[End of Disc One]

QuickTidal, on 17 May 2011 - 02:28 PM, said:

Tyr, on 17 May 2011 - 02:12 PM, said:

See how great it is when you cut out Lord Snow and the Dany and insert some Bronn instead.

You tread on dangerous ground sir!

Heh in the book I didn't care about Jon's or Dany's parts until ASoS. I just wanted it to get back to the meat of the story at King's Landing. I'm really enjoying the Wall segments in the show though for some reason.

[Garak]

Personally I think Tyrion overshadowed Bronn by bashing in a dude skull with a shield. "A dwarf shield bashed me to dead" is what that guy can brag about in the after life.

[Tyr]

QuickTidal, on 17 May 2011 - 02:28 PM, said:

Tyr, on 17 May 2011 - 02:12 PM, said:

See how great it is when you cut out Lord Snow and the Dany and insert some Bronn instead.

You tread on dangerous ground sir!

????????

Are you insinuating that Dany and Jon are more interesting than King Bronn the first?

Tis' blasphemy.

[QuickTidal]

Tyr, on 17 May 2011 - 03:12 PM, said:

QuickTidal, on 17 May 2011 - 02:28 PM, said:

Tyr, on 17 May 2011 - 02:12 PM, said:

See how great it is when you cut out Lord Snow and the Dany and insert some Bronn instead.

You tread on dangerous ground sir!

????????

Are you insinuating that Dany and Jon are more interesting than King Bronn the first?

Tis' blasphemy.

Jon is more interesting than Bronn.

In fact, Jon could feed Bron his own nutsack.

and Bronn isn't smart enough not to fall for Dany's wiles...she's screw him and then stick a sword in his belly.

[MTS]

Garak, on 17 May 2011 - 02:39 PM, said:

Personally I think Tyrion overshadowed Bronn by bashing in a dude skull with a shield. "A dwarf shield bashed me to dead" is what that guy can brag about in the after life.

Yeah, but

Quote

'They say it's impregnable.'
'Give me ten good men and some climbing sticks and I'll impregnate the bitch.'

stole Tyrion's thunder completely.

[Gothos]

This may be just about Episode Two, but when Arya makes Nymeria run away it really breaks me up inside.

[QuickTidal]

MTS, on 17 May 2011 - 03:18 PM, said:

Garak, on 17 May 2011 - 02:39 PM, said:

Personally I think Tyrion overshadowed Bronn by bashing in a dude skull with a shield. "A dwarf shield bashed me to dead" is what that guy can brag about in the after life.

Yeah, but

Quote

'They say it's impregnable.'
'Give me ten good men and some climbing sticks and I'll impregnate the bitch.'

stole Tyrion's thunder completely.

That was a good line. LOL

[Abyss]

QuickTidal, on 17 May 2011 - 03:28 PM, said:

MTS, on 17 May 2011 - 03:18 PM, said:

Garak, on 17 May 2011 - 02:39 PM, said:

Personally I think Tyrion overshadowed Bronn by bashing in a dude skull with a shield. "A dwarf shield bashed me to dead" is what that guy can brag about in the after life.

Yeah, but

Quote

'They say it's impregnable.'
'Give me ten good men and some climbing sticks and I'll impregnate the bitch.'

stole Tyrion's thunder completely.

That was a pure awesomesauce line. LOL

Fixed.


Altho this exchange...

"You need a woman. A man needs a woman after his first kill."
(Tyrion looks at Cat) "Well, i'm game if she is."


...was pure Tyrion perfection.

[QuickTidal]

MuttonChops, on 16 May 2011 - 01:16 PM, said:

The fiancé handled the killing the horse better than the killing of Lady in ep2. She hasn't said much about the gore as I've finally gotten through that it's not a touchy feely type story. She really likes that the characters are human, I think she's well and truly hooked.

You might want to point your fiance to GRRM's blog a day or two ago where he addressed some unaware peoples upset about Lady's death:

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"It has come to my attention that a number of television viewers (mostly those who had not read my books and did not know what was coming)were shocked and upset by what befell Sansa's direwolf Lady at the end of the second episode of HBO's GAME OF THRONES.

Good. I mean, that was kind of the point.

But some people were reportedly so shocked and upset that they wrote angry blogs about it, and even declared that they would not continue watching the show.

Not so good. Obviously, I'm sorry to hear that.

