gone, kids, see you in a couple of hours.


Hmm..... Talking to your sons perhaps?



View PostAtrahal, on 10 October 2011 - 10:11 PM, said:

View PostMockra, on 10 October 2011 - 10:09 PM, said:

Leave him alone, at least his silence has kept his alive. Anyway, he'll probably tell you it was RL getting in the way.


Hey, let me have my moment. They don't come often enough.




View PostAtrahal, on 11 October 2011 - 12:45 AM, said:

Thanks ST



View PostAtrahal, on 11 October 2011 - 09:46 PM, said:

And if on que, here I am. (It's my normal posting time) And I'm not sticking around. I will be back in three hours or so. A quick look see's five people with less posts than me, just saying.



View PostAtrahal, on 12 October 2011 - 02:09 AM, said:

With the heat turned (rightly so) to the low posters. Yes me too. I see Omtose reacting like he has been caught with his hand in the cookie jar. Trying to look like he has been an active player. That to me says he has something to hide.

I can't really change time to make me have more of it for making cases, but I may have a few unwanted days off this week (thur, Fri) If so, I will be on constant those days.

Yea I think my vote will go there for now

Vote Omtose

I will be here off and on for the next hr. I have homework to do but I will be refreshing the thread.



View PostAtrahal, on 12 October 2011 - 02:25 AM, said:

And now i will play you the song of my people on my hat....

damn it I cant insert the video

here is a clicky link.

My link



View PostAtrahal, on 12 October 2011 - 02:50 AM, said:

View PostOmtose, on 12 October 2011 - 02:36 AM, said:

View PostAtrahal, on 12 October 2011 - 02:09 AM, said:

With the heat turned (rightly so) to the low posters. Yes me too. I see Omtose reacting like he has been caught with his hand in the cookie jar. Trying to look like he has been an active player. That to me says he has something to hide.

I can't really change time to make me have more of it for making cases, but I may have a few unwanted days off this week (thur, Fri) If so, I will be on constant those days.

Yea I think my vote will go there for now

Vote Omtose

I will be here off and on for the next hr. I have homework to do but I will be refreshing the thread.


Yes you sir are absolutely correct with my 28 posts I am trying to look like a active player. Got me. Wow well done. If I had not decided to make a case on Karosis then you would have continued to ignore me. So how exactly am I being caught with my hand in a cookie jar. There is no reason for you to have to come to Karosis's defense unless you are now suddenly in the warlords camp. Everyone in this game has something to hide so please come up with something better then that.

How did I come to Karosis's defense by calling you on suddenly becoming active?




At this point Atrahal has started a back and forth with Omtose. Some mentioned Omtose was trying to signal Atrahal to lay off, but I'm not sure that idea gained any traction. Atrahal was also accused of being in the Lu faction by someone (can;t remember who dammit!), I encourage people to read over these and maybe share their opinion. Atrahal isn't around often, but around page 35 is where he really starts to take a somewhat active role in the game.

I should note that I omitted one of Atra's posts, due to lack of substance of any kind (gif of Nathan Fillion), as well as a couple during the Meanas/Mockra same-person-banter (it was just expressions of confusing and laughter).

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Posted 14 October 2011 - 01:56 AM

View PostKaschan, on 14 October 2011 - 01:51 AM, said:

At Okaros: Yeah, the way the the last couple of lynches look to have gone down, maybe it shouldn't have been too surprising that a few older cases just faded into the background. Though it certainly is worth exploring some of them further.

As for Emu lately (to address you and Sil both), he seems to start the day by tossing out a couple of names that have drawn heat or low posted and then waiting to see what sticks. Just my quick impression. Eg. his first post of today:

View PostEmurlahn, on 12 October 2011 - 11:30 PM, said:

well, that was interesting, albeit unexpected.


you'd think a vet like vengy would know holding the thread hostage is a poor idea.

sigh, well, talking about Barbs, it's Karosis or Galain, imho. or both.


Is the "view all post by xxxx" thing not working? Haven't played the last few games, and barely played one this so far, so humour me. That is really frustrating.


The way it seems so far it is not really helping form a case, but it is nice to have them all together just to have a faster look at someone's contributions. I find they work much better in town vs. scum games. I'm beginning to think that the vote trains will give more information, with regards to placing people into certain factions. But I also find this allows me to go over the threat in its entirety and seeing the context of cases which involve the player who's posts I am gathering.

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Posted 14 October 2011 - 01:57 AM

View PostSilanah, on 14 October 2011 - 01:48 AM, said:

So Galain... sup?



Starting to look back at what the case against me is supposed to be.

