[blanketman2.0]

OberynM, on 16 April 2013 - 05:31 PM, said:

Also i recommend watching Nodame Cantabile its a greaet anime love/music ..Silencer WATCH ANIME:) Hellsing and Kenshin OVA are grade A ...

but the CG can be an eyesore in Cantabile but it is a good show tho found it thanks to an amv called the stage i think its a mesh of Aoi bantaku (another good show)
and Cantabile its a really good amv

This post has been edited by blanketman2.0: 19 April 2013 - 08:49 PM

[OberynM]

Silencer regarding Fate Zero: the first show introducing us the characters lacks epicness..and not because its the first part.a lot of animes better season one and so one..primarily it doesnt resolve to anything .,CASTER AND RIDERS best created servants by far.i mean in the demented way of character construction based on the historical counterparts is pure mirror reflection.Watch Legend of Galactic Heroes and then hit me up.its like a puzzle waiting to be solved by all the willing minds..when i think about the plot scope i just go ape shit.ITS A MUST SEE MAN.
CG had some akward moments in the series but overall it created one of the most love/hate chars ever and that amounts for something..Kenshit,Light,Vampire Hunter none of these antiheroes rise up to Lelouch in my oppinion.HIs motivations and plannig ARE GRADE A !!!:

[Silencer]

We'll have to agree to disagree about the first part of Fate/Zero lacking epicness.


Right, so, for the current season lineup my thoughts thus far:

Shingeki no Kyojin - unquestionably the best OP of the shows I've watched. And, it goes with ANYTHING: like THIS. More seriously, I like that it's taking its time somewhat, though it does feel a tad truncated compared to what I imagine the original manga/LN would have been like (haven't read it, though), which is always a factor when you've only got so many episodes to show so much content. I imagine episode 4 is going to kick into the story proper and we'll see some more action etc. Looking forward to it.

Suisei no Gargantia - hmmm. I'm not really sure where I stand on this one. "OK", is I guess where I'm sitting at the moment. It is seeming to lack much in the way of plot motivation or depth, and considering our protagonist has, literally, an Infinity +1 NUKE compared to everyone else, I can't see there being much drama save for what is generated by him being forced to fight with one hand tied behind his back because of Gargantia's morals. I'm enjoying the "adapting to a different world" aspect of it, though, and the characters are, if not stunningly interesting, at least reasonable enough to keep me watching.

Railgun S - I think it's safe to say we know where I sit on this one. "SQUEEEEEEEEEE!" sums it up. XD

What's everyone else watching/thinking atm?

[LinearPhilosopher]

putting gargantia on hold. I get the feeling it will go somewhere eventually. But it'll take a few episodes so ill wait for this.

Valvrave is looking good so far as is attack on titan. Majestic princes is funny and may go somewhere. Devil survivor 2 is also intresting. It's not afraid to kill off characters.

[Silencer]

Ooh, I'd almost forgotten that I was watching Devil Survivor! I need to watch episode 3. It's already got a pretty high body count in terms of "non-primary character" casualties, lol.

[LinearPhilosopher]

just saw the latest attack on titan. Can someone please explain to me how no one can see a 60ft giant approaching a wall that's just as high?

[Silencer]

BalrogLord, on 28 April 2013 - 02:29 AM, said:

just saw the latest attack on titan. Can someone please explain to me how no one can see a 60ft giant approaching a wall that's just as high?

Ah, I thought you were being sarcastic before I watched it myself, now I see why.

But here's the thing:

Spoiler

If you go back to the first episode, do you remember that lightning strike/similar effect right before the Colossal Titan showed up that time? If you rewatch the scene this episode where it literally appears right behind Eren at the wall, there is a very similar SFX to be seen. I'm picking it either has some kind of special ability/whatever that basically allows it to teleport/flash step or something a bit like that...or it's just fucking fast, but that would be implausible...

So it's not completely unexplained. We just don't know why/how yet. Similarly, for the Titans that are sure to show up shortly, I got the impression most of the population...uhm...doesn't really look outside? Even the guards, it's implied that they all just live, mentally, "inside" the walls, with no thought given to what's happening outside. They just don't want to know. So you can imagine the lookouts (assuming people are assigned to such a role) spend most of their time...not looking out. Not really relevant to the arrival of the Colossal Titan, though.

But yeah, I'm sure this is something which will be explained/explored later on, given what little I know of the original.

[Ukjent]

I was wondering if anyone could recommend something steampunk if there anything good out there. The only anime I have seen is Naruto, and it's just sucks so bad I can't begin to describe it and haven't seen any anime in 4-5 years because of it.

[Silencer]

Ugh. Naruto...epitomises a lot of what made me overlook anime as a medium for so long. Basically the exact opposite of the shows that got me to start this thread...