I don't know if any of those people are reading my Not A Blog. But in case they are, perhaps it will make you feel a little better to know that Zunni, the Northern Inuit who played Lady, is alive and well, and has been adopted by Sophie Turner, the lovely young actress who plays Sansa in the show. We didn't really kill her.

(Rhodri Hosking, the young actor who played the butcher's boy Mycah, was not actually killed either, though oddly, no one seems quite so upset about him).

Real wolves and wolf-hybrids are being killed every day in the real world, however. If you love wolves, and were upset at Lady's death, why not try to help some real wolves?

There's some great folks right in Candy Kitchen, New Mexico who do just that (yes, New Mexico has a Candy Kitchen. We also have a Pietown and a Truth Or Consequences. Three reasons I love this state).

They're called the Wild Spirit Wolf Sancturary, and they rescue wolves and wolf-hybrids. You can learn all about them from their website, here:

http://www.wildspiri...fsanctuary.org/

Years ago, for Christmas, the fans of the Brotherhood Without Banners sponsored a wolf in Parris's name, and made her a "wolf mother."

So shed no tears for Lady... but if you have a spare buck or two, send it to Wild Spirit in her name, and you might help save a real wolf or three."

-GRRM

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[End of Disc One]

Tyrion/Bronn--truly one of the bro-est of bromances.

[Tapper]

End of Disc One, on 17 May 2011 - 06:04 PM, said:

Tyrion/Bronn--truly one of the bro-est of bromances.

Yeah, together, they look a lot like:

[worry]

I think this episode proved that the kid who plays Bran is probably just as good an actor (and perfect fit) as the girl who plays Arya. And it kinda makes sense production-wise to wait as long as possible before getting a kid in to play Rickon. Bad child actors can screw up a lot of what's to come, but they've all been genuinely awesome so far, waaaaaay better than the "competent" I was tentatively ready to settle for.

[QuickTidal]

worrywort, on 17 May 2011 - 06:36 PM, said:

I think this episode proved that the kid who plays Bran is probably just as good an actor (and perfect fit) as the girl who plays Arya. And it kinda makes sense production-wise to wait as long as possible before getting a kid in to play Rickon. Bad child actors can screw up a lot of what's to come, but they've all been genuinely awesome so far, waaaaaay better than the "competent" I was tentatively ready to settle for.

Agreed. This was probably Bran's best scene yet, his bored back and forth with Luwin is really well acted on the kids' part.

[Ceda Cicero]

worrywort, on 17 May 2011 - 06:36 PM, said:

. And it kinda makes sense production-wise to wait as long as possible before getting a kid in to play Rickon.

Don't they have a kid for Rickon? We got one shot of him in the earliest scenes of the first episode, when Arya outshoots Bran at the archery stand during the first scene with the kids. Perhaps that was just a temporary "filler" actor and another one will step in when it's time for Rickon to get more face time, but Idunno.

[worry]

If you mean the kid watching them and laughing, you might be right, but it never occurred to me that it was Rickon. Hmm, and he is standing next to Cat when the king comes too, I just checked. So perhaps that is him! He should be around more.

This post has been edited by worrywort: 17 May 2011 - 08:35 PM

[Battalion]

Just watched it yesterday!!!

I liked the part after the Hound and the Mountain kicked off. Two of the King's Guard blocked the Mountain's retreat with their hands on their sword, till Robert shouts, 'Let 'im go!' Love it.

Also loved the scene where Ned and Robert get to shouting at eachother. It's funny, coz in the book I found myself thinking that Ned was in the right, but when watching this I was thinking, just listen to him, Ned, it makes sense, man.

I agree that Tyrion should have been using an axe in that fight, I was waiting for him to pick it up and start going at it but it never happened.

I also like the way Robert keeps mentioning Tywin so that as a viewer you know he's a badass. In the books there's so much going on you can kind of miss the fact that the Lannister's dad is a seriously powerful man.

The Renly scene SUCKED! Pun intended. Even given the fact that there were only 'slight' undertones of this in the book, I see no need for a homosexual scene of this kind. I would be ample for Littlefinger's comment regarding the pair to be enough for veiwers to make up there mind, or if this is not enough, have him openly say to someone -- anyone --, 'those two are gay.' I'd feel more comfortable with that.

Also, I thought the tournements at the start could have been better. They should have had the scrap so we could have seen thingy with the flaming sword.

