[Mockra]

this is annoying. I still can't get into SH from my main account


oh well

[Mockra]

Path-Shaper, on 28 June 2011 - 12:43 PM, said:

Osseric, on 28 June 2011 - 12:27 PM, said:

Start Recruiting Process on Mockra

if lynched today,

Start Recruiting Process on Barghast.



I like Mockra's play so far, if he's not on my team, I want him to be. Barghast has been a non-presence, so he's the backup just for being a low-poster-possibly-laying-in-the-weeds.

I thought about going for Omtose right away, but something he said made me think he might be on my team already.

Noted.

I would prefer if you would just one conversation for your NAs and other comments. That makes it easier for me to keep track.

Liz

aww, they like me! they really, really like me!

[Mockra]

Path-Shaper, on 29 June 2011 - 07:23 PM, said:

Lizra, on 29 June 2011 - 06:47 PM, said:

Tapper, on 29 June 2011 - 05:09 PM, said:

Perhaps just to fuck with your minds, perhaps to make matters worse, perhaps to put in a word of caution, perhaps even to give a tiny, tiny tip: you do know that 'book' can also refer to a physical entity of pages surrounded by a cover, and that 'omnibus' is a kind of representation of such a thing, right? Cook is hard to find in Europe in anything other than collected volumes.

I don't have a collected volume and only read the first book. So the design is solely based on what I got out of the first book. Just saying.

Oops Oh well

- T.

i knew you was fucking with us, taps,

[Mockra]

Path-Shaper, on 30 June 2011 - 01:17 PM, said:

Anthras, on 30 June 2011 - 01:12 PM, said:

Spoiler entry:

Fuck, sorry Ment. I completely misread things. Then again, maybe Korbas is lying, or you were a recruit - something I have no interest in bringing up in thread. Also, Barghast still makes me think "Dominator," but going after him just makes me look like I'm symping and defending Korbas, rather than because I have legitimate reasons. And if I live through the day, I just don't think trying to Kill him would work, because if he's the Dominator, he'll probably have a BP or two.

- T.

when will these people learn that i'm never worth killing?

[Mockra]

notes on the setup

it was mostly fine, though I do think unnasmed Rebels should've been given something to work with.

as it stood, our best chance at getting anywhere was to get recruited, which is what I tried to do.
Oh, and i'm glad to see that I was right about the other 60% of the players knowing more than me. hehe

overall, this worked out decedntly, since starting tomorrow i'll be at work most of the time, and they'd ve lynched me for not being there or smth

[Mentalist]

tres weird.
apparently its only my laptop that's being stupid about this.

[Tapper]

I'm going to have to shut my pc down as I'll be moving to my new place tomorrow. If anything goes as planned, I'll be able to get online from home tomorrow afternoon/ evening again. however, we are talking administrative switches and telecom companies, so I fear I may go without web access (and tv!!! in a wimbledon final weekend!!) until at the least monday if they somehow failed to register the switch or something 'goes wrong'.

[Lizradusa]

Ok, I should be able to check the thread every now and then before and after work.

[Path-Shaper]

Ampelas, on 30 June 2011 - 07:34 PM, said:

Fuck it I'm using my Daykill. I did a reread and looked at HPs train. It is very obvious that HP was not on the Lady's team as he was gunning for the Lady with his vote for Eloth. Galains quick vote on HP leads me to believe that he is at least on the Lady's team but I'm more interested in narrowing down the list of suspects for the Dominator. Omtose put an early vote on HP as well. It could be he is on the Lady's team or he figured out that HP was most likely a Rebel gunning for the lady. In either case I want to know more about Omtose. Though the same could be said for Rashan as well. Who shall it be?

Omtose or Rashan?
Omtose or Rashan?
Omtose or Rashan?