I'm also going through a couple of people who give off a vibe of ... "otherness," for lack of a better term. That seemed to work against Meanas, though the end-result wasn't what i expected, as I'd honestly expected a Warlord factioner.

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Posted 14 October 2011 - 01:59 AM

View PostSilanah, on 14 October 2011 - 01:37 AM, said:

My problem is finding something to cause the first glimmer of something strange.

I can when two people are fighting, but when someone points something out, I find it easier to go look at that person, that way.

You guys suck. I do my own thing, Emur just steals my goddamn ideas.



more like "I pick one of the ideas that OCD emur notices and then discards, pick it up, make it shiny, and call it my own case", ;)


not that i'm complaining.

meh, I tend to notice strange behaviours, and voice them as soon as I do. it's not the most coherent thing ever.

I'm glad there are others who ae more systematic.

as for you agreeing with me, I think we're the 2 people who are on at the same time most consistently. no wonder others perceive the game as our dialogue.

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Posted 14 October 2011 - 02:02 AM

View PostKaschan, on 14 October 2011 - 01:51 AM, said:

At Okaros: Yeah, the way the the last couple of lynches look to have gone down, maybe it shouldn't have been too surprising that a few older cases just faded into the background. Though it certainly is worth exploring some of them further.

As for Emu lately (to address you and Sil both), he seems to start the day by tossing out a couple of names that have drawn heat or low posted and then waiting to see what sticks. Just my quick impression. Eg. his first post of today:

View PostEmurlahn, on 12 October 2011 - 11:30 PM, said:

well, that was interesting, albeit unexpected.


you'd think a vet like vengy would know holding the thread hostage is a poor idea.

sigh, well, talking about Barbs, it's Karosis or Galain, imho. or both.


Is the "view all post by xxxx" thing not working? Haven't played the last few games, and barely played one this so far, so humour me. That is really frustrating.


yeah, that was a night post, btw. if you people expect me to name you a "lynch of the day" and give you a bow-tied case every day, too bad. I ain't Osseric or Sorritt.

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Posted 14 October 2011 - 02:05 AM

I'm still confused as to what exactly Meanas was. Some sort of official+ type of role?

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Posted 14 October 2011 - 02:05 AM

From 35 -40

View PostAtrahal, on 12 October 2011 - 06:45 PM, said:

I think we may be on to someone of importance with Omtose. Right after I start to poke him Kesso comes out with this.


View PostKessobahn, on 12 October 2011 - 10:46 AM, said:

We currently have Atrahal as a lynch target, and you are claiming Telas is a barbarian.

So do we lynch you to see if you could possibly be a finder, then lynch Telas if you are, or do we lynch Telas first? I'm trying to figure out the information revolving everything so I can decide what to do. I don't have any evidence to agree or deny your case beyond what you and Telas give us.



View PostKessobahn, on 12 October 2011 - 12:28 PM, said:

Well, I should be back before day times out, but for now I'm going to

Remove Vote
Vote Atrahal



Were did we have me as the lynch target today Kesso?
Looks more like you are symping Omtose to me.



View PostAtrahal, on 12 October 2011 - 09:09 PM, said:

Well I'm willing to see how this play's out.

remove vote

vote Karosis




View PostAtrahal, on 12 October 2011 - 09:27 PM, said:

Hmmmm.

Remove vote



View PostAtrahal, on 12 October 2011 - 09:36 PM, said:

View PostOmtose, on 12 October 2011 - 09:34 PM, said:

I am kind of around for a while so ask questions and I will try to answer them.


Spell it out night by night



View PostAtrahal, on 12 October 2011 - 09:58 PM, said:

View PostOmtose, on 12 October 2011 - 09:44 PM, said:

View PostAtrahal, on 12 October 2011 - 09:36 PM, said:

View PostOmtose, on 12 October 2011 - 09:34 PM, said:

I am kind of around for a while so ask questions and I will try to answer them.


Spell it out night by night


What spell out who I have tried to do finds on each night and what the results were or just the last two nights?I don't think you want me to reveal all of my finds ATRAHAL.


Go for it. If you know who I am.


As mentioned previously, there was suspicion of Omtose trying to get Atrahal off his case. And guess what? Atrahal actually switches focus, soon after to Karosis. He soon after removes his vote for Karosis, but there definitely seems to be something here. Omtose also claimed to know Atrahal's role. This could be Omtose trying to reinforce his claim that he was a finder, but we cannot be sure about that.

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Posted 14 October 2011 - 02:05 AM

View PostEmurlahn, on 14 October 2011 - 01:59 AM, said:


as for you agreeing with me, I think we're the 2 people who are on at the same time most consistently. no wonder others perceive the game as our dialogue.



