[Werthead]

Briar King, on 23 August 2016 - 08:45 PM, said:

I ll look into Human Revolution.

Make sure it's the revamped edition. It folds the DLC into the main game (which is good, because it's excellent) and it reworks some really annoying niggles from the base game.

I'd also argue that it makes more sense to play HUMAN REVOLUTION. The 12-minute catchup is nice but it's not massively comprehensible unless you have played the first game.

The original DEUS EX is an absolute masterpiece but I would argue is very, very difficult to play today unless you came up with those kind of games and have a lot of patience. It was obtuse and baffling when it came out, let alone by modern standards. Even when it came out the near total lack of an autosave was really strange (I remember once getting into a very tense stage of the game, not saving for about 3 hours, dying and getting dumped right back before those 3 hours. Not fun).

Really enjoying MANKIND DIVIDED but something that is quite annoying:

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The game just completely ignores the three big choices from the first game: saving Malik, choosing to get the revamped chip and the final choice at the end of the game seem to have been completely meaningless.

[Mentalist]

Apt, on 23 August 2016 - 07:35 PM, said:

Briar King, on 23 August 2016 - 06:29 PM, said:

Never played them but they look so cool. Would that be a good starting pt game jump into?

Not sure if you're referring to Baldur's Gate or Deus Ex.

If you mean Deus Ex I reckon there are two ways to look at it.

1. You are are the kind of game nerd that wants to know every game in a series. You want a deep encyclopedic knowledge of the history of games. You also have an affection for old games and old game mechanics and graphics.

At which point I'd say start with the first Deus Ex that came out around 2000. The first level is a bit rough but for the time, the game is something truly special.

2. You just like playing video games and prefer the newest best games, over obscure or obtuse gaming experiences. You're looking for a great game and don't really care about the ancestry of games.

At which case I'd argue that you either start with Human Revolution released in 2011 or just start out with Mankind Divided that just came out. There's a pretty thorough 12 minute story intro that you can chose to watch at the start of the game.

From the 2-2.6 hours I played, Mankind divided is basically "just" a new Human Revolution. Definitely the best playing, prettiest game so far in the series.

Me and Apt had these arguments before.

Contrary to what he seems to think of me ( that I'm a nostalgia-goggled retrograde), I originally played Deus Ex in my Uni years, so 6-7 years after it came out. At that point I've been playing computer games since I was at least 9 or 10, and I was an RTS junkie who hated first-person shooters as "dumb" and whose total RPG experience was the first 2 acts of Diablo II and the original Legacy of Kain (which was described by reviewers as "Gothic Zelda with vampires"). So I really can't say I grew up with those types of game (the Thieves and the System Shocks), since I discovered them WAAAY AFTER I played the original Deus Ex.

Yeah, it's not the easiest game to get into. The graphics argument doesn't hold water anymore- there's high def texture mods that make the game look totally playable even by modern standards. Its gameplay has a few quirks, because it's NOT a shooter, but beyond that I wouldn't say it's a difficult game to get into. Its level and mission design still stands out after all these years. Considering it costs like 5 bucks on Steam or GOG, I'd encourage BK to give it a try.

Human Revolution is a decent game, that does a few things really well, but is also incredibly bland as a whole. it's a first-person stealth shooter with a totally unnecessary third person cover system crowbared into it (I was able to ghost the entire game (except that one level where I make the stylistic choice to murder everyone after corporate goons do a massacre) without resorting to third-person stealth once- I specifically bound the cover system toggle to the "tilde" key to make sure I don't use it accidentally). Its story was beyond boring. It had flashes of brilliance in level design- the Yuzhao district in Hengsha ("The Rooftops District") was a hell of a lot of fun to explore- but overall it was underwhelming. Director's cut fixed the boss fights and integrated the DLC and the "rescue Tracer Tong" bonus mission, making the whole experience more cohesive, but I wouldn't call Human Revolution an exceptional game.

[Mentalist]

Briar King, on 24 August 2016 - 02:51 AM, said:

I'm more or less just looking for an entry game into the series on consoles cause I don't have the time or want atm to start from beginning and go through all of them with as much as I play Destiny and very soon FF15(fuck me I can't wait for this)

Both Human Revolution and Mankind Divided are prequels. HR isn't an especially good game (imho). Can't speak on MD, because I haven't bought it yet.