Kill Omtose

[Roldom]

damn you ampelas!!!!! coin flip decision and he kills me (omtose)

great game, made me want to read the books lol

the no CFS is causing alot of trouble lol, plus its kinda given korbas a free ride...

by the way lizra i think you have me mistaken a few times with the alt pms, you said roldom does this or roldom does that when it wasnt me lol

[Mockra]

oh, my, if they lynch Croaker, they are in for such a mess....

[Dinivan]

I think they are in a mess, if they don't lynch him

[Path-Shaper]

Anthras, on 01 July 2011 - 03:45 AM, said:

Provisional:

Kill Barghast

I probably can't get him lynched, and I'm only about fifty percent certain he's the Dominator. But he's sure as hell not on my side. He might be the stalking goat for the Dominator, or even a Finder for that faction, which is why he's so dead set on Korbas. And Osseric is reluctant to vote for Korbas, so I figure there's maybe something behind that. If he is the Dominator, he's probably got multiple BPs, so I hope he's already taken a few hits.

If Barghast gets lynched:

Kill Liosan

It's down to either him or Galain as the Dominator if it's not Barghast. Liosan is very, very under the radar. Actually ... so is D'riss. It's also possible one of them is part of a leaderless faction, and has lost interest due to not possibly being able to win.

Noted.

Liz

[Path-Shaper]

Rashan, on 01 July 2011 - 05:13 AM, said:

And with that in mind...

tonight - Find Osseric (backup: Galain)

noted

Liz

[Path-Shaper]

Roldom, on 30 June 2011 - 09:14 PM, said:

by the way lizra i think you have me mistaken a few times with the alt pms, you said roldom does this or roldom does that when it wasnt me lol

oops. It's fixed now.

Liz

[Path-Shaper]

Path-Shaper, on 29 June 2011 - 07:25 AM, said:

Tellan, on 28 June 2011 - 09:41 PM, said:

Tellan, on 28 June 2011 - 09:33 PM, said:

... ops?

Hmpf.. I went for Eloth because he seemed to be signaling to Korbas (think it was korbas). I figured that it would be better to target him first so that if he was on my team I would know not to go for Korbas as he'd be a more important role on the same.

However, if Eloth did signal Korbas then the likeliest explanation is that Korbas is the Lady. Meaning I should have gone for the Lady right away. However, what if Korbas is another taken. Even less of my team around then I reckon.

Fuck it. There seems to be no way for me to aquire proper information anyway, so I can't really plan no matter.

Kill Korbas

Noted. Glad to see you still love me, Morghy

- T

Also, acquiring information can perhaps not be done by you, but can be done by others? Y'know, teamwork and all that?

Tellan, on 29 June 2011 - 08:39 PM, said:

Hmpf.. Korbas claims to be a cf. That's a weird role to have unless he's a power player. Or, if he was the lady or the dominator he would know which taken died and just assumed the two others were rebels, which makes sense in regards to how little info he provides for the others. Incidentally I would assume only the dominator would know whether someone were on the lady's or his own faction, but then that part of the info might be crap.

If so he's quite elegantly found a loop hole in the no reveal rule.

Alternatively he could be the white rose.

Tellan, on 29 June 2011 - 08:59 PM, said:

Incidentally, though I complain about my lack of info i suffer less than does the other factions I reckon. So better to keep the hit on Korbas and perhaps he'll turn out to be someone I want dead. He certainly isn't on my team (or at least he doesn't know).

Tellan, on 29 June 2011 - 09:11 PM, said:

hmpf, that last cf post of his provides too much information I feel. A more logical explanation now seems for him to be Cutter. So that's a theory out the window.

Kill Osseric if I live.

Tellan, on 30 June 2011 - 05:43 AM, said:

well that was fun for the little it lasted.

Mockra, on 29 June 2011 - 04:19 AM, said:

now, you know, i'm not the one to question the mods' decisions during the game (I reserve the right to bitch and moan about the design once the game is done)



but i can't for the life of me see how we are expected to play this without a CF. At least how the RIs such as myself are supposed to play this.



as such, i'll just sit tight, untill someone decided to recruit me, and make no waves whatsoever.

