[Path-Shaper]

twelve asks Kalse to pick one of the alliance leaders to watch for the vote.

Barghast, on 17 April 2011 - 08:12 PM, said:

Who are you going to use your ability on to find out who is going to be voted out tonight? I say you should use in on HP or Serc.

twelve talking to D'riss... eager to take control

Barghast, on 17 April 2011 - 08:16 PM, said:

Just to keep you posted. Merrid opened communications with me. He hasn't told me anything yet. So have you forged an alliance with Kalse yet? Or are you now talking to Alkend or are you still connected to Serc? Do you know when we have to have our votes in. I'm over at my folks right now so I probably won't be back on for a number of hours. I have a very good feeling that we will be in control after this vote.

Okaros explains his vote. Really, he has no say whatsoever, but as long as he wins immunity he's OK.

Okaros, on 17 April 2011 - 10:26 PM, said:

You fared too well in the previous challenge, and thus necessity compels me to vote you off. Sorry.

Here Lizra is showing some sympathy to Tapper's situation.

Ruse, on 17 April 2011 - 11:18 PM, said:

Lio is our fifth ally.

I see that you don't wan to vote for Ferner if you are allied to him, but if we don't want to vote between us five, than it has to be either Ferner or Gamelon.
Between these two Ferner seems to be the better option but as they have the same abilities and Gam seems to be contributing better.

But if you want, we can shift our aim to Gam and leave Ferner be for now. We should just decide before we have to vote again.

Interesting... Trull thinks that maybe he can speak w/ people outside of alliances. He is wrong.

Hood, on 18 April 2011 - 12:13 AM, said:

Hey Ano, here's a question. Can you have discussions with other players without forging an alliance with them? <-- this would be very useful, and I'm led to believe it is possible. I was just wondering if your role allows you to do something like this.

HiddenOne is taking the lead from Roldom right now.

Liosan, on 17 April 2011 - 08:29 PM, said:

Gamelon has made an alliance with me. He is not a part of our cabal, correct? I am going to acknowledge him, but make no mention of our existing alliance. Thoughts?

Also, are we getting rid of Fener next?

Karatallid, on 17 April 2011 - 11:38 PM, said:

gamelon has no idea of the allience, so dont mention it to him as we may have to vote him off at one point

I think at the moment we are thinking of going for fener

Karatallid, on 18 April 2011 - 12:28 AM, said:

its time we made a decision on who we are voting of this round. Its a choice of two players, fener and Gamelon. Ironicaly they both have the same abilities so its a popularity contest between the two.

Fener posts the least, but he is also allied with Eloth and on Eloths timezone, which means we should have a measure of influence on him later on. That said if all 5 of us vote the same way we shouldnt need his influence, and if we dont vote him of this round, it will be between him and okaras next time.

Reply to this with your choice, ill do the math and whoever has the vote of at least 3 of the 5 of us we be our target, I will inform everyone of the choice and all 5 of the cadre will be expected to vote for that person.

[Path-Shaper]

Bent to Lizra.

Ruse, on 17 April 2011 - 11:36 PM, said:

Yes, he told me. I said that if he really instist we can change to Gamelon.

But Ferner and Gamelon have both the same abilities, so I would still prefer Ferner as Gamelon seems to participate better.

Btw, you know that Lio is in this alliance group as well, don't you? I'm just checking because Eloth didn't.

Tulas Shorn, on 18 April 2011 - 12:58 AM, said:

yes, I also informed Eloth about Liosan, he is the only one neither I nor apparently Eloth is in contact with.

Karatallid, on 18 April 2011 - 01:13 AM, said:

so far thats 2 votes for fener and none for gamelon, im going to add my vote to make it 3 so fener is our official target.

However i would like you not to mention this to anyone other than myself and ruse (who im about to tell myself) as i would like to see who Liosan and Eloth choose to vore for.

If eloth is really against voting for fener it may well be 4 vs 4, If this happens then they have organised there votes just like we are doing, and are allied against us

my fire abilitie wins tie breaks so im pretty sure id be ok, but im not sure about the rest of u,if its a challenge then ruse can allways grant his boost to the chosen cadre memeber to help him win.

Roldom is a little mistaken here... the fire-making tie-breaker is much later in the game. Right now, it goes to stones.

Ruse, on 18 April 2011 - 01:25 AM, said:

ok.

If there is a tie then it is down to a lucky draw between everyone, isn't it?

I can't change who I boost, so I'm stuck with you there.

Karatallid, on 18 April 2011 - 01:34 AM, said:

really? awesome news for me

my tie break should see me though, but you TS and lio are at risk

But only if all four of them vote for the same person, which is unlikly unless they have grouped just like we have. and if they do all decide to vote for someone, chances are they will vote for me, there are 3 survivalists outside our cabal, and im also a survivalist. from my talks with eloth they may assume that getting rid of me will break up the communication in the group, which they would need to do asap to help them gain control of the tribe.