Anyway, steampunk! Not that I've watched these, but Last Exile and Ergo Proxy are apparently both steampunk and pretty good in their own right. Also, if you don't mind something a bit more "magitek" (but steampunky nonetheless), Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood is a great watch (though it sits in the same broad demographic as Naruto, it is considerably better, and not just in the sense of "can actually watch" XD).

I'd have to rely on others for examples, though having had Ergo Proxy on my "to watch" list for ages, and being somewhat intrigued by the TV Tropes entry for Last Exile, I think I may just go and start watching both of those myself!

[LinearPhilosopher]

ergo proxy... i need to rewatch that series to properly evaluate it. On the one hand when i first saw it i thought it was a great show with a complex plot. As i age i realise that some of the plot elements are down right pretentious. If know you philosophy at least as well as i do you'll find yourself facepalming at it's attempted philosophy.

[LinearPhilosopher]

Silencer, on 28 April 2013 - 03:59 AM, said:

BalrogLord, on 28 April 2013 - 02:29 AM, said:

just saw the latest attack on titan. Can someone please explain to me how no one can see a 60ft giant approaching a wall that's just as high?

Ah, I thought you were being sarcastic before I watched it myself, now I see why.

But here's the thing:

Spoiler

If you go back to the first episode, do you remember that lightning strike/similar effect right before the Colossal Titan showed up that time? If you rewatch the scene this episode where it literally appears right behind Eren at the wall, there is a very similar SFX to be seen. I'm picking it either has some kind of special ability/whatever that basically allows it to teleport/flash step or something a bit like that...or it's just fucking fast, but that would be implausible...

So it's not completely unexplained. We just don't know why/how yet. Similarly, for the Titans that are sure to show up shortly, I got the impression most of the population...uhm...doesn't really look outside? Even the guards, it's implied that they all just live, mentally, "inside" the walls, with no thought given to what's happening outside. They just don't want to know. So you can imagine the lookouts (assuming people are assigned to such a role) spend most of their time...not looking out. Not really relevant to the arrival of the Colossal Titan, though.

But yeah, I'm sure this is something which will be explained/explored later on, given what little I know of the original.

fair enough we'll see. I just thought it was rather convenient in terms of plot.

[Silencer]

BalrogLord, on 28 April 2013 - 11:53 AM, said:

ergo proxy... i need to rewatch that series to properly evaluate it. On the one hand when i first saw it i thought it was a great show with a complex plot. As i age i realise that some of the plot elements are down right pretentious. If know you philosophy at least as well as i do you'll find yourself facepalming at it's attempted philosophy.

Hmmm...most TV philosophy suffers in the light of philosophical study, I admit, but that's mostly because it's (almost) impossible to have any sort of meaningful philosophical element where that element isn't: contrived, over-simplified, under-explored, becomes convoluted by trying to make it better, or otherwise becomes disappointing. This is primarily because philosophy itself suffers from having no variety of really convincing "sides" to most beliefs - one tends to have either a firm philosophical stance on an issue, or not care for any of the presented options. For a TV show with broader scope than just the philosophy and very limited time in which to develop it, this tends to lead to issues. (Actually, most "complex" plots, period, suffer from something similar in hindsight...)

That being said, Ergo Proxy is pretty much founded on analysing the concept of a utopia, if the bits I've read summary-wise are adequate, so I hope they do a better job of it than it sounds.

Makes two people so far who I've seen refer to it as "pretentious". Then again, the other person who did that was also comparing it, in the sense of pretentiousness/being chained to its core concept, of Noein, which I liked a lot. Quantum Physics: The Anime!, lol. Will probably come down to how much suspension of disbelief I can maintain...

BalrogLord, on 28 April 2013 - 11:56 AM, said:

*snip*

fair enough we'll see. I just thought it was rather convenient in terms of plot.

Yah, I'm waiting on finding out what exactly is behind this too. But I believe it's scheduled to be a full 23 episodes, so it's got some leeway right now to delve into that stuff, or do some creative handwaving in terms of why the characters don't find this stuff out - I imagine some things will be excused based on the fact that, "Hello! We were too busy trying to kill the sixty foot tall human-eating monstrosity, thankyouverymuch!", rofl! If I didn't remember the lightning thing and sudden appearance from the first episode, I probably would have been asking the same question, for sure, though...

[LinearPhilosopher]

Silencer, on 28 April 2013 - 12:09 PM, said:

BalrogLord, on 28 April 2013 - 11:53 AM, said:

ergo proxy... i need to rewatch that series to properly evaluate it. On the one hand when i first saw it i thought it was a great show with a complex plot. As i age i realise that some of the plot elements are down right pretentious. If know you philosophy at least as well as i do you'll find yourself facepalming at it's attempted philosophy.