Path-Shaper, on 29 June 2011 - 08:00 AM, said:

Tis a bit of a novel thing and I admire Lizra's guts to implement it. Rest assured tho, there is a role for you to play

- T.

Mockra, on 29 June 2011 - 03:14 PM, said:

hmm, a Coroner role? interesting.



ofc, now if he dies, we're skewered.

Osseric, on 30 June 2011 - 06:10 AM, said:

PS, do I have to submit the action again? I assume I'm just keeping the recruit going on Mockra.

If not
continue converting Mockra



Sorry Tellan - I determined the writing was on the wall for you, and felt that being on yoru train was a better play than trying to disappear or defend you. Someone would have noticed I didn't come back.

Not to mention, I wouldn't be surprised if you weren't meant to be my ally in the end........it would be a cool twist on the merc setup, being told the identity of someone who isn't actually on your team. All the secrecy by PS seems to suggest it. Not to mention that CF "of the soulcatchers" sounds like you might already be against me. Couple that with the fact that the people I recruit learn of the Limper, not you, someone your character hates....

Osseric, on 30 June 2011 - 06:21 AM, said:

If I'm still alive on the morrow, I will probably submit an action on Rashan or Galain. Both are flying clear and pretty, and have good 'cruising' post counts. If I die - well this is for posterity.

Path-Shaper, on 30 June 2011 - 07:05 AM, said:

your recruit succeeds, but Mockra dies.

Osseric, on 30 June 2011 - 10:37 AM, said:

SONUVA

Osseric, on 30 June 2011 - 11:34 AM, said:

So...it seems like I was right - I knew Morgy but he wasn't actually on my side. Does that mean someone knows me, who isn't on my team.

Provisional

Recruit Galain

Osseric, on 30 June 2011 - 01:17 PM, said:

I've got nothing to really point me to the Dominator.
Gut and what minimal points I can glean from posting makes me think D'riss, Rashan are possibilities, maybe Ampelas, although I think there is a chance Amp is the Limper based on something he said.

I'm sure this is all laughably far from the mark, but I've humiliated myself in SH enough not to fear it anymore


P.S. Liosan...Maybe he's the Dominator and only allowed to post a minimum number of times a day

[Path-Shaper]

Omtose, on 29 June 2011 - 08:55 AM, said:

Korbas, on 29 June 2011 - 06:15 AM, said:

Hi i'm back. I was looking to give these last night but PS still hasn't got back to me. I hope it is okay to divulge this information.

HP was a rebel and Sorrit was also a Rebel.

Korabas was One Eye of the Soulcatchers

Eloth was Feather of the Dominator.

how does korbas know that?

i know that feather was eloth, so i can confirm that, but feather worked for the dominator, but im not on the dominators team? so how come i was given that information....

also i think the no CFS in a faction game is a little crazy....

Path-Shaper, on 30 June 2011 - 01:49 PM, said:

Omtose, on 30 June 2011 - 01:28 PM, said:

not only did i kill a fellow member of the rebellion i killed my own brother? admittedly i apparently cant stand him lol

Fate is cruel.

Omtose, on 30 June 2011 - 03:25 PM, said:

somthing about gailan just tingled my spidey sense and i might switch to him but im pretty much just pulling names out of the air right now

Liosan, on 29 June 2011 - 06:25 PM, said:

DAMMIT Tellan - get your ass on here and defend yourself. I can't do it, with Korbas spouting out all kinds of juicy info! I need a recruit, and I need one fast, only problem is, if Korbas is telling the truth, and feather is dead, the recrits won't know who I am and so I have very little to no protection. My biggest issue is, unless I keep myself and one other "recruit" alive until the end, The best I could hope for is a draw!

Here's hoping I gain a vig or some such thing, lol.

By the way, I am hiding to try and recruit as quietly as possible, luckily I fall in the middle of the low posters, so hopefully I am just helpful enough to keep from being targetted by some super power out there.

