[D'riss]

Ok I'm back, let me read up.

[D'riss]

Tiamatha, on 15 June 2011 - 12:01 AM, said:

ok, so some general observations (obvious crap first) and then more specific

fist, i'd say that we can label merrid as the trumpet's healer, probably the only one for that team
second, i would agree that ruse proly was a symp-like roll
third, i'm actually not sure what to do with hp, RI? or was he a guard of some sort cause of the gun?

No clues in scenes. L2Mafa.

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of fener and eloth, i think fener is potenitally lower on the totem pole. bluster risks the ire of other players and encourages a sooner lynch (if not the first day, then a later day). unfortunately, if he is just bulk for someone's team, he's doing them a disservice

Are you parroting what I said yesterday? Seems like you are!

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eloth, on the other hand, pings my radar. i'm not necessarily ready to give him the title of cult, but i must say that he was baiting fener something fierce. seems like either a distraction technique or even a way to bolster his own leader positoin

I'm not sure I would go all the way to cult status, but fener certainly wasn't stomping around on his own.

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and while we are on the whole fiasco of yesterday, i noticed that alkend was extremely good at whipping up action (posts 52, 67, 114) , but actually, pretty low under the radar himslef

finally, of this quick list, i would like to know more about kalse. he show's up very little, says a lot of very pithy, curt statements and i really can't say much bout him

I agree with your last statements quite a bit.

[D'riss]

Barghast, on 15 June 2011 - 05:29 AM, said:

Tiamatha, on 15 June 2011 - 02:31 AM, said:

yeah, i was of the mind that just getting that first lynch on day one and was waiting for the start of a consensus, plus i thought fener's adamance was intriguing, so i decided to prod that situation a little.

after that, it was just a pissing match between fener and eloth, and so i just waited out that nasty little storm observing closely (figured I had voted and unless there was some argument to convince me of merrid's innocence, which he didn't seem to interested in espoucing, i would just hold my thoughts until they were worth something with a day and night past, hence the timing of my previus post)

i thought the arguement pettered out because fener got sick of ranting. whatev

Ok, so you were waiting around for the first thing that looked like a lynch and voted for it, then lurked while other people were taking the focus onto themselves? If this was a normal game you would pretty much have admitted to being scum - I know this a faction game, but seriously?

vote Tiamatha

I was suspicious of your vote yesterday as you seemed a little too willing to just go with whatever was available. Someone else noticed the same thing and called you on it and your response just screams scum to me.

Screams Scum? Scum of which team? This is a faction game, not M&P. Not that I don't disagree that Tiam might think he knows most of his team, but still...

[D'riss]

Tiamatha, on 15 June 2011 - 12:55 PM, said:

D, on 14 June 2011 - 08:40 PM, said:

Someone hit a cultist. Or is that symp cultist? Hmm. I've got to re-read with the new info, but I need food. Will try and be back tonight, will be on early tomorrow morning if I dont make it.

D'riss is really really really pinging my radar. he keeps giving excuses for disappearing, which in an of themselves are not bad, but then he never follows up with any solid speculations or content. i'd peg him for being a capt, but considering that all leaders are in play still, i would be nervous aobut the 1 in 4 chance of hitting the trumpets leader (does anyone think that eliminating all trumpets is a game win condition?)

on that note, i also think we need to start getting a discussion going trying to tease out both winnning conditions for each faction and their following MOs. as I mentioned earlier, and as you all know, this is faction game not town/scum so we need to think a little with a more complexity

but, we have four leaders and maybe seconds right? and there is a recruiter and at least two night killers. we haven't even talked about UMPC and UMC. what special rolls would they have? and they are the biggest human factions right? rereading the OP i would speculate that UMC's "dragon" is also an ultimate enemy and even though we need to get rid of the cult first because of its potential to grow while the rest of us diminish, i don't think we should let that second story line slide of our radar

Your right, I should lurk for an entire day and then come on and start talking about other peoples 'excuses' for things like food and sleep. That seems a good strategy...

Do you honestly think that anyone is going to give you any kind of thoughts on their winning conditions?

You seem more and more fishy as I read the thread.

[Path-Shaper]

theres a few minor clues in the scenes for this game, nothing major, just to explain roles more than anything else

[D'riss]

Fener, on 15 June 2011 - 01:02 PM, said:

hmmm... based on this post its fair to assume you arent UMPC or UMC... at least that is what you are putting out.
And ofcourse no one will claim to be cult...

So you are trying to pretty much come out as a trumpet crew member then?

interesting

This is interesting. He did just pretty much admit he was trumpet or cult, or a giant flaming liar fishing for information. Good catch.

[D'riss]

Path-Shaper, on 15 June 2011 - 01:26 PM, said:

theres a few minor clues in the scenes for this game, nothing major, just to explain roles more than anything else

How dare you violate the rules!

I demand a modkill on PS!

Also, thanks for the info ;P

[D'riss]

I'm back and see 3 anons besides me. Anyone wish to chat?

[Eloth]

Tiamatha, on 15 June 2011 - 12:55 PM, said:

D, on 14 June 2011 - 08:40 PM, said:

Someone hit a cultist. Or is that symp cultist? Hmm. I've got to re-read with the new info, but I need food. Will try and be back tonight, will be on early tomorrow morning if I dont make it.