Aslong as its a fire tie breaker I win automaticaly so im feeling confident, if its anything else I still have your boost to help me win.

Here we have HiddenOne talking with Loki... looking like Loki's in the clear... this time, but will he be able to drum up support to vote off Fener?

Liosan, on 17 April 2011 - 08:32 PM, said:

Aliiances give us the chance to dicuss privately things we might not want to say on the forum, and make plans.

In TC, we need to get rid of someone that duplicates abilities we don't require or who has not really helped much. True enough that regular Mafia practices won't help us here.

At this time, I have't decided who that person is.

Gamelon, on 18 April 2011 - 01:45 AM, said:

At present, the only exact double up is Okaras and myself and obviously I'm not looking to vote myself out

As far as not helping very much, I think Ruse has been the least useful in challenges so far - simply because until their current level up they had nothing that could help the tribe to win. Now they have the ability to add +1 to a team mate but how they use that ability may not be what is best for the whole tribe (i.e. us - since it's our own chances of winning that we need to focus on). Unless, you have an alliance with Ruse at present, then we might want to consider another option.

Loki seems to forget... Okaros has immunity.

Gamelon, on 18 April 2011 - 01:54 AM, said:

Lio is turning into a hard cookie to crack. I think, depending on his other alliances he may favour voting for Ruse but not sure at present.
He said he thinks we should also consider getting rid of someone whose abilities are a duplicate of someone else.....at present the only duplicates are Okaras and me and I'm not willing to vote for myself.

If it seems Lio is not willing to vote for Ruse (i.e. they have an alliance) would you and Eloth be willing to consider Okaras as a possible choice? If we can get 4 votes for a single player that isn't one of us we should (hopefully) be fine.

Vengey is trying to play twelve... and twelve is doing the same thing. This is what makes this game so exciting, to me... the complete subterfuge.

Merrid, on 17 April 2011 - 11:12 PM, said:

In between school work I have a little time for posting. I belong to the same alliance as Serc but am a little higher up then him. A member above me asked if I would just check in on you. See who else your talking to and get your feelings on D'riss.

Barghast, on 18 April 2011 - 03:00 AM, said:

Kalse thinks that I'm in an alliance with him and D'riss. D'riss is Tattersail. D'riss contacted me sometime ealier this week. I saw no need to break it off with either of them. I figure someone should be talking to them. D'riss is all about the team. He wants to vote out the weakest member of the group so we can do better in challenges. You probably know this already as you talk to Alkend a lot but Kalse has aproached him to try and get him to join "our alliance". He has been using some of the things that Serc has been telling us about not trusting Alkend to get him to join us against him.

I'm Twelve by the way (I'm sure you already know that). Nice to finally talk to someone else within the Batstards. I'm trying to see if I can't start to put names to faces. I'm awful at alt guessing players.

Have you heard from Serc at all this weekend? Nobody is telling me anything. I figure we need to vote soon but I have no idea who the team wants to vote off.

When do we need to have our votes in anyway?

And twelve is talking to Kalse about the report.

Barghast, on 18 April 2011 - 03:19 AM, said:

I finally talked to Merrid. Playing a spy is hard. They still haven't told me who they are voting for. Can you give me an update on the Merrid and your level 2 ablility?

[Path-Shaper]

Voting is now open.

Votes (Dureza)

-- None --

Votes (Pensador):

Karatallid (Okaros)

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 18 April 2011 - 03:34 AM

[Path-Shaper]

I'm officially annoyed with Roldom's inattention to detail.

Karatallid, on 18 April 2011 - 04:05 AM, said:

how much more experience is available to me, should i manage to survive to the end?

Path-Shaper, on 18 April 2011 - 02:59 PM, said:

And you get a total of 8 EXP, as the rules say. You've spent 2, so 6 more total (4 after Tribal concludes). You really should read the rules, it covers most situations.

Karatallid, on 18 April 2011 - 04:15 AM, said:

can i put a provisional vote in?

we have decided to as a group to vote for fener

but untill i get eloth and liosans cadre vote it seems wrong for us to put our offical vote in,

Path-Shaper, on 18 April 2011 - 02:58 PM, said:

Roldom, you need to stick to the rules. The rules are very clear about voting. You simply say

Vote XXXX to vote for your target, along with an explanation as to why you voted that person.

I let you put in a provisional during the weekend, and I clearly stated that. Once I ended the break, all votes are final.

I will not accept your vote until you put it in the proper format.

[Path-Shaper]

Roldom scrambling at the last minute.