I need the WHITE ROSE DEAD!

Liosan, on 01 July 2011 - 04:12 AM, said:

I am taking a big gamble in assuming everyone got a pm with someone in their faction here, either it pays off big, and Korbas gets lynched, or I am toast. the good news is, Barg is taking some heat. Thus taking some off me. I NEED A FREAKING RECRUIT!!!

[Path-Shaper]

HD- twelve combo

D, on 28 June 2011 - 09:12 PM, said:

I got found by a Rebel, obviously. First night, Lol. Here's to me avoiding NAs!

You can still switch sides again. But, not we've got to kill the Lady and Dominator. So go-go-gadget mood swing!

Ampelas, on 28 June 2011 - 09:16 PM, said:

It's still better than a NK. As for all the other deaths night 1 I'm wondering if most of the kills were 1 time shots like mine?

So what do you think we should do now? Any thoughts as to who we should target? The way this game is going it will be over by this weekend easily.

Ampelas, on 28 June 2011 - 09:18 PM, said:

Also do you think other players have the ability to be recruited to other factions or do you think it's just you and me?

D, on 28 June 2011 - 09:19 PM, said:

Yeah, I think some grudges were being balanced. Like I said, in a faction game, loosey-goosey vigging is more acceptable. I think we got some of that last night.

So we have priority 1a and 1b now: Dominator and Lady in that order, I think. If we can identify one, you day kill smoke'em. The problem, obviously, comes in identifying them. And, with no CF at all, it makes looking at trains worthless because we have no idea who is who.

Ampelas, on 29 June 2011 - 02:10 PM, said:

Did you learn the identy of who brought you over to the rebel side? I'm sure it's safe to assume that whoever recruited us knows that we are on their side or at least they know that you are on their side. I'm an added bonus.

You probably lost your lynch proof protection from the Lady though right? Did you gain any other benefits?

Ampelas, on 29 June 2011 - 05:26 PM, said:

Okay I'm just talking out load here so to speak. With Pinky's revel HPs turning up Rebel basically confirms what I thought and that he wasn't a Lady's Man so most likely a Rebel.

Of those not voted on the HP train 3 are dead, one being HP and the other two suspected Lady members (at least I suspected Eloth to be and Korabas talk of BC made me think he was part of the Lady's faction) That leave 3 of the 4 low posters that I analysised. Tellan could be trying to avoid notice by not giving much of anything so should definatlely put pressure on him if just to keep attention away from D'riss and myself.

I think those on HP's train need to be looked at closely. I have pegged Galain as part of the Lady's group. Pinky could fall into either the Lady or Dominator group. Not sure yet.

Mockra and Barghast for some reason I have a gut feeling that they may be important but I can't put my finger on why.

Anthras, Omtose and Osseric I can't peg down but since they voted for someone that clearly wasn't a lady's man they need to be looked at (now that we've switched)

So Do you have any take as to who we should focus on? I definately think I should use my day kill soon if all the deaths last night are from people who can kill again. I don't like my odds of surviving another night.

D, on 29 June 2011 - 07:26 PM, said:

I still am difficult to lynch. Lady has to be on the train. That hasn't changed. And if that does happen you inform the entire thread the lady was on the train and day kill the person who strikes your fancy the most.

I don't know who found us, so no idea who else is rebel. Obviously some of the Circle are on the dominator's side, so I have no idea who is in charge of the Rebel.... maybe Whisper.

I'll take a look at some of those players, but if I'm power role I'm tempted to low-post or high post. Korbas is not Rebel, I'm pretty sure, so he could die, but he'll probably get killed tonight for outting his CF ability.

D, on 29 June 2011 - 08:02 PM, said:

Osseric is the only person, that I remember, who brought up automatically switching sides. I.e., not being recruited into changing sides. I.e., exactly what happened with us. Now, that could be because he is the Rebel leader who found us, or is the Lady or Dominator who will have possibly more winning conditions (i.e., me dead).