[Gothos]

TheRetiredBridgeburner, on 23 August 2016 - 07:06 PM, said:

Imperial Historian, on 23 August 2016 - 08:25 AM, said:

TheRetiredBridgeburner, on 22 August 2016 - 09:34 AM, said:

Replaying Baldur's Gate 2.

No, you will not drag me kicking and screaming into the 21st century! *shakes fist*

Still one of my favourite games. Have you checked out the modding community? There is lot of pretty good additional content which is very easy to install.

Unfinished business is a must install for the kidnapping of boo!

I have played UB in the past I always liked Longer Road for Throne of Bhaal too. Unfortunately most of it doesn't work on the enhanced edition, which I'm now running because my old discs have finally given up the ghost!

One of my fondest memories of gaming was soloing BG2 as a pureclass wizard. Good times!

[Obdigore]

Got Pokemon Uranium.

I see why Nintendo freaked out.

So far it's better than anything they've put out recently, and I'm only at the first gym.

[Maark Abbott]

Is it as hard as D'rek suggested? I'm thinking of giving it a go.

Gonna be getting my BlazBlue on later. Mai Natsume details are leaking for Centralfiction and I'm seriously considering maining her - midrange spear punishing coupled with moderate zoning abilities and a counter super? Aw yeah. I'll get near that trap door.

[Obdigore]

Maark Abbott, on 26 August 2016 - 02:57 PM, said:

Is it as hard as D'rek suggested? I'm thinking of giving it a go.

Gonna be getting my BlazBlue on later. Mai Natsume details are leaking for Centralfiction and I'm seriously considering maining her - midrange spear punishing coupled with moderate zoning abilities and a counter super? Aw yeah. I'll get near that trap door.

It's certainly harder than the normal pokemon games. I don't know where it falls on the "D'rek Hardness scale", but I suppose it falls somewhere between a softcover Memories of Ice and Channing Tatum's Abs.

[Silencer]

Considering how easy the current crop of Pokemon games are, that's not a high bar to clear, lol.

[Traveller]

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Number of downloads: 0

The Pirate - Caribbean Hunt.

This game is so very good.

I've been looking for a 'Pirates!' replacement for ages, and there are a lot of attempts out there, but this beats them all, hands down.

I've upgraded to a brig, got stern cannons, bow chasers, improved hull, sails and hold; and I just got mortars which means I can now attack towns.

I took my first town last night, having to defeat 3 ships and the fort itself, lobbing mortars on it while trying to draw the ships onto the shoals. Not played many games on the tablet but the controls are well placed, and the details are meticulous - it's great the way different sails drop according to the wind direction, and the holes that appear in them when hit with bar shot.

So far I have a letter of marque from Britain, and I'm aiming to get a frigate, call it Surprise, and sail around bashing the french. Smuggling missions are earning me quite a bit at the moment but I keep spending it upgrading the ship and buildings in my bases.

I'm so hooked that I haven't touched No Man's Sky in a week. And this was free.

Spoilered for size as it looks massive on my screen and I don't know how to resize

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Number of downloads: 0

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[Tiste Simeon]

Traveller, how does it compare to Assassin's Creed Black Flag?

[Traveller]

Tiste Simeon, on 28 August 2016 - 12:20 PM, said:

Traveller, how does it compare to Assassin's Creed Black Flag?

Well it's not a AAA console game, it's a free game I'm playing on tablet and my phone - but that said it looks just fine.

No running about towns eavesdropping or whatever, just ships, ports, fortresses and now I've found a treasure map or two. I'd been using a sort of fast travel between ports but when you go free roaming you can find stranded survivors, shipwrecks, and yesterday I found an empty, abandoned galleon with some gold and a map left in it.

I think it looks amazing. If you use the telescope when its foggy, you sometimes just get a glimpse of mastheads poking through the upper levels of fog. The night/day cycle gives some great backdrops.