Karatallid, on 18 April 2011 - 07:14 AM, said:

i was hoping to get a chance to let you put your vote in but it doesnt look like i have time, so far 2 memebers of the group have voted for fener, with three memebers who havent voted yet. Ive decided to add my vote to fener making it 3 votes to fener, 0 for gamelon

Im hoping you would of voted for fener, but as we have a majority already im going to have to ask you to vote for fener

sorry for the lack of organisation,

Karatallid, on 18 April 2011 - 07:17 AM, said:

neither lio or eloth have managed to get back to me, but ive ran out of time to wait, with a 3 vote to 0 majority we have decided to vote for fener

please put your vote in asap

DKT is being honest here... he can't forge alliances with a special ability.

Anomandaris, on 18 April 2011 - 07:26 AM, said:

No i dont think i can... pretty sure i cant

Tapper here having to vote off one of his allies. Looks like he held true to a top-five.

Eloth, on 18 April 2011 - 07:28 AM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 17 April 2011 - 05:23 PM, said:

Just FYI I know you are saying you get a "Morale" bonus to your tribe and alliance, but I don't know if you didn't realize it's a "Rally" bonus or if you are just trying to be sneaky.

Oh, I didn't realize it, but I'll only come with the clarification if we need it Makes keeping me around more worthwhile

vote Fener,

by the by, if I am not too late. I have to do so out of peer pressure from my alliance, not because I want him gone.

And he tells Lizra.

Eloth, on 18 April 2011 - 07:29 AM, said:

I have voted Fener now
Gamelon and Fener were allied, so Fener just told me.

Tapper tells Bent he doesn't know that Fener is the right guy to vote off, but he did it anyway.

Eloth, on 18 April 2011 - 07:30 AM, said:

I've voted Fener now... can't help but feel it is the wrong move, however - Fener is dibs if I am not mistaken, and dibs is a good guy to keep around .

DKT trying to figure out from Serc who to vote for.

Anomandaris, on 18 April 2011 - 07:31 AM, said:

On friday since i hadnt heard from Jeff from Thursday night i put in a request to change my initial upgrade to challenger instead of level 2 genius.

I thought i got lucky with all the forum crashes...turns out it might of been best to leave it!
I thought you and kalse where both upgrading to level 2 ?

So level 1 genius and level 1 challenger for me

Anomandaris, on 18 April 2011 - 07:43 AM, said:

who we gonna vote for?

Its driss or kalse?

Loki on the outs is voting for Ruse... Loki is in a lot of trouble if his tribe loses again. Ruse has done a great job getting himself entrenched in the big alliance.

Gamelon, on 18 April 2011 - 11:13 AM, said:

I vote to have Ruse leave the island.

All members of the tribe bring more to a challenge then Ruse - his only skill that helps the tribe as a whole is his ability to lend +1 to a team mate. Whilst useful, other members bring more to the table.

Due to this, I am voting for Ruse.

Tattersail trying to get the word from D'rek.

D, on 18 April 2011 - 07:26 AM, said:

What would you say to voting Ano? HP? Barghy? None of these made the last 4, and do not seem to do well in tasks, I would prefer not having to vote so if we keep people who are good at challenges then that would be great.

D, on 18 April 2011 - 11:27 AM, said:

We don't have much time left. I'd need your take on things before voting

Liosan voting Fener.

Liosan, on 18 April 2011 - 11:49 AM, said:

Vote Fener

[Path-Shaper]

Bent does NOT agree that keeping Dibs around is a good idea, lol...

Tulas Shorn, on 18 April 2011 - 01:20 PM, said:

I hope Fener is Dibs, like Eloth thinks, lol.

But he said dibs is good to keep around? No, Dibs is like Fener - always voe him off, es dangerous, sorry mate but

This is the end of the line!!

What?

twelve panicking a little here with ansible missing.

Barghast, on 18 April 2011 - 01:22 PM, said:

Hey are you dead man? We are nearing crunch time and I haven't heard from you since Friday/Saturady.

Barghast, on 18 April 2011 - 01:57 PM, said:

Why does Ano think that you didn't level up to level 2?

Dibs is voting Ruse, too... he also asked to get dropped if it's a tie vote (which it won't be).

Fener, on 18 April 2011 - 09:08 AM, said:

vote ruse

Fener, on 18 April 2011 - 09:08 AM, said:

vote ruse

Votes (Dureza)

-- None --

Votes (Pensador):

Karatallid (Okaros)
Fener (Eloth, Liosan, Tulas Shorn)
Ruse (Gamelon, Fener)

Vengeance wants to boot Tattersail and tries to assuage Ment's fears.

Merrid, on 18 April 2011 - 02:55 PM, said:

Ok so I guess that you are hearing some blow back from kalse saying that serc wants you gone. It is bullshit. Serc is trying to keep kalse on the hook. Basically he doesn't realize that everyone knows who is in each alliance...sigh..

I want to send driss home.

[Path-Shaper]

Tattersail and twelve engage in serious dialog about the vote.

