[Aptorian]

That might be Tomb Raider overload.

You should play Rise as soon as you can though. In my opinion It was 2015s GOTY,better even than Witcher 3 and Batman Arkham Knight.

[Maark Abbott]

Alternative Goose, on 06 September 2018 - 04:52 PM, said:

Maark Abbott, on 06 September 2018 - 07:56 AM, said:

Alternative Goose, on 04 September 2018 - 09:12 AM, said:

BK is talking about Titanfall not Team Fortress.

From what I recall certain weapons, abilities and titans unlock as you level up, so yes, level matters. But your starting load out is very competitive.

TF is all about movement always be running and jumping and wall running.

Huh. TF2 has always been Team Fortress Poo to me.

I didn't like what I played of Titanfall anyway. Went through the tutorial and it felt super slow and clunky. Then again it's a modern day FPS and I don't tend to like any of those.

Doesn't like Doom and TF2, doesn't want to play a game with Robot dinosaurs... I am worried about you, Maark.

I like Doom. 1, 2 and Final, top games. In fact any Id shooter from the 90s is absolutely golden and still plays beautifully now (Q1/2... Quake 2 on the hardest setting is mint). TF2 was straight up bad - Valve went for zany comedy over gameplay and the game suffered for it. Worst Doom is just bad to the point that Doom 3 was better (also Doom 3 actually had boss fights). Hell, even Quake 4 was better than Worst Doom. In short, modern FPS have a tendency to not be so good. Those that are good tend to be (in a strange inversion) the wacky ones that don't try to take themselves seriously (see: Bulletstorm, Borderlands). TF2, considering everyone said 'wow this so fast' felt slower than bullet time in The Matrix. There was as much speed to it as a broken down Reliant Robin.

And the main reason I shy away from HZD is the sheer hype behind it, because every single hype train I've boarded lately has left me absolutely disappointed (see: WOK, Worst Doom, KOTW). If there was a playable demo of it to get at least a cursory feel for how it plays (and watching a YT video isn't the same at all) I might consider it.

[Tiste Simeon]

HZD is not FPS it's open world RPG. And it's beautiful.

I'd like to add the rebooted Wolfenstein games to your list of good modern FPS games that don't take themselves seriously.

[Mentalist]

See also: Serious Sam 3, the new Shadow Warrior games,

[Serenity]

At this point, around 20 hours in, I'm thinking Fire Emblem: Awakening is one of the best games I've ever played. Easily the best I've played on a handheld, and competing with various X-COM/XCOMs for the best strategy game. Saying this and I've still got Fates and Echoes to play. Seems weird that I'm appreciating the 3DS so much right at the end of its life cycle, and quite scary that its huge library of games is suddenly calling to me.

I'm also about 10 hours into Dragon Quest XI on PS4. I wasn't sure about it at first due to dodgy voice acting and being a bit twee but, after a couple of hours, the story really kicked off, the voice acting improved, and I've been enjoying it muchly since then.

This post has been edited by Serenity: 08 September 2018 - 11:16 AM

[Aptorian]

If it makes you feel any better I'm really good at Titan Fall.

[Maark Abbott]

Tiste Simeon, on 07 September 2018 - 08:25 AM, said:

HZD is not FPS it's open world RPG. And it's beautiful.

I'd like to add the rebooted Wolfenstein games to your list of good modern FPS games that don't take themselves seriously.

I'll have a look into it. Maybe Id will claw back some rep with me, but after Doom16, I'm not hopeful.

[Silencer]

Maark Abbott, on 09 September 2018 - 10:50 AM, said:

Tiste Simeon, on 07 September 2018 - 08:25 AM, said:

HZD is not FPS it's open world RPG. And it's beautiful.

I'd like to add the rebooted Wolfenstein games to your list of good modern FPS games that don't take themselves seriously.

I'll have a look into it. Maybe Id will claw back some rep with me, but after Doom16, I'm not hopeful.

You called Doom 3 better than new Doom? Now I question whether you have actually played new Doom.
Are you sure you didn't actually play some dodgy indie game with the same name?
New Doom was like new Wolfenstein. A great classic experience that had that old school run and gun combat nailed down, and really captured the spirit of their predecessors.
I can understand not liking it, but comparing it unfavorably to 3 is just Trumpian hyperbole. Especially if you liked the original games which new Doom is like a modern incarnation of.

[Maark Abbott]

Silencer, on 09 September 2018 - 12:28 PM, said:

Maark Abbott, on 09 September 2018 - 10:50 AM, said:

Tiste Simeon, on 07 September 2018 - 08:25 AM, said:

HZD is not FPS it's open world RPG. And it's beautiful.

I'd like to add the rebooted Wolfenstein games to your list of good modern FPS games that don't take themselves seriously.

I'll have a look into it. Maybe Id will claw back some rep with me, but after Doom16, I'm not hopeful.