And the ship encounters are way better than AC. You can see a bigger frigate or something ahead, and watch as they become aware of you and drop sails to give chase.
A broadside is suitably smoky and loud - you can see the flashes as other ships fight on the horizon - you can go and support, or wait until they're done and take out the weakened loser.

I got a free 2nd rate warship when I paid to get rid of the ads (the only £ I spent on it so far) but I sold it as I want to work up to the bigger stuff.

As a Patrick O'Brian fan I'm loving it way more than AC. You can customise the paint job on the ships and buy upgrades, you could make your own Black Pearl, Dutchman or whatever.

If you've got a decent phone or tablet and you like sailing around trading, smuggling, transporting, treasure hunting etc without the whole AC story and onshore antics then yes, I'd say it's better than Black Flag; but then I am biased towards the era and may be marvelling over details that other people would pretty much ignore.

Horribly addicted to it right now - I really want a frigate, and although I've beaten two now by the end of each fight I didn't have enough men to keep them as a prize, so I'll keep looking.

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[Maark Abbott]

Silencer, on 27 August 2016 - 12:11 AM, said:

Considering how easy the current crop of Pokemon games are, that's not a high bar to clear, lol.

I haven't played since Gen IV but I remember that Diamond / Platinum were pretty tough, mainly due to being forced to grind.

[Aptorian]

I have been mainlining Deus Ex: Mankind Divided for the past week.

I really, really like this game. I agree with all the criticism of the games story not committing to the narrative and the game just sort of treading water. But damn is the gameplay fun. The environments are full of secret pathways and a billion items to collect.

I basically play the game like a kleptomaniac, good samaritan vigilante. Sneaking into peoples apartments and stealing all their life savings. Then I help random people and beat the shit out of the police. All of it non-lethal of course because I am good guy.

The game more or less feels like Deus Ex: Human Revolution 1.5 and not a completely new game, but the improvements they have made in terms of animations, the size of the environments, the abilities, etc. make it well worth it. Even if I am actually only using 2 of the new over clock abilities.

[Silencer]

Maark Abbott, on 29 August 2016 - 07:55 AM, said:

Silencer, on 27 August 2016 - 12:11 AM, said:

Considering how easy the current crop of Pokemon games are, that's not a high bar to clear, lol.

I haven't played since Gen IV but I remember that Diamond / Platinum were pretty tough, mainly due to being forced to grind.

I've been playing Y, and off the top of my head here are the things that make it ridiculously easy:

1. Free EXP share very early on
2. Starter Pokemon are OP (I picked the fire-type...it becomes Fire/Psychic and learns Psybeam upon first evolution, the water one becomes Water/Dark, etc)
3. You are given a Gen I starter Pokemon, free of charge, as soon as you reach the central city, about 15% into the game (pick Bulbasaur/Squirtle/Charmander to complement your main)
4. You can catch all sorts of random Pokemon in the first areas, including a Pikachu, rounding out your type roster pretty early on
5. You catch the game's legendary Pokemon in a forced event after the sixth (?) gym - you cannot fail, if you KO it or get wiped, the event starts again, no Master Ball required, even though...
6. You are given a Master Ball and an item worth 30,000 Pokedollars about 50% through the game
7. You are given a free Mega Evolution stone and ring to Mega Evolve your Pokemon about 40% into the game, plus a free Lucario to play with
8. All the gyms are cakewalks - I literally have passed every gym without a single Pokemon KO, essentially only using my main unless I wanted to switch for fun/exp, or in the one gym where my second was way more efficient
9. The last gym, just to give you an example, is an ICE gym. ICE! Naturally with either a fire starter or a free Charmander->Charizard, or indeed any fire Pokemon ever, this gym is obscenely easy...so easy, they even lampshade it in the dialogue before you battle the leader!
10. I've been constantly overleveled by about 10 levels since the second gym
11. You can avoid most of the trainers in each gym with barely any effort, except for a couple of the gyms where they are impassible/you need to beat them to access the leader, and they are all weak (in Gen I/II I remember having trouble with the trainers - now I don't even bother going back to the Pokemon Center before the leader fight)


I'm sure I could come up with more if I thought about it, but basically it's laughably easy. My rival didn't even have Pokemon that were a threat to me until 70% of the game was through (when her starter finally evolved into its third form), and by that stage I had another Pokemon that rolls hers, which I didn't even have to catch. XD Heck, I fought the Professor not too long ago, and he had three level 70 Pokemon - Blastoise, Charizard, and Venasaur. I beat them with two Pokemon - Blastoise for the Charizard, and my Braixen (starter) for the other two, because fire and PSYBEAM. Frankly I could have taken down the Charizard with Psybeam too, but whatever.