Well, really, you've been heavily a driving force. This is why I don't think you're a Warlord factioner, because I'm very certain you're aligned with two other people.

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Posted 14 October 2011 - 02:06 AM

View PostOkaros, on 14 October 2011 - 01:56 AM, said:

View PostKaschan, on 14 October 2011 - 01:51 AM, said:

At Okaros: Yeah, the way the the last couple of lynches look to have gone down, maybe it shouldn't have been too surprising that a few older cases just faded into the background. Though it certainly is worth exploring some of them further.

As for Emu lately (to address you and Sil both), he seems to start the day by tossing out a couple of names that have drawn heat or low posted and then waiting to see what sticks. Just my quick impression. Eg. his first post of today:

View PostEmurlahn, on 12 October 2011 - 11:30 PM, said:

well, that was interesting, albeit unexpected.


you'd think a vet like vengy would know holding the thread hostage is a poor idea.

sigh, well, talking about Barbs, it's Karosis or Galain, imho. or both.


Is the "view all post by xxxx" thing not working? Haven't played the last few games, and barely played one this so far, so humour me. That is really frustrating.


The way it seems so far it is not really helping form a case, but it is nice to have them all together just to have a faster look at someone's contributions. I find they work much better in town vs. scum games. I'm beginning to think that the vote trains will give more information, with regards to placing people into certain factions. But I also find this allows me to go over the threat in its entirety and seeing the context of cases which involve the player who's posts I am gathering.


I think you misunderstood. The view all posts option doesn't work for me. I get a random selection of posts that includes less than half of them, and for some people I'm only seeing posts that are over a day old.

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Posted 14 October 2011 - 02:06 AM

View PostEmurlahn, on 14 October 2011 - 01:59 AM, said:

View PostSilanah, on 14 October 2011 - 01:37 AM, said:

My problem is finding something to cause the first glimmer of something strange.

I can when two people are fighting, but when someone points something out, I find it easier to go look at that person, that way.

You guys suck. I do my own thing, Emur just steals my goddamn ideas.



more like "I pick one of the ideas that OCD emur notices and then discards, pick it up, make it shiny, and call it my own case", ;)


not that i'm complaining.

meh, I tend to notice strange behaviours, and voice them as soon as I do. it's not the most coherent thing ever.

I'm glad there are others who ae more systematic.

as for you agreeing with me, I think we're the 2 people who are on at the same time most consistently. no wonder others perceive the game as our dialogue.


Good point about the similar posting times. It isn't something I tend to focus on, and I think that may very well be a weakness when it comes to spotting signals and such on thread.

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Posted 14 October 2011 - 02:08 AM

View PostKaschan, on 14 October 2011 - 02:06 AM, said:

View PostOkaros, on 14 October 2011 - 01:56 AM, said:

View PostKaschan, on 14 October 2011 - 01:51 AM, said:

At Okaros: Yeah, the way the the last couple of lynches look to have gone down, maybe it shouldn't have been too surprising that a few older cases just faded into the background. Though it certainly is worth exploring some of them further.

As for Emu lately (to address you and Sil both), he seems to start the day by tossing out a couple of names that have drawn heat or low posted and then waiting to see what sticks. Just my quick impression. Eg. his first post of today:

View PostEmurlahn, on 12 October 2011 - 11:30 PM, said:

well, that was interesting, albeit unexpected.


you'd think a vet like vengy would know holding the thread hostage is a poor idea.

sigh, well, talking about Barbs, it's Karosis or Galain, imho. or both.


Is the "view all post by xxxx" thing not working? Haven't played the last few games, and barely played one this so far, so humour me. That is really frustrating.


The way it seems so far it is not really helping form a case, but it is nice to have them all together just to have a faster look at someone's contributions. I find they work much better in town vs. scum games. I'm beginning to think that the vote trains will give more information, with regards to placing people into certain factions. But I also find this allows me to go over the threat in its entirety and seeing the context of cases which involve the player who's posts I am gathering.


I think you misunderstood. The view all posts option doesn't work for me. I get a random selection of posts that includes less than half of them, and for some people I'm only seeing posts that are over a day old.


I did misunderstand; thought you were referring to the post gathering that has been going on. My bad. Carry on...

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Posted 14 October 2011 - 02:08 AM

View PostEmurlahn, on 14 October 2011 - 02:02 AM, said:

View PostKaschan, on 14 October 2011 - 01:51 AM, said:

At Okaros: Yeah, the way the the last couple of lynches look to have gone down, maybe it shouldn't have been too surprising that a few older cases just faded into the background. Though it certainly is worth exploring some of them further.