Let's keep an eye on that player for any other hints.

Ampelas, on 29 June 2011 - 09:09 PM, said:

Well Ruse falls into the low poster category with good quality posts. Maybe he is the Lady or the Dominator?

At some point I'm going to try to take a look back at some of the posts made by Mockra and Barghast to see what is making those two stand out for me?

Damn month end close prep. I knew I should have held off on a game or two before I signed up again. I think I'm playing okay but I am concerned that you and I will be pegged as possible rebels for not being on HPs lynch train so we might be targeted for possible night action tonight. That is why I'm thinking of getting a shot off while I still can. What do you think?

[Path-Shaper]

D, on 29 June 2011 - 09:45 PM, said:

Who do you want to kill?

Ampelas, on 29 June 2011 - 11:41 PM, said:

Mockra, Barghast Ruse or Omtose. They all seem to be enigmas to me at the moment. I gotta run. I'll be back before day times out to place my vote. I would be fine voting out either Anthras or Tellan at this point.

D, on 30 June 2011 - 02:32 AM, said:

I'm voting Tellan to do hopefully 2 things:

1. Forestall any lynch, as I think rebel started with lots of RIs and they'd be the most likely to not give a shit and not play.
2. Hopefully signal part of Black Company alliance, which was technically true, but no longer the case.

Ampelas, on 30 June 2011 - 02:58 AM, said:

Do you want me to vote Tellan as well again?

D, on 30 June 2011 - 03:02 AM, said:

Probably best to keep our votes separate. If it looks like it is swinging one way or the other, join in on that train. I wouldn't mind losing either player, actually as I think neither are on our team. But, because I think our team's strength was originally numbers... it makes me hesitate. I needed to vote because I'd had my mouth behind that for a while and needed to back it up.

Ampelas, on 30 June 2011 - 03:17 PM, said:

My current take on players

Galain & Barghast are in either the Soulcatcher faction or the Lady's
I think I'm with you on the Osseric being a rebel faction
Korbas is either Rebel or Lady's Faction. He is obsessed with finding the Dominator
You and Me make 6 of the 10 players

So the Dominator is either Omtose, Liosan, Anthras or Rashan

Ampelas, on 30 June 2011 - 03:53 PM, said:

Should I call those players out as possible Dominator's. I would be putting my neck on the line but I think you are more important to our team that I am. At least until after I use my kill.

D, on 30 June 2011 - 06:09 PM, said:

Don't call them out, that'll just get you lynched, probably. They'll want your info. Maybe put a day kill on one of them to eliminate the options before doing so.

Ampelas, on 30 June 2011 - 07:36 PM, said:

I put a kill in on Omtose. I'm waiting for the scene and possibly Korbas info as well. I'm wondering if we kill Pinky if PS will provide the CF info for us going forward.

Ampelas, on 30 June 2011 - 08:30 PM, said:

Damn. It seems like Omtose may have been a rebel member. Nothing like what I was expecting.

Ampelas, on 30 June 2011 - 10:19 PM, said:

Damn!!! Damn!!! Damn!!! Damn!!! Damn!!! Damn!!! Damn!!! Damn!!! Damn!!! Damn!!! Damn!!! Damn!!! Damn!!!

Why didn't I chose Rashan!!!!!! Or Liosan or Anthras for that matter

Sorry Roldom you were in my circle of players who I thought was the Dominator so I took a chance.

Ampelas, on 01 July 2011 - 12:17 AM, said:

I just had a thought. Have you been recruited again? If so I can see Osseric being a possible powerplayer who has recruited you and you are trying to keep my attention away from him. I thought that his following your vote on Tellan was him signaling that he is on our side. Now I'm not so sure.

Oh mafia paranoia. Gotta love it.