I never played Diamond/Platinum, as I skipped a couple of Gens after like Silver/Gold/Crystal, but it really wouldn't be difficult to be harder than X/Y. Not that it isn't fun, but it's just....not hard. Looking forward to Sun and Moon, though.

[Obdigore]

Silencer, on 29 August 2016 - 08:19 AM, said:

1. Free EXP share very early on
2. Starter Pokemon are OP (I picked the fire-type...it becomes Fire/Psychic and learns Psybeam upon first evolution, the water one becomes Water/Dark, etc)
3. You are given a Gen I starter Pokemon, free of charge, as soon as you reach the central city, about 15% into the game (pick Bulbasaur/Squirtle/Charmander to complement your main)
4. You can catch all sorts of random Pokemon in the first areas, including a Pikachu, rounding out your type roster pretty early on
5. You catch the game's legendary Pokemon in a forced event after the sixth (?) gym - you cannot fail, if you KO it or get wiped, the event starts again, no Master Ball required, even though...
6. You are given a Master Ball and an item worth 30,000 Pokedollars about 50% through the game
7. You are given a free Mega Evolution stone and ring to Mega Evolve your Pokemon about 40% into the game, plus a free Lucario to play with
8. All the gyms are cakewalks - I literally have passed every gym without a single Pokemon KO, essentially only using my main unless I wanted to switch for fun/exp, or in the one gym where my second was way more efficient
9. The last gym, just to give you an example, is an ICE gym. ICE! Naturally with either a fire starter or a free Charmander->Charizard, or indeed any fire Pokemon ever, this gym is obscenely easy...so easy, they even lampshade it in the dialogue before you battle the leader!
10. I've been constantly overleveled by about 10 levels since the second gym
11. You can avoid most of the trainers in each gym with barely any effort, except for a couple of the gyms where they are impassible/you need to beat them to access the leader, and they are all weak (in Gen I/II I remember having trouble with the trainers - now I don't even bother going back to the Pokemon Center before the leader fight)

Let me Answer in order!
1) In Uranium you get an XP share that has to be held by one pokemon (and that is the one to get xp) after your second gym.
2) I don't use my starter pokemon (which was fire/ground) because it has literally no defense and gets 3 shot by random stuff 3-4 levels below it.
3) I've yet to be given a free pokemon in Uranium.
4) So far (I'm at the third gym) the first area is all bug/flying/normal, second area is expands that to include ground/rock/dark/ghost, and third adds beach stuff so water. What is very different is most of the pokemon have 2 types, so it can be tricky knowing what to use against them.
5) Have not gotten here yet.
6) not 50% through the game.
7) Nothing like that yet
8) Gyms aren't too bad here, if you bring the right pokemon (but that is the point, isn't it?).

blah blah blah - what I'm trying to say is that after playing uranium it feels like your pokemon in the other games are a ton stronger compared to everyone else. That isn't the case here, it feels like you are just another trainer. Other trainers are strong, one of the gym leaders kept putting in a mon to put mine to sleep, then switching to a mon with a strong attack, and wailing on me.

Also, the story isn't shit "Oh, we've moved to a new town, time to let my 11 year old daughter go capture sentient beings and make them fight against each other, we totally aren't slavers at aaaalll".

[Malankazooie]

I just finished Inside (which was released to PS4 last week). It's the spiritual successor to Limbo (same developers) which is one of my favorite games of all time.

Holy shit! that took a turn for the bizarre. I'm trying to process what the deeper meaning is. Any you gamers give it a go?

[D'rek]

Maark Abbott, on 26 August 2016 - 02:57 PM, said:

Is it as hard as D'rek suggested? I'm thinking of giving it a go.