D, on 18 April 2011 - 06:08 AM, said:

Well is it decided that we are going to vote for Serc? Or would Anomandaris be a viable option

Barghast, on 18 April 2011 - 06:46 AM, said:

I haven't heard from Kalse all weekend. Hold off on your vote until closer to the deadline. I take it you haven't dropped Serc yet. Anomandaris could be an option. I'm waiting to hear back from Kalse as what he finds out will determine what we do.I'm heading off to bed. Hopefully nothing crazy happens while I'm sleeping.

D, on 18 April 2011 - 07:24 AM, said:

i'll message Serc and see what he thinks of voting Ano and then i'll let you know his answer.

D, on 18 April 2011 - 07:27 AM, said:

Just so you know I wrote this to Serc...

Quote

What would you say to voting Ano? HP? Barghy? None of these made the last 4, and do not seem to do well in tasks, I would prefer not having to vote so if we keep people who are good at challenges then that would be great.

I hope it isn't obvious I am prying but I want to see his thoughts. If he goes ahead with Ano then i'd suggest we all go for Ano, if he protects his followers then we nail the fucker.

Barghast, on 18 April 2011 - 01:17 PM, said:

Actuall that looks like you worded it perfectly. I have been telling them that you are looking to vote out the weakest person for the sake of the tribe so this plays in perfectly with what I've told them about you. Still no word on Kalse. I hope everything is okay.

D, on 18 April 2011 - 02:04 PM, said:

Well we are running out of time, has Kalse been turned? Serc has not got back to me, we have around 1 - 2 hours before vote end and we need to get our votes in.

Barghast, on 18 April 2011 - 02:12 PM, said:

I haven't seen anything from anyone. I also think that we have closer to 5 hours left. If Kalse has been turned then both you and I are screwed. Though I doubt he did. I just think with the forum problems and it being the weekend he just hasn't been around.

D, on 18 April 2011 - 02:30 PM, said:

how long before you're going to vote?

Barghast, on 18 April 2011 - 02:36 PM, said:

Up until the end of TC and later if I have to. I'm not going to vote until I hear back from Kalse. What he finds out will basically tell me what we need to do for this vote. How long are you going to be around? will you be here up until the end of tribal?

What is your level 2 endurance ability? If I survive this vote I'm going to either go up in strength or endurance. And since you already know what it is I was wondering if I should chose what I know versus what I don't.

D, on 18 April 2011 - 02:58 PM, said:

Well I wish I levelled up with challenger or something different tbh. I got +1 End, and level II healthy so I can boost morale too. I also got an advantage to fire tasks if I am one on one with someone who doesn't have a flint whatever that means. How about you, what did you get for levelling up?

Barghast, on 18 April 2011 - 03:02 PM, said:

I chose the Challenger role. I got the +1 strengh plus in group challenges any one other non challenger gets a +1 bonus to their strength as well.. Well I think I'll see what the level 2 challenger role gets

[Path-Shaper]

Tapper resigned to voting dibs.

Eloth, on 18 April 2011 - 07:27 AM, said:

Karatallid, on 18 April 2011 - 07:15 AM, said:

i was hoping to get a chance to let you put your vote in but it doesnt look like i have time, so far 2 memebers of the group have voted for fener, with three memebers who havent voted yet. Ive decided to add my vote to fener making it 3 votes to fener, 0 for gamelon

Im hoping you would of voted for fener, but as we have a majority already im going to have to ask you to vote for fener

sorry for the lack of organisation,

No problems. I'll vote Fener - pity about the bonus, though. Gamelon and Fener were allied, so I'd suggest taking Gamelon out afterwards.

Karatallid, on 18 April 2011 - 09:57 AM, said:

it would be between him and okaras anyway,

plus me okaras and gamelon all have that bonus, and once we hit + 2 it cant be added any more

thanks for voting with us, i know it can be a pain sometimes organising it, and im sorry it took me so long to come up with the voting idea lol

it might be worth thinking about who out of okaras and gamelon you want to get rid of next

Eloth, on 18 April 2011 - 03:06 PM, said:

Karatallid, on 18 April 2011 - 09:57 AM, said:

it would be between him and okaras anyway,

plus me okaras and gamelon all have that bonus, and once we hit + 2 it cant be added any more

thanks for voting with us, i know it can be a pain sometimes organising it, and im sorry it took me so long to come up with the voting idea lol

it might be worth thinking about who out of okaras and gamelon you want to get rid of next

I might want to see if they announced how they upgraded their abilities. PB is often asleep when I am online, so there are very few updates and very few reasons to spend a massive amount of time on-thread beyond superficially scanning the two threads - twould be different were I online during challenge resolution.

Vengey a little bitter he didn't find the idol.

Merrid, on 18 April 2011 - 03:08 PM, said:

Well that is a cocksucker isn't it. Hmm now I know how we keep getting - moral.

Bastards.

Now we get to the crux... Vengey is warning D'rek about the other players.

Merrid, on 18 April 2011 - 03:12 PM, said:

Just a FYI everything that you say to kalse is being passed on to driss barghast and alkend.