D'riss is really really really pinging my radar. he keeps giving excuses for disappearing, which in an of themselves are not bad, but then he never follows up with any solid speculations or content. i'd peg him for being a capt, but considering that all leaders are in play still, i would be nervous aobut the 1 in 4 chance of hitting the trumpets leader (does anyone think that eliminating all trumpets is a game win condition?)

on that note, i also think we need to start getting a discussion going trying to tease out both winnning conditions for each faction and their following MOs. as I mentioned earlier, and as you all know, this is faction game not town/scum so we need to think a little with a more complexity

but, we have four leaders and maybe seconds right? and there is a recruiter and at least two night killers. we haven't even talked about UMPC and UMC. what special rolls would they have? and they are the biggest human factions right? rereading the OP i would speculate that UMC's "dragon" is also an ultimate enemy and even though we need to get rid of the cult first because of its potential to grow while the rest of us diminish, i don't think we should let that second story line slide of our radar

I would assume that there is a round robin sort of winning condition. we know that a trumpet member was specifically set up to remove cult or block cult so its likely that the trumpet are aiming to remove them as their winning condition. It looks though like umpc are trying to remove or to capture angus for their winning condition against the umc?? cult is probably a standard have more players sort of scenario, or remove all leaders. Umc is probably then something tied into a combo of all three but to a much lesser extent..

It does state the winning conditions arent really exclusive and more than one team can win.

[Tiamatha]

i am around working from home, but i'm trying to focus on the work part. it's hard when i keep popping in at dead times when im done iwth work.

[Eloth]

Barghast, on 14 June 2011 - 01:21 PM, said:

The other thing I don't like is the people going on about not knowing things about certain factions - that's the sort of thing you ask about off thread, discussing it on thread seems a bit intentional. Although whether it's indicative that thye are or aren't in the factions being discussed it pure WIFOM.

This pinged my radar quite a bit. i certainly cant speak to anyone off thread, and know nothing about any other faction beyond guesswork. The mods arent giving us any info on or off thread - so saying that people discussing factions on thread is an intentional ploy has me thinking you are very well informed.

vote barghast

[D'riss]

DId you guys know that Serc is alive and has like 5 posts total?

[D'riss]

Oooo activity. Eloth, it seems a little weird to me that you are speculating on winning conditions this early in the game... and then Tiam doing what he thinks I'm fishy for doing. How excellent.

[Barghast]

Cult often play like scum early on in faction games since they are a small faction that everyone is going to go after on thread. So scummy and cult are close enough in my head that I'll throw a vote out on someone who's playing like a traditional scum. It was a bit of weak move, but hey, it was worth seeing what the reaction would be. Maybe it has nothing to do with my vote, but the sudden need to look like a Trumpet player (or fish for info in a big way - I agree with D'riss's analysis of the situation) means I'm actually quite happy leaving my vote where it is for now.

[Barghast]

Eloth, on 15 June 2011 - 01:37 PM, said:

Barghast, on 14 June 2011 - 01:21 PM, said:

The other thing I don't like is the people going on about not knowing things about certain factions - that's the sort of thing you ask about off thread, discussing it on thread seems a bit intentional. Although whether it's indicative that thye are or aren't in the factions being discussed it pure WIFOM.

This pinged my radar quite a bit. i certainly cant speak to anyone off thread, and know nothing about any other faction beyond guesswork. The mods arent giving us any info on or off thread - so saying that people discussing factions on thread is an intentional ploy has me thinking you are very well informed.

vote barghast

No, I'm very badly informed and the first thing I did was send PS a whole long list of questions. Of course they were all ignored, but I wouldn't reveal the slightest part of what I do or do not know on thread unless I deliberately wanted to (attempt to) appear in a certain faction. Which is what made me a little bit uncomfortable with some of the players were doing yesterday and again with what Tiamatha is doing now.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 2. 13 hours and 29 minutes remaining

13 Players still alive: Alkend, Anomandaris, Barghast, D'riss, Eloth, Fener, Gamelon, Kalse, Karatallid, Liosan, Okaros, Serc, Tiamatha

7 votes to lynch, 7 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Tiamatha ( Barghast )
1 Vote for Barghast ( Eloth )

Players not voted: Alkend, Anomandaris, D'riss, Fener, Gamelon, Kalse, Karatallid, Liosan, Okaros, Serc, Tiamatha

[Eloth]

D, on 15 June 2011 - 01:44 PM, said:

Oooo activity. Eloth, it seems a little weird to me that you are speculating on winning conditions this early in the game... and then Tiam doing what he thinks I'm fishy for doing. How excellent.

i responded to tiam by simply pointing to the op. its not really anything new or speculating

[Path-Shaper]

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its not really anything new or speculating

but we so love to see you guys speculate...

- T.

edit for initial... vainglorious bastard that I am.

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 15 June 2011 - 02:08 PM

[Eloth]

i could quote it for you if you like, maybe reading the op and the rules might make things clearer for you.

[Eloth]

Barghast, on 15 June 2011 - 01:50 PM, said:

Eloth, on 15 June 2011 - 01:37 PM, said:

Barghast, on 14 June 2011 - 01:21 PM, said:

The other thing I don't like is the people going on about not knowing things about certain factions - that's the sort of thing you ask about off thread, discussing it on thread seems a bit intentional. Although whether it's indicative that thye are or aren't in the factions being discussed it pure WIFOM.

This pinged my radar quite a bit. i certainly cant speak to anyone off thread, and know nothing about any other faction beyond guesswork. The mods arent giving us any info on or off thread - so saying that people discussing factions on thread is an intentional ploy has me thinking you are very well informed.

vote barghast

No, I'm very badly informed and the first thing I did was send PS a whole long list of questions. Of course they were all ignored, but I wouldn't reveal the slightest part of what I do or do not know on thread unless I deliberately wanted to (attempt to) appear in a certain faction. Which is what made me a little bit uncomfortable with some of the players were doing yesterday and again with what Tiamatha is doing now.

If they were ignored then why do you find it odd that others asked questions on thread? Its a four way faction game with no clear winning conditions and very quiet mods. The op makes it pretty clear, but certain players have indicated they didnt read it for fear of spoiling the books.

remove vote