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Mafia 75 Balck Company Mafia

#481 User is offline   Ampelas 

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Posted 30 June 2011 - 02:16 PM

Okay awake and catching up.

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Posted 30 June 2011 - 02:47 PM

View PostAnthras, on 30 June 2011 - 01:09 PM, said:

View PostBarghast, on 30 June 2011 - 01:05 PM, said:

Ok, from the Glen Cook Wiki:


Raker
A member of the Circle of Eighteen, one of the Rebel leaders in the war against the Lady; he is a tall, lean old man. His base of operations is in Forsberg, where he persistently outmaneuvers and defeats the Limper time and again. The Black Company is finally moved into the area, and Elmo and Silent manage to get a few of Raker's hairs during a patrol. One-Eye, Goblin and Soulcatcher use them to create a trap in nearby Roses, a table with treasure piled underneath and a stone on top with a space for Raker's head. The stone bears the inscription "LET HE WHO WOULD CLAIM THIS WEALTH SEAT THE HEAD OF THE CREATURE RAKER WITHIN THIS THRONE OF STONE ". The hairs enable the Company sorcerers to key the trap so only Raker's real head will release the enchantment. Raker becomes a hunted man, cast out of the Circle; he refuses to step down, making two vain attempts to destroy the trap. Eventually, discredited, he is tracked down in the snow by Raven and Croaker, who kill him.





While we should be wary of over-relying upon matching the books to the game ... I don't see how Raker being aligned with the Lady makes much sense.



Where are you getting that Raker is aligned with the Lady?

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Posted 30 June 2011 - 03:20 PM

View PostOmtose, on 30 June 2011 - 01:31 PM, said:

so was the feather, and yet pinky said feather was working for the dominator....


Perhaps he was recruited




View PostAnthras, on 30 June 2011 - 01:31 PM, said:

Not that it's entirely important ... but did anyone even else notice that Liosan is still in the game?



I haven't forgotten him. Maybe it is important.

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Posted 30 June 2011 - 03:21 PM

recruited on night one?

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Posted 30 June 2011 - 03:23 PM

Lio hasn't posted in almost 24 hours. What is his modkill timer at? He is also on my list of suspects for being a power player so I don't want to waste time lynching him if he goes and gets himself modkilled.

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Posted 30 June 2011 - 03:24 PM

View PostAnthras, on 30 June 2011 - 01:31 PM, said:

Not that it's entirely important ... but did anyone even else notice that Liosan is still in the game?


Not that its entirely important but did anyone notice that Anthras is an ass?

I am here when I can, and contribute as I have time to, I have (other than my first 3 posts) tried to add my 2 cents, and make meaningful posts. I realize my post count is low, but it should be judged on quality, not quantity. For instance, has Anthras who is second in posting, behind Korbas, contributed much at all, other than the occasional joke and possibly 4 serious comments?


But I'll let that be, as it could easily turn into a pissing contest and that helps no one.

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Posted 30 June 2011 - 03:26 PM

View PostOsseric, on 30 June 2011 - 01:44 PM, said:

View PostOmtose, on 30 June 2011 - 01:31 PM, said:

so was the feather, and yet pinky said feather was working for the dominator....


I, for one, don't think I have the relationships figured out between possible character's links to factions. CF of names dont mean a lot to me since I haven't read the books, and they seem to be confusing those people who have read the books. All that leaves is pinky's claims of faction name to go on.

Mockra was the only one without a name, right? My first thought was maybe that meant he was recruited, but I don't see why a character would lose their name just because they were recruited, so I'm guessing Mockra wasn't important.

@ Anthras - maybe he's the Dominator, and since he's still "asleep" he can only post a couple of times a day. ;)


I think the main characters with names are the ones with roles/powers, and Mockra was an example of RI



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View PostKorbas, on 30 June 2011 - 01:36 PM, said:

is the dominator is trying to get control using the rebels and i'm guessing the lady is trying to stop him with soulcatcher as her ally? or am i totally in the wrong frame of mind here?



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Are you suggesting that some seperate factions are allied?


Its possible there are some common goals between factions, which would be a type of alliance. It's impossible to guess what strange mechanics may be in play. Bookwise, for what it's worth, Soulcatcher worked for the Lady, but always had an eye on her own plans, maybe taking her place or similar. If I'm remembering this wrong, someone correct me.