I contacted barghast and told him that I was a higher ranked member of GB but not the highest and wanted to know who he was talking to and what they were saying. So that is where alkend is getting the idea that we are looking to cut him out. I told him that you are just stringing them along.
Let's put our foot down and vote out driss.

And now Vengey is telling Barghast who the target is. What will twelve do...

Merrid, on 18 April 2011 - 03:15 PM, said:

I think that we are voting for driss.

I think that ano is tapper. Alkend is mental. I am not to sure who hp and serc are. Newer plays I suspect.

twelve definitely panicking.

Barghast, on 18 April 2011 - 03:24 PM, said:

I'm waiting to hear back from Kalse. Actually I'm waiting to hear back from anybody. I find it crazy and more than a little suspicious that this close to vote time and I have not heard a peep out of anyone other than D'riss and Ano. Leads me to start to think that maybe Kalse really is a part of the Bastards and has been playing me this whole time. I suck at politics. Well he knows that I trust him else why would I show him the idol. If he is part of the bastards I would keep me around for when he needs to make a move.

[Path-Shaper]

Ruse voting for Dibs, too..

Ruse, on 18 April 2011 - 03:29 PM, said:

Vote Ferner

Votes (Dureza)

-- None --

Votes (Pensador):

Karatallid (Okaros)
Fener (Karatallid, Eloth, Liosan, Tulas Shorn, Ruse)
Ruse (Gamelon, Fener)

Anomandaris, on 18 April 2011 - 03:32 PM, said:

ok....im gonna put a provisional in for Kalse.

Ill try and check in with my phone a little later to see if you think we should go another route.

But i gotto head off home now!

cioa

Don't know why twelve is trying to tell this to Vengey if he thinks he's being played.

Barghast, on 18 April 2011 - 03:33 PM, said:

Serc told me that he as a vet and wouldn't tell me who he is. Much like you. I don't know who Kalse is yet.

I'm going to count this.

Anomandaris, on 18 April 2011 - 03:34 PM, said:

Provisional Vote Kalse


If i havent changed/confirmed it by the time your clock runs down then just go with that for me....thnks

Ruse voting for Dibs, too..

Ruse, on 18 April 2011 - 03:29 PM, said:

Vote Ferner

Votes (Dureza)

-- None --

Votes (Pensador):

Anomandaris (Kalse)

Karatallid (Okaros)
Fener (Karatallid, Eloth, Liosan, Tulas Shorn, Ruse)
Ruse (Gamelon, Fener)

twelve finally moving on his plans.

Barghast, on 18 April 2011 - 03:35 PM, said:

Finally I got some info. I still would like to get confirmation from Kalse but it looks like I will be giving D'riss the HII.

Ruse makes it official with a goodbye message.

Ruse, on 18 April 2011 - 03:48 PM, said:

ok, vote Fener

Message: Goodbye.

ansible returns.

Kalse, on 18 April 2011 - 03:40 PM, said:

Hey, sorry. I went out of town yesterday and didn't get back till like 4 am... now I'm back at work.

Alkend has been totally non-responsive, ignored most of what I said about his allies and said stuff like "i just haven't been around. and I'm tired." So I don't know, I don't think I'm getting anywhere with him. Maybe if we open up a second front with D'riss like we said..

Also what's the status with D'riss? Still talking to Serc? If so I'm considering breaking my alliance with him. I guess it doesn't matter much if we end up voting him off, but still. Also, don't D'riss and I need to vote together? If we don't then that's only my vote that goes towards Serc and I don't want to take chances that some other group splinters off and we don't get a plurality.

ansible is also suspcious that Serc and Ano are lying... he's absolutely right!

Kalse, on 18 April 2011 - 03:46 PM, said:

I have no idea why Ano thinks I didn't level to Genius 2... I have a suspicion that perhaps he and Serc are lying about their roles? Not sure though. I'm going to post on thread in a sec.

When you said you talked to Merrid, did you mean Alkend? Did you have to break your alliance with Serc? I think Serc is probably a good choice for the voting ability. Can't imagine he's not voting with the block. Looks like no one has voted yet though. I'll probably aim to have my vote be the last so I can confirm Serc's vote. Who are you voting for? Or who have they told you to vote for? I'm curious who the target is going to be.

twelve is taking a huge risk here... and it could very well be worth the gamble if they pull it off! The idea that the GBs will splinter themselves is very interesting!

Barghast, on 18 April 2011 - 03:48 PM, said:

Actually you have given me a great idea. If you vote HP and D'riss votes Serc and everyone else including me vote for D'riss. I give D'riss the HII he is safe and the Bastards are forced to chose between themselves. You me and D'riss will ultimately decide who we want to vote for on the revote so we can guarantee there is no tie. Or else we can just open up a discusion and the whole group can come to a consensus. That way we will open rifts within the alliance to find out who stands where. What do you think? That way there will definately be someone that knows they are on the bottom and might be more willing to come over to our side.