Let me put it like this...

Unlike normal pokemon games, your rival picks the starter that has a type disadvantage to you. In my first game, I picked the grass pokemon, and my rival picked the water pokemon. He immediately challenged me to a duel... and I fucking lost with the grass>water advantage!!!

And the professor was a total asshole, all like "gee D'rek, how did you manage to lose that battle even with your type advantage". Well fuck you professor, my grass pokemon doesn't have a goddamn grass attack!


Also, poison lizard-toads EVERYWHERE.

Obdigore, on 26 August 2016 - 05:03 PM, said:

It's certainly harder than the normal pokemon games. I don't know where it falls on the "D'rek Hardness scale", but I suppose it falls somewhere between a softcover Memories of Ice and Channing Tatum's Abs.

I could go for lying on Channing Tatum's abs while reading MoI...


I decided to be a dirty cheater last week and give myself all 3 starters, and that's been a lot of fun. Probably makes things a bit easier for me, but I think that is good compensation for the fact that I can never remember what any of these weird dual type pokemon are supposed to be weak to anyways (Bug and fairy? What? And for that matter can I please have the game show the types in-battle, I can't remember all these!!!) and also having not played the more modern pokemon games much I don't know anything about IVs and EVs and PVs and whatever.

[Aptorian]

Malankazooie, on 31 August 2016 - 02:35 AM, said:

I just finished Inside (which was released to PS4 last week). It's the spiritual successor to Limbo (same developers) which is one of my favorite games of all time.

Holy shit! that took a turn for the bizarre. I'm trying to process what the deeper meaning is. Any you gamers give it a go?

Yes, finally one of you played it.

It's really weird towards the end right?

Spoiler

I assume that thing in enclosure was some kind of alien being or some kind of genetic experiment that went nuts. When I reached it and suddenly I turned into a giant ball of arms and legs I was freaking out.

I can't figure out if the kid the whole time was some kind of clone or drone sent out by the giant ball of flesh. Or if the kid was human and just drawn to the creature via telepathy.

And what was going on with all the other zombie people? And that giant concussive bomb thing? And the water?

I wonder if somebody opened a door into a different dimension and a alien sea flooded the Earth and that big Eldritch God like creature came with it.

This post has been edited by Apt: 31 August 2016 - 03:35 AM

[Morgoth]

So it's out on PS4? I guess I should try it out too

[Malankazooie]

Apt, on 31 August 2016 - 03:34 AM, said:

Malankazooie, on 31 August 2016 - 02:35 AM, said:

I just finished Inside (which was released to PS4 last week). It's the spiritual successor to Limbo (same developers) which is one of my favorite games of all time.

Holy shit! that took a turn for the bizarre. I'm trying to process what the deeper meaning is. Any you gamers give it a go?

Yes, finally one of you played it.

It's really weird towards the end right?

Spoiler

I assume that thing in enclosure was some kind of alien being or some kind of genetic experiment that went nuts. When I reached it and suddenly I turned into a giant ball of arms and legs I was freaking out.

I can't figure out if the kid the whole time was some kind of clone or drone sent out by the giant ball of flesh. Or if the kid was human and just drawn to the creature via telepathy.

Spoiler

I'm leaning towards it being a govt/military experiment gone awry. A worker control project that backfires. Which would explain controlling the "husks" to help you solve puzzles.

As far as the boy, I'm not sure. Maybe he is the son of when of the mad scientist working on the project? Also, wasn't there a "control" theme in Limbo? So maybe somehow Limbo and Inside are actually connected?

And what was going on with all the other zombie people? And that giant concussive bomb thing? And the water?

I wonder if somebody opened a door into a different dimension and a alien sea flooded the Earth and that big Eldritch God like creature came with it.

Yeah, it's one of them moments in in video gaming that will stick with you.

Spoiler

I'm thinking maybe it's a govt./military project that backfires. A program to control workers (husks). The blob of flesh is where the husks are spawned.

Maybe the boy is a son of one of the scientists working on the project? Not sure.

Also, wasn't there a "control" theme in Limbo? Maybe the boy from Limbo has grown a little older and is the same in Inside?