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Posted 30 June 2011 - 03:26 PM

View PostKorbas, on 30 June 2011 - 08:08 AM, said:

Ruse was ansible and Raker, of the Rebel
Mockra was Mentalist and a female soldier of the Lady


WHy are you guys suggesting raker was in the lady fraction? Korbas said right there he is rebel and that seems to fit the story the best.

imho, the < female soldier > or < male rebel >, etc roles are RIs in their faction and the named ones are roled seems like a logical notion.

As for only 2 deaths last night - soulcatcher is a Taken and they are supposed to be big bads so maybe he had a kill power. With the 4 factions it would make sense to me that each one has a kill except the Dominator who recruits.

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Posted 30 June 2011 - 03:27 PM

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liosans back

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Posted 30 June 2011 - 03:28 PM

bah, xpost with Galain on similar points AND we look similar in avatar ;)

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Posted 30 June 2011 - 03:28 PM

View PostOmtose, on 30 June 2011 - 03:21 PM, said:

recruited on night one?


OK if that's not possible, maybe the manipulation & influence was pre-existing, we know the Dom. was involved in controlling the Rebel Council...it could affect things
/speculation

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Posted 30 June 2011 - 03:29 PM

View PostOmtose, on 30 June 2011 - 03:27 PM, said:

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liosans back



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Posted 30 June 2011 - 03:30 PM

View PostRashan, on 30 June 2011 - 03:28 PM, said:

bah, xpost with Galain on similar points AND we look similar in avatar ;)



Yes, but I have the lovely eyes of Mother Dark

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Posted 30 June 2011 - 03:30 PM

View PostGalain, on 30 June 2011 - 03:26 PM, said:

View PostOsseric, on 30 June 2011 - 01:45 PM, said:

View PostKorbas, on 30 June 2011 - 01:36 PM, said:

is the dominator is trying to get control using the rebels and i'm guessing the lady is trying to stop him with soulcatcher as her ally? or am i totally in the wrong frame of mind here?



added start for question edit



Are you suggesting that some seperate factions are allied?


Its possible there are some common goals between factions, which would be a type of alliance. It's impossible to guess what strange mechanics may be in play. Bookwise, for what it's worth, Soulcatcher worked for the Lady, but always had an eye on her own plans, maybe taking her place or similar. If I'm remembering this wrong, someone correct me.



Makes sense and its not an unheard of mafia mechanic: small fraction inside a bigger fraction and the leader of the smaller one can take over the big fraction if the big fraction leader dies (and possibly other conditions are met). I guess we dont need to worry about it much with soulcatcher dead though unless he had a lieutenant who could take over with the same ability to replace the big leader (the Lady in this case yes??)

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Posted 30 June 2011 - 03:31 PM

im not saying its not possible, but usually it goes kill then recruit doesnt it?

any chance we could get ability sequence?



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Posted 30 June 2011 - 03:33 PM

View PostRashan, on 30 June 2011 - 03:30 PM, said:

View PostGalain, on 30 June 2011 - 03:26 PM, said:

View PostOsseric, on 30 June 2011 - 01:45 PM, said:

View PostKorbas, on 30 June 2011 - 01:36 PM, said:

is the dominator is trying to get control using the rebels and i'm guessing the lady is trying to stop him with soulcatcher as her ally? or am i totally in the wrong frame of mind here?



added start for question edit



Are you suggesting that some seperate factions are allied?


Its possible there are some common goals between factions, which would be a type of alliance. It's impossible to guess what strange mechanics may be in play. Bookwise, for what it's worth, Soulcatcher worked for the Lady, but always had an eye on her own plans, maybe taking her place or similar. If I'm remembering this wrong, someone correct me.



Makes sense and its not an unheard of mafia mechanic: small fraction inside a bigger fraction and the leader of the smaller one can take over the big fraction if the big fraction leader dies (and possibly other conditions are met). I guess we dont need to worry about it much with soulcatcher dead though unless he had a lieutenant who could take over with the same ability to replace the big leader (the Lady in this case yes??)


but it wouldnt of been called soul catchers faction in the first CF from that team we got, if that was a subset of the ladys faction....would it?

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Posted 30 June 2011 - 03:33 PM

I havent read the books, but if One-Eye (I think it was mentioned he was BC) was a member of the Soul-Catchers, does that make Soulcatcher a good guy or a bad guy in the books?

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Posted 30 June 2011 - 03:35 PM

well soul catcher was one of the bad guys in the book apparently

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Posted 30 June 2011 - 03:41 PM

They're all bad guys just some are worse than others ;)

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Posted 30 June 2011 - 04:39 PM

im not a bad guy.....honest


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