Hmmm...most TV philosophy suffers in the light of philosophical study, I admit, but that's mostly because it's (almost) impossible to have any sort of meaningful philosophical element where that element isn't: contrived, over-simplified, under-explored, becomes convoluted by trying to make it better, or otherwise becomes disappointing. This is primarily because philosophy itself suffers from having no variety of really convincing "sides" to most beliefs - one tends to have either a firm philosophical stance on an issue, or not care for any of the presented options. For a TV show with broader scope than just the philosophy and very limited time in which to develop it, this tends to lead to issues. (Actually, most "complex" plots, period, suffer from something similar in hindsight...)

there are of course epceptions, kino's journey, GiTS, Paranoia agent to name a few. GiTS is heavily influenced by Sartre for example, either that or both authors were thinking the same thing.

and look what i found here
http://www.deadline....-series-at-hbo/

This post has been edited by BalrogLord: 29 April 2013 - 03:10 AM

[Silencer]

Sew, anyone else watched "Black Rock Shooter"? I've seen two eps so far, and I have to say it's quite interesting....I think giant macaroons being used as projectiles (it makes sense in context) is probably up there in terms of "comedic yet horrifying" concepts, lol. It's only 8 episodes long (or, if you watch the original OVA, well, it's an OVA) but seems like it is going to have quite a psychological plot to it.

Also currently watching School Days (the protagonist is up there with a certain girl from ef, in terms of "characters who manage to monumentally screw things up for themselves by being selfish/cowardly/stupid idiots all the time", but it's still quite engaging nonetheless), which is similarly dark. Great times.

[blanketman2.0]

Silencer, on 04 May 2013 - 04:23 AM, said:

Sew, anyone else watched "Black Rock Shooter"? I've seen two eps so far, and I have to say it's quite interesting....I think giant macaroons being used as projectiles (it makes sense in context) is probably up there in terms of "comedic yet horrifying" concepts, lol. It's only 8 episodes long (or, if you watch the original OVA, well, it's an OVA) but seems like it is going to have quite a psychological plot to it.

Also currently watching School Days (the protagonist is up there with a certain girl from ef, in terms of "characters who manage to monumentally screw things up for themselves by being selfish/cowardly/stupid idiots all the time", but it's still quite engaging nonetheless), which is similarly dark. Great times.

aww shit nice boat my short summary of school days. that show really pissed me off although the ending was extremely gratifying
on that note the berserk anime ending holy shit why did you end it there end then i read the manga and all was good, for me not Guts the universe wants to kill him

[Brujah]

Honestly, I don't think I've ever even seen any anime before. I guess I always either overlooked it, or never really paid attention.

[blanketman2.0]

Karsa, on 04 May 2013 - 06:10 AM, said:

Honestly, I don't think I've ever even seen any anime before. I guess I always either overlooked it, or never really paid attention.

I also overlooked it for quite a long time it mainly do to some prejudice agaist it as a children media it wasint until my friends introduced me to death note that i got into anime in all reallity it a from of media that can reach all ages but it's all about personnal pteferance

[Garak]

First anime I ever saw was Evangelion and that was because of a friend who was going through a phase where he gushed over everything Japanese. Following that he showed me Death Note, Elfen Lied (where we kept going on about which personality we liked better, I preferred Lucy), Ergo Proxy (which was good except for the last episode which pumped cocaine in it's veins, at least that's the impression it left, it's been a few years and I can't recall it all that well).

By myself, I've seen bits of Helsing OVA, Berserk (the anime, the movies and read the manga ... yeah I really like Berserk) and recently Black Lagoon (which again I really liked - Revy is hilarious is watch). That's about it for my experience with anime. I definetly think that the shows that keep getting shown here are of no help and I really dislike it when they go all weird (Helsing OVA had these bits where it went from cool looking to incredibly idiotic which just meant I stopped watching).

[Brujah]

blanketman2.0, on 04 May 2013 - 05:32 PM, said:

Karsa, on 04 May 2013 - 06:10 AM, said:

Honestly, I don't think I've ever even seen any anime before. I guess I always either overlooked it, or never really paid attention.

I also overlooked it for quite a long time it mainly do to some prejudice agaist it as a children media it wasint until my friends introduced me to death note that i got into anime in all reallity it a from of media that can reach all ages but it's all about personnal pteferance

Well, I never saw it as children's media. I knew it was mature themed. And I didn't mean I overlooked it on purpose, I just never got around to it. I might check it out, myself. This forum has rarely given me bad suggestions. Nearly every direction I've been pointed towards has been something I enjoyed.

[Silencer]

Okay, so...Black Rock Shooter...what the fuck is going on??!?!?! I'm quite enjoying this show...the mix of emotional/psychological themes and the dichotomy of the two worlds is absolutely brilliant...can't wait to see where this goes in the next couple of eps. But, more importantly, dat sword. Simple design, a reasonable size, and it looks awesome*.

*Feel compelled to point out: don't bother Googl'ing for it. Apparently the anime version of it is not drawn particularly often, or if it is, not well.