D, on 01 July 2011 - 05:00 AM, said:

Briefly - Galain, Korbas, and Liosan, or maybe it's Anthras. Those red avatars get confusing. I think all on the same squad, namely originally not rebel. Korbas is Croaker, I'm nearly positive of it. That makes him Black Company, possibly having been recruited after last night, but who wants to recruit somebody likely to draw a NK? So, he might actually still be alone.

Bargast is NOT on that team. He is either rebel or Dominator. Balls to the wall if the latter, so I'm guessing rebel, if he hasn't been recruited.

Leaving Rashan and???? Who else is still alive? Osseric... who I think was maybe Rebel, but I had nominated as a possible big bad.

So: Galain, Korbas (Liosan or Anthras?)
Ampelas, D'riss, (Osseric or Barghast?)
Rashan (Bargast?)

So, I think that's my quick break down as of now. I've got Rashan as a big bad, most likely Dominator, Osseric as a possible big bad but possibly Whisper of the Rebel, and Liosan and perhaps Anthras as the Lady.

So, if we have an opportunity, we vote off Rashan, Liosan, or Anthras.

Ampelas, on 01 July 2011 - 05:44 AM, said:

Well considering those are my three that I have pegged as the Dominator I'm a okay with that list of targets as well.

[Path-Shaper]

Anthras, on 30 June 2011 - 01:12 PM, said:

Spoiler entry:

Fuck, sorry Ment. I completely misread things. Then again, maybe Korbas is lying, or you were a recruit - something I have no interest in bringing up in thread. Also, Barghast still makes me think "Dominator," but going after him just makes me look like I'm symping and defending Korbas, rather than because I have legitimate reasons. And if I live through the day, I just don't think trying to Kill him would work, because if he's the Dominator, he'll probably have a BP or two.

Anthras, on 01 July 2011 - 03:46 AM, said:

I'd also point out that I'm not making things up in thread - that Day Kill followed by an enthusiastic Barghast literally minutes later was fucking suspicious as hell. Which actually makes me doubtful - who would be so obvious?

Someone bored or relatively new, maybe.

Rashan, on 29 June 2011 - 11:18 PM, said:

Oh geez I want to slap a lot of the people speculating on thread. Why on earth would the recruiting/alignments have to follow the order of the books?! It makes perfect sense that if in the books the Dominator had recruited about half of the Taken and many of the Circle, that in this mafia game they wouldn't necessarily be the *same* Taken/Circle.

And people are surprised by Korbas reveal - knowing the importance of the Annals in TBC and seeing there was no CFs, it was pretty obvious right away that Croaker would be an active CF role, especially given how the end-of-day/night scenes are written like excerpts of the Annals.

Oh well, everyone can keep being wrong all they like, should be good for me. Personally, I'd be surprised if there even is an outright BC faction - with the way they go around they should be a tradeable commodity and able to work for just about whomever. Though maybe they privately need to try and survive as a Company as an objective beyond just completing the objectives of their employer.

OTOH, I'm being accused of low-posting (valid), so maybe I'll use this to seem more useful, then.

Rashan, on 01 July 2011 - 05:12 AM, said:

Well, I sure hope finding D'riss brought the black company guys over to the rebel side (directly or indirectly I'm not picky), or we are seriously losing. I'm guessing other than Korbas/Croaker there's one or two more black company guys (I'd guess Anthras and Amp at this point, with roles maybe Silent, Goblin or Raven). I doubt there's any original rebels left other than me, unless we've somehow gained from the start (like if the "soldier" roles can change sides). Based on the importance of the Circle members, it'd make sense to have Journey in there, though.

Empire looks like it's going strong, since we've only seen one soldier from it. I'd guess at least the Lady and two other roles in there, probably Galain or Osseric as the Lady and Lio and Barg as other roles (Limper and some other Taken would seem likeliest).

And lastly the Dominator, who has probably stolen one of the above roles to his side and killing alternate nights or something like that. Guessing he's Galain or Osseric, whichever is not the Lady.