As for Emu lately (to address you and Sil both), he seems to start the day by tossing out a couple of names that have drawn heat or low posted and then waiting to see what sticks. Just my quick impression. Eg. his first post of today:

View PostEmurlahn, on 12 October 2011 - 11:30 PM, said:

well, that was interesting, albeit unexpected.


you'd think a vet like vengy would know holding the thread hostage is a poor idea.

sigh, well, talking about Barbs, it's Karosis or Galain, imho. or both.


Is the "view all post by xxxx" thing not working? Haven't played the last few games, and barely played one this so far, so humour me. That is really frustrating.


yeah, that was a night post, btw. if you people expect me to name you a "lynch of the day" and give you a bow-tied case every day, too bad. I ain't Osseric or Sorritt.

You're right, that was still night. And I'm certainly not expecting anyone to tie a bow on anything.

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Posted 14 October 2011 - 02:15 AM

View PostThyrllan, on 14 October 2011 - 02:05 AM, said:

I'm still confused as to what exactly Meanas was. Some sort of official+ type of role?



Meanas was 1 person in two alts. We don't really know the powers, do we?

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Posted 14 October 2011 - 02:20 AM

;) Omtose, not Meanas.

Sorry, I'm falling asleep at the moment. I suppose there's no way of figuring it out, I was just wondering if there had been an assassin role in any previous games.

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Posted 14 October 2011 - 02:20 AM

Alright this is it for Atrahal. I did not include a couple of his monster quote posts, but they mostly had questions directed to HP about NA's and blocking mechanics.



View PostAtrahal, on 12 October 2011 - 10:49 PM, said:

I'm here.



View PostAtrahal, on 12 October 2011 - 10:51 PM, said:

I think he is full of it.

vote omtose



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View PostAtrahal, on 12 October 2011 - 10:49 PM, said:

I'm here.

vote omtose to supress free speech !


I did. He had plenty of time to out me.



View PostAtrahal, on 12 October 2011 - 11:04 PM, said:

Ok that was fucked up.



View PostAtrahal, on 12 October 2011 - 11:11 PM, said:

So I'm guessing he had no finds, maybe his night kills came back with who blocked them. But that's way to much of a stretch for me.


View PostAtrahal, on 13 October 2011 - 02:04 PM, said:

I'm here and will be for most of the day.



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View PostKarosis, on 13 October 2011 - 03:12 PM, said:

View PostHood, on 13 October 2011 - 03:09 PM, said:

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View PostHood, on 13 October 2011 - 03:03 PM, said:

View PostKarosis, on 13 October 2011 - 03:01 PM, said:

I havent moved..daaamn..still int he same place.

Dont know what the fuck HP has been smoking.


He was probably gaurded and doesnt understand how that works ;)



If I was guarded then how could I perform a block?


huh?


Gottcha on that one.


no...i just dont understand.

You say "nothing happened", then you claim "you performed a block"?
so wich is it?


Both.

I was given notice that I blocked an action, so my action was done on a successful target and I wasn't guarded. Yet my action didn't succeed. If we are in the same location, which you are claiming that you haven't moved since yesterday, then you couldn't have blocked my action. I received no resolution from my action. Explain that?


There is an explanation for this. Blocking is just the NA block. Blocking includes how NAs cancel eachother out, I would assume.


I'm thinking this is the case too.



View PostAtrahal, on 14 October 2011 - 12:57 AM, said:

Sorry homework took most of the day. Who's around and wants to talk?



View PostAtrahal, on 14 October 2011 - 01:04 AM, said:

Galain is getting a look to.



View PostAtrahal, on 14 October 2011 - 01:16 AM, said:

I'm thinking a Prime minister not sure why, more for his trying not to be obvious. I would try to play that roll that way, playing it kind of cool, not to confrontational. I'm not picking up what kingdom though.



View PostAtrahal, on 14 October 2011 - 01:36 AM, said:

I am a very busy person, that being said I was home all day and didn't get F all done.(game wise). And I will admit I am just a tad over my head in this game. It's very hard to follow with limited time, this many rules, this many people, factions, and roles.


page 41 convinced me that Atrahal probably wasn't working under Omtose. He calls Omtose's bluff, and it is revealed the Omt was an assassin. Omtose had time to reveal whatever it was he knew about Atrahal, but there was nothing forthcoming.

At the very least we can say that Atrahal was a low poster that, from the looks of it, was either overwhelmed in RL or was not willing to play much. It could be the latter, as he says that the rules and the complexity of the game are offputting (I think we can all relate to this entiment to some degree). Maybe some of you other folks spot something in these posts that I may have overlooked. Please share your thoughts. I'll be on for a little while. I wonder how much time we have left in the day.

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