It's a huge gambe though. If even one of them vote for either you or me then we are done. Let me know if you think it's worth the risk.

[Path-Shaper]

twelve and ansible discuss the plan to let the Gentlemen Bastards cannibalize each other.

Kalse, on 18 April 2011 - 04:01 PM, said:

Hmmm... interesting thought. Strategically I think it's a great move and splitting their alliance is going to be more effective than just voting one of them off. But like you said...risky.

It's probably unlikely, but worst case scenario - they know about my ability to see someone's vote (either through a Follower or another Lvl 2 Genius) and they anticipate who I'm going to use it on. Theoretically they could try to misdirect us that way, but even if they tried it, it's a huge gamble... but with a 5-member alliance maybe they feel like they can get away with it.

I'm torn about the HP/Serc thing. One the one hand if it plays out like we hope then it's a huge victory. On the other, if we miscalculate, they will basically vote us off one by one and the game's over for us. Have you thought more about it?

Barghast, on 18 April 2011 - 04:11 PM, said:

Basically they are most likely going to vote us out 1 by 1 after this "delay" in their plan anyway. It's a bold move and right now we are already on the bottom. If the bold move doesn't pay off we are still on the bottom. If it works then we have improved our standing.

I think that you should select HP to use your ability on as neither you or I have talked to him at all. They probably are not expecting a HII to blow up their plan anyway so they probably don't care that you can find who they vote for anyway.

[Path-Shaper]

twelve is discussing the pitfalls of splitting votes.

Barghast, on 18 April 2011 - 04:23 PM, said:

But I see where you are coming from. If you think they are on to us then if I vote D'riss and two others from their alliance vote D'riss and then 3 other vote for either you or me then there would be a tie would be between D'riss and one of us. Then one of us would go home. The only way around that would be if I switched to say Serc and then that would be two on D'riss three on me or you and three on Serc. Then on the revote they all vote out either you or me. So you can see, if they are on to us even if we all three vote together there is still a chance that they could force a tie and one of us go home.

But there is always a chance that one from their alliance doesn't vote with the tribe and if you and D'riss each vote for someone different then there would be a three way tie with one of us not able to vote. So you are probably right that both you and D'riss should vote the same.

I'm just thinking if we have the balls to split yours and D'risses vote then that would cause all kinds of rifts between their group.

I'll leave this up to you. When should I tell D'riss about the idol?

HiddenOne is slightly confused by the vote.

Liosan, on 18 April 2011 - 04:30 PM, said:

Looks like we have a counter-Alliance, or someone is not going our way.

[Path-Shaper]

DKT will have to wait for Serc's response.

Anomandaris, on 18 April 2011 - 04:36 PM, said:

ok i am using my phone to monitor everything and will vote properly when i get an answer from serc. Its painfully slow but i should be able to manage.

He asks Trull what the word is.

Anomandaris, on 18 April 2011 - 04:47 PM, said:

So im thinking of putting my vote on Driss. Whats the word around the camp fire?

Looks like we may have a vote.

Alkend, on 18 April 2011 - 04:50 PM, said:

Vote D'riss

THat seems to be the consensus

Votes (Dureza)

D'riss (Alkend)

[Path-Shaper]

Dibs's final words. Not sure I agree that Fener was automatically doomed. He was just late getting into an alliance of any kind.

Fener, on 18 April 2011 - 05:05 PM, said:

nah never really got involved mate. with only a popularity contest to go on fener was never gonna win

[Path-Shaper]

Ment's just goin' w/ the flow.

Alkend, on 18 April 2011 - 05:09 PM, said:

Yeah, farewell msg will be fairly short: "this seems what the majority wants though I could be wrong. Nothing personal"



unfortunately, today's a really bad day for me, b/c i've been sleep deprived, and I have a final, and work, and another final in 2 days. so i'm running around like a gerbil on crack, but prone to sudden shutdowns as if my brain is running windows ME

I'm gonna be really sad if D'rek has to leave early... She's such a good player. But I can't interfere with the game.

Serc, on 18 April 2011 - 05:11 PM, said:

I would like to go looking for the individual immunity idol next change I get, please!

(With my TC morale resistance and Survivalists bumping the morale up I won't suffer much even if I don't find it and get -2 morale)

Path-Shaper, on 18 April 2011 - 05:17 PM, said:

Done. Normally I would wait until the phase ends, but since we're at the end of the phase, I'll resolve now.

You search and you search and you search, but you cannot find the immunity idol. You suffer a -2 Morale penalty.

Ment tells Vengey that D'riss was the vote.

Alkend, on 18 April 2011 - 05:12 PM, said:

yeah, I voted him. not gonna be around much today.

Serc agreeing that D'riss is the way to go.

Serc, on 18 April 2011 - 05:15 PM, said:

Merrid and me both think we should vote out D'riss - Kalse's INT is more important than D'riss' END and D'riss really ain't giving the tribe much on-thread either. Haven't heard HP or Alkend's opinions yet. What do you think?