[Tyr]

Battalion, on 18 May 2011 - 07:20 AM, said:

I also like the way Robert keeps mentioning Tywin so that as a viewer you know he's a badass. In the books there's so much going on you can kind of miss the fact that the Lannister's dad is a seriously powerful man.

I noticed this too. I also remember when reading the books that Ned made Stannis out to be this demi-god capable of crushing everything in his way - needless to say that I was stunned at how "poor" Stannis turned out to be.

[Ceda Cicero]

Tyr, on 18 May 2011 - 09:27 AM, said:

Battalion, on 18 May 2011 - 07:20 AM, said:

I also like the way Robert keeps mentioning Tywin so that as a viewer you know he's a badass. In the books there's so much going on you can kind of miss the fact that the Lannister's dad is a seriously powerful man.

I noticed this too. I also remember when reading the books that Ned made Stannis out to be this demi-god capable of crushing everything in his way - needless to say that I was stunned at how "poor" Stannis turned out to be.

I recall that coming off much less as Ned's personal view of Stannis, and more circumstantial (ie Stannis represented the most logical solution to the problem of an heir in the event of Joffrey's discrediting and challenging the Lannisters for power.) Also the fact that Stannis was bound up in Jon Arryn's investigation. I don't think Ned revered Stannis on any level, he just saw him as the rightful heir and the most obvious and necessary way of putting things right - there's clearly bad blood there, as Stannis tells us later that "Ned Stark was no friend of mine," since Ned was always closer to Robert than Stannis.

My overall impression was that Ned held the same opinion of Stannis as the vast majority of people (that he was too inflexible, too rigid) - which says a lot, considering Ned has similar leanings - just to a slightly lesser degree than most.

[QuickTidal]

Battalion, on 18 May 2011 - 07:20 AM, said:

Even given the fact that there were only 'slight' undertones of this in the book, I see no need for a homosexual scene of this kind.

See, now why on earth is it cool for there to be umpteen "whore and *insert lord here*" scenes that are used as a way to tell the story, but you aren't cool when it's a gay one?

I dunno, I felt that it was actually a well added scene...as Abyss said upthread it really puts Renly into a different light and the conversation with Loras puts into relief his position in the war of the 5 kings in book/season 2. Who else would convince him he could be king (over his elder brother and his nephew) but his lover Loras? The scene also showcases Renly's feelings about being 4th in line, and how he clearly feels he has no chance which I feel adds depth to him that wasn't there in book 1. His taste in men is blatantly hinted at in the 1st book anyways and revealed for sure in A FEAST FOR CROWS...and when Stannis and Renly parlay midway through book 2 Stannis all but calls him out on it...and then Tyrell goes absolutely batshit (killing two guards and lusting after Brienne's blood as well) when Renly bites it. It actually makes a fair amount of sense to reveal it now, as it will add weight to many things down the line. Just my humble opinion.

and come on...we had a kid with boob juice on his chin in this episode! LOL

[Tapper]

Battalion, on 18 May 2011 - 07:20 AM, said:

The Renly scene SUCKED! Pun intended. Even given the fact that there were only 'slight' undertones of this in the book, I see no need for a homosexual scene of this kind. I would be ample for Littlefinger's comment regarding the pair to be enough for veiwers to make up there mind, or if this is not enough, have him openly say to someone -- anyone --, 'those two are gay.' I'd feel more comfortable with that.

Not to lash out, but this kind of reaction always puzzles me as soon as two males touch in an intimate way on tv. While I can understand people feeling uncomfortable when confronted with boy-on-boy stuff (whether on religious grounds or aesthetic reasons - personally my opinion is that it was really tastefully done), I still doubt many of those who feel uncomfortable (not you per sé, but many) would object if it was girl-on-girl instead.

Heck, seventy percent of the male viewers would probably rewind and watch it again if it was two chicks fondling each other - I think the comments overall on the web for the comparitive scene where Dany receives her how-to-please-Khal-Drogo ride were for 75% jubilant.

Besides all that, there was also story-telling wise a good reason for a Loras-Renly vis-a-vis. There was also some pretty important conversation going on that a Littlefinger/ Renly exchange could not explain, especially if they are going to make something of Renly marching on King's Landing with the Tyrells without wanting to invest too much time in the reasons for the Tyrells backing Renly instead of Stannis.
The plan for Renly's march was explained here in full, and the motivation for it as well, all in a neat little scene.
Not to mention the whole dynamic between Loras and Sansa being set up as impossible from the get-go by what we saw here.