You called Doom 3 better than new Doom? Now I question whether you have actually played new Doom.
Are you sure you didn't actually play some dodgy indie game with the same name?
New Doom was like new Wolfenstein. A great classic experience that had that old school run and gun combat nailed down, and really captured the spirit of their predecessors.
I can understand not liking it, but comparing it unfavorably to 3 is just Trumpian hyperbole. Especially if you liked the original games which new Doom is like a modern incarnation of.

I played New Doom and wanted desperately to love it. But I loathed it. If New Wolf is going to be compared to it, I'll swerve hard to avoid.

Now, Doom 3 is not a very good game. Let's stress that point. And yet I enjoyed it more than New Doom. D3 went for a horror angle and kind of succeeded (ish), it was an interesting take on reinventing the series.

New Doom tried too hard to be Final Doom and fell flat on its ass with crappy level design, predictable enemies and encounters, flimsy feeling guns and generally unsatisfying gameplay. Whilst the easter eggs were cool, they couldn't have it from being a 5/10 at the highlights and perhaps a 3/10 at the worst points. It left such a sour taste in my mouth that I immediately went back and played Final Doom so I could remind myself what Doom SHOULD be.

[Serenity]

I've hit a mission in Fire Emblem: Awakening that is absolutely kicking my arse, which I actually think is a good thing in a game like this. I think I've attempted it six times now, trying different strategies and party combinations. I got pretty far the latest time but then just got overwhelmed by high level enemies which spawned at a certain point. Fortunately it's a side story, so it's not blocking my progress in the main campaign. I'll have to come back to it once more of my characters have levelled up a bit more.

Awesome game

[Silencer]

Maark Abbott, on 10 September 2018 - 07:27 AM, said:

Silencer, on 09 September 2018 - 12:28 PM, said:

Maark Abbott, on 09 September 2018 - 10:50 AM, said:

Tiste Simeon, on 07 September 2018 - 08:25 AM, said:

HZD is not FPS it's open world RPG. And it's beautiful.

I'd like to add the rebooted Wolfenstein games to your list of good modern FPS games that don't take themselves seriously.

I'll have a look into it. Maybe Id will claw back some rep with me, but after Doom16, I'm not hopeful.

You called Doom 3 better than new Doom? Now I question whether you have actually played new Doom.
Are you sure you didn't actually play some dodgy indie game with the same name?
New Doom was like new Wolfenstein. A great classic experience that had that old school run and gun combat nailed down, and really captured the spirit of their predecessors.
I can understand not liking it, but comparing it unfavorably to 3 is just Trumpian hyperbole. Especially if you liked the original games which new Doom is like a modern incarnation of.

I played New Doom and wanted desperately to love it. But I loathed it. If New Wolf is going to be compared to it, I'll swerve hard to avoid.

Now, Doom 3 is not a very good game. Let's stress that point. And yet I enjoyed it more than New Doom. D3 went for a horror angle and kind of succeeded (ish), it was an interesting take on reinventing the series.

New Doom tried too hard to be Final Doom and fell flat on its ass with crappy level design, predictable enemies and encounters, flimsy feeling guns and generally unsatisfying gameplay. Whilst the easter eggs were cool, they couldn't have it from being a 5/10 at the highlights and perhaps a 3/10 at the worst points. It left such a sour taste in my mouth that I immediately went back and played Final Doom so I could remind myself what Doom SHOULD be.

The new Wolfenstein is comparable only in that it revives a classic experience brilliantly, and honestly you'll be missing out on one of the best shooters in the last decade if you don't play it.

Suffice it to say I think we had very different expectations for new Doom, and I felt it delivered in spades. Still not entirely convinced you weren't playing some illegal knock off, but to each their own. It's probably worth you revisiting in a handful of years when your hype-to-disappointment ratio has cooled off a little? Because it's one of those games that is almost universally praised for exactly the things you're criticizing it for.

[Cause]

destiny 2

Has been fun but I'm already running out of steam. I reached lvl 20, unlocked my 3 subclasses have finished the campaign and begun strikes. First I find it annoying that strikes don't fit in the campaign. So they feel mostly just like shooting galleries. Seriously bungie fix the god damn story. Also strikes unlocked at I'm not sure 240 light. Which was roughly right as I finished the campaign. I now have to grind through the strike playlist to heroic strikes at 270 and nightmare strikes at 290 before finally unlocking the raid at 300. That's a lot of grinding to do through the same five strikes over and over again!

Also Infuse! To infuse an item now requires 30 legendary shards and a mod part and something else. I still don't even have enough after all this time to do it even once!

Not a bad game and for the price of free I am obviously satisfied but destiny 2 remains a poor game overall. Its fun but it lacks the pull to keep you playing for a month straight like diablo 3 had.

Also going back to the story. Maybe if the game is a MMORPG / FPS don't make the story line about how your are the only surviving guardian with light. It makes no sense when you finish a mission with a 3 man fireteam and you just saw forty other players in the open world and now the quest giver despairs that only you have the light. I keep sarcastically answering, just go to the fragment. It worked for me and the other million players.