Serc, on 18 April 2011 - 05:16 PM, said:

Looks like we're voting D'riss (reasoning: he's not as useful as Kalse and is hiding himself more).

Serc, on 18 April 2011 - 05:17 PM, said:

Merrid and me think we should vote D'riss, since Kalse is more useful to us and D'riss keeps trying to keep himself hidden. Thoughts?

[Path-Shaper]

Ment's just goin' w/ the flow.

Alkend, on 18 April 2011 - 05:09 PM, said:

Yeah, farewell msg will be fairly short: "this seems what the majority wants though I could be wrong. Nothing personal"



unfortunately, today's a really bad day for me, b/c i've been sleep deprived, and I have a final, and work, and another final in 2 days. so i'm running around like a gerbil on crack, but prone to sudden shutdowns as if my brain is running windows ME

I'm gonna be really sad if D'rek has to leave early... She's such a good player. But I can't interfere with the game.

Serc, on 18 April 2011 - 05:11 PM, said:

I would like to go looking for the individual immunity idol next change I get, please!

(With my TC morale resistance and Survivalists bumping the morale up I won't suffer much even if I don't find it and get -2 morale)

Path-Shaper, on 18 April 2011 - 05:17 PM, said:

Done. Normally I would wait until the phase ends, but since we're at the end of the phase, I'll resolve now.

You search and you search and you search, but you cannot find the immunity idol. You suffer a -2 Morale penalty.

Ment tells Vengey that D'riss was the vote.

Alkend, on 18 April 2011 - 05:12 PM, said:

yeah, I voted him. not gonna be around much today.

Serc agreeing that D'riss is the way to go.

Serc, on 18 April 2011 - 05:15 PM, said:

Merrid and me both think we should vote out D'riss - Kalse's INT is more important than D'riss' END and D'riss really ain't giving the tribe much on-thread either. Haven't heard HP or Alkend's opinions yet. What do you think?

Serc, on 18 April 2011 - 05:16 PM, said:

Looks like we're voting D'riss (reasoning: he's not as useful as Kalse and is hiding himself more).

Serc, on 18 April 2011 - 05:17 PM, said:

Merrid and me think we should vote D'riss, since Kalse is more useful to us and D'riss keeps trying to keep himself hidden. Thoughts?

[Path-Shaper]

Vengey says he's going to vote D'riss, as well... will this be the last time he talks to D'rek?!

Merrid, on 18 April 2011 - 05:22 PM, said:

Alkend has already voted for driss. I hope that ano did too. Anyway I am going to vote for driss and get out of here. I will check in every so often If you reply back.

Serc, on 18 April 2011 - 05:26 PM, said:

re fire building - huh, weird, it's like its own separate skill. I guess we'll start seeing it in challenges soon then.

re Pensadors - it's hard to judge from random hints in scenes, but I get that vibe, too. I was really surprised to see them vote out Shadow. We can only guess what's going on in their thread, but Shinrei's not usually the type to expose himself and he seemed like their resident uber-Genius. Could be that they do have one big alliance like us and Shin was the most threatening Pensador outside it.

re Kalse - I wasn't aware of any other connections he had with people, but I've got an unaccounted-for possible connection that Barghast could have made. If Kalse has been relaying to those three then I guess Barghast connected to him. D'riss connected to Bargy a while ago so that's how it's getting to D'riss, but how is Alkend getting it? Did he connect to D'riss or Bargy (or Kalse)? Having him connect to Ano is a good idea if he's getting paranoid.

re voting D'riss - sounds good to me, Kalse is a lot more useful in challenges and D'riss keeps trying to hold stuff back from the tribe. I'll pass word along to Ano, HP and Barghast. Let's wait a little bit until they reply. If we all end up voting together at the end we can easily justify it as that we waited until the timer was almost out.

He says the same to twelve... how will this come back to bite them?

Merrid, on 18 April 2011 - 05:24 PM, said:

I am voting for driss. Later

[Path-Shaper]

DKT seems fine voting D'riss

Anomandaris, on 18 April 2011 - 05:29 PM, said:

Like i said in my previous post. Finding out that kalse leveled up has changed my mind on voting him. Which leaves D'riss as the obvious choice. Fine by me.

Anomandaris, on 18 April 2011 - 05:31 PM, said:

Im gonna go ahead and lay down my vote then.

Serc, on 18 April 2011 - 05:33 PM, said:

Alright, looks like we're decided then. I'm not sure Alkend got the word or not before he voted, but we have plenty of votes either way.

D'rek is sad she didn't find the idol... she may be really sad in a minute here.

Serc, on 18 April 2011 - 05:31 PM, said:

Awwwwwww, I feel abysmal...

ansible wants to push the chips into the middle right now! He's lucky that DKT's vote will ultimately land on D'riss because I believe this plan will actually work!