[Aptorian]

I'm more positive than Cause on Destiny 2.

I'm around lvl 33, 330ish light, still haven't finished the campaign. I'm just running around doing dailys, levelling up faction rep, doing events, etc. Haven't even done a strike yet.

But the game is a fun podcast experience playing by yourself. The story has issues but compared to Destiny 1 this is miles ahead.

I'm still not sure what makes Ghaul and his red legion more of a threat than other enemies mankind has faced.

[Khellendros]

Alternative Goose, on 10 September 2018 - 11:07 AM, said:

I'm more positive than Cause on Destiny 2.

I'm around lvl 33, 330ish light, still haven't finished the campaign. I'm just running around doing dailys, levelling up faction rep, doing events, etc. Haven't even done a strike yet.

But the game is a fun podcast experience playing by yourself. The story has issues but compared to Destiny 1 this is miles ahead.

I'm still not sure what makes Ghaul and his red legion more of a threat than other enemies mankind has faced.

That's made quite clear in the campaign towards the end

As for Cause's complaint about levelling - you can do more than just strikes to level up further. Anything that says it rewards Powerful Gear usually gives you something better than what you previously had.

But I agree with the overall complaint that vanilla Destiny 2 it got old fast.

[Serenity]

Wtf? My kids are time travellers??!

I should re-phrase that:

Spoiler

the kids of the characters in FE: Awakening are time travellers??!

Did not see that coming. Holy shit.

[Tiste Simeon]

Maark - I'm not a fan of FPS at all but I loved the two new Wolfenstein games, really good fun on both counts.

[Aptorian]

No spoilers

[Serenity]

Briar King, on 10 September 2018 - 09:05 PM, said:

Xenoblade 1. Holy shitting fuck I'm having fun!

I'm quite tempted to get that for 3DS.

[Maark Abbott]

Silencer, on 10 September 2018 - 08:54 AM, said:

Maark Abbott, on 10 September 2018 - 07:27 AM, said:

Silencer, on 09 September 2018 - 12:28 PM, said:

Maark Abbott, on 09 September 2018 - 10:50 AM, said:

Tiste Simeon, on 07 September 2018 - 08:25 AM, said:

HZD is not FPS it's open world RPG. And it's beautiful.

I'd like to add the rebooted Wolfenstein games to your list of good modern FPS games that don't take themselves seriously.

I'll have a look into it. Maybe Id will claw back some rep with me, but after Doom16, I'm not hopeful.

You called Doom 3 better than new Doom? Now I question whether you have actually played new Doom.
Are you sure you didn't actually play some dodgy indie game with the same name?
New Doom was like new Wolfenstein. A great classic experience that had that old school run and gun combat nailed down, and really captured the spirit of their predecessors.
I can understand not liking it, but comparing it unfavorably to 3 is just Trumpian hyperbole. Especially if you liked the original games which new Doom is like a modern incarnation of.

I played New Doom and wanted desperately to love it. But I loathed it. If New Wolf is going to be compared to it, I'll swerve hard to avoid.

Now, Doom 3 is not a very good game. Let's stress that point. And yet I enjoyed it more than New Doom. D3 went for a horror angle and kind of succeeded (ish), it was an interesting take on reinventing the series.

New Doom tried too hard to be Final Doom and fell flat on its ass with crappy level design, predictable enemies and encounters, flimsy feeling guns and generally unsatisfying gameplay. Whilst the easter eggs were cool, they couldn't have it from being a 5/10 at the highlights and perhaps a 3/10 at the worst points. It left such a sour taste in my mouth that I immediately went back and played Final Doom so I could remind myself what Doom SHOULD be.

The new Wolfenstein is comparable only in that it revives a classic experience brilliantly, and honestly you'll be missing out on one of the best shooters in the last decade if you don't play it.

Suffice it to say I think we had very different expectations for new Doom, and I felt it delivered in spades. Still not entirely convinced you weren't playing some illegal knock off, but to each their own. It's probably worth you revisiting in a handful of years when your hype-to-disappointment ratio has cooled off a little? Because it's one of those games that is almost universally praised for exactly the things you're criticizing it for.

I'm not sure why you're not convinced. It was the most hype game of 2016 and far and away the biggest disappointment of the year. Also your argument relies on argumento ad populum (but it was universally praised!) which is a logical fallacy. I wouldn't waste my time on it again, a crap game given a few years isn't going to magically improve.

I'll pass on Wolfenstein most likely. People said Doom 16 was one of the most fun shooters of that year and look what believing them got me. Nothing but pain.

[Silencer]

*can be a logical fallacy. In this case it's an argument to suggest that as your opinion on something subjective differs from popular opinion, in your admission in part because of your expectations based on that popular opinion, that your opinion may be subject to change in the future.
It would be fallacious if I was using it to suggest that something objective about the game was different to what it is, but as we are discussing opinion and subjective experiences, the broadly accepted response is a valid facet of the argument.

Especially if you then go to base a buying decision for another game on that same public opinion in your next paragraph.