Kalse, on 18 April 2011 - 05:33 PM, said:

Alright, I think you've convinced me. Let's split our votes between HP and Serc and see what happens. D'riss votes for Serc, I'll vote for HP. I think we're definitely at a tipping point as far as power balance in our tribe and now is pretty much our only opportunity to take advantage of it. I'm guessing that they probably won't split their voting block just because it's too dangerous. We've been trying to pry gaps in their alliances through Merrid and Alkend but nothing seems to be getting any response. If anything, I imagine they are more united against us now that a few of the weaker members have rejected our offers to join us. I also think it's definitely true that once they realize we have some power and turn the tables on them, a couple members might be more likely to flock to us. Even if they don't, though, we'll still be in the same position we were if we had just voted one of their members off directly instead of splitting the vote - 3 of us and 4 of them.

So let's do it. With any luck our plan will catch them off-guard and making them choose between voting Serc or HP will just be priceless.

As for D'riss and the idol, I almost think we should wait until I can confirm that they are voting for D'riss. Not only just to minimize the chances of being betrayed, but also to make sure we counter the vote correctly. That will require D'riss to be on the ball though during the end of TC - he'll need to use the idol at the right time to make it count. I'll try to hold off with my vote until we know everything is in motion.

D'rek lies to Tattersail... oh boy, her words may become prophetic if it goes down and she's tied w/ Hood's Path!

Serc, on 18 April 2011 - 05:35 PM, said:

Ano's super valuable as the only level 2 genius. Bargy and HP are both Survivalist/Challenger hybrids so in theory should do just as well at challenges, but Bargy's more active which for now is a good thing, so I'll probably vote HP.

Will there be more of these conversations between Vengey and D'rek? Also, LOL at Kalse being alone... whoo boy.

Serc, on 18 April 2011 - 05:33 PM, said:

Hmm, Alk just voted. Any chance he got word to vote D'riss before he did (or voted D'riss anyways?)?

Merrid, on 18 April 2011 - 05:37 PM, said:

I think that kalse connected to alkend. Barghast probably branched out. None of it matters as of tonights vote kalse will know that he is alone. Expect to see him become either really desperate or totally cut people off.

One thing that I am a little worried about is we are losing a moral boost. If we take a moral hit that could hurt down the line. But right now we need kalse int more then driss moral boost.

DKT's vote for D'riss comes in.

Anomandaris, on 18 April 2011 - 05:37 PM, said:

Vote D'riss

Votes (Dureza)

D'riss (Alkend, Anomandaris)

Vengey's asking for a hold from Barghast... this will play perfectly into twelve's hands.

Merrid, on 18 April 2011 - 05:40 PM, said:

Hey serc wants us to hold off voting till a little bit before the end of time.

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 18 April 2011 - 05:41 PM

[Path-Shaper]

twelve not sure when he's gonna tell D'riss. News Flash, your running out of time, pal.

Barghast, on 18 April 2011 - 05:49 PM, said:

But should I tell him that I have the idol right now?

Twelve isn't sure what's going on with the vote, with Vengey.

Barghast, on 18 April 2011 - 05:51 PM, said:

so don't vote D'riss right now? Why?

Will D'rek do something drastic that may end up getting her voted off? Or will it screw with the plans of Kalse and Barghast?

Serc, on 18 April 2011 - 05:54 PM, said:

Well we still have 3 survivalists, if they all use their morale boost tomorrow we should all be at +2 morale (or if someone is somehow at -2 they'll still be at +1). If we know for sure we've got 5 votes in maybe we should have our 6th be someone else just to make Kalse think it's not all against him? Don't want him to be despairing and perhaps do some suicidal sabotage...

ansible thinks giving Tattersail some assurance is a good idea.

Kalse, on 18 April 2011 - 05:57 PM, said:

Hm...does he know that he is going to be the target of tonight's vote? Or how does he think TC is going to play out? If he already knows that he's the target and he's still with us, then maybe you should tell him you have the idol so he doesn't panic or anything. The only reason it would be good to wait though is if it's possible he could betray the info to Serc in a grab for some power. Maybe the best option is to get him to break alliance with Serc and contact me? Then we would know he is on our side for sure and we don't have to worry about what he's telling Serc. What do you think?

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 18 April 2011 - 05:59 PM

[Path-Shaper]

twelve is starting to give some information to Tattersail.

Barghast, on 18 April 2011 - 06:00 PM, said:

You still around? I got pulled away. We are waiting on the resolution of Kalses ablilty. I've got some bad news It looks like both Serc and Merrid told me that they are going to vote for you. But don't worry we feel very confidant that we can save you. Once Kalse gets his info I'll tell you the whole plan and leave nothing out. It is very important though that you are around through the resoultion of tribal. Otherwise our plan will fail. Can you stick around?

D'reks vote is in on D'riss.

Serc, on 18 April 2011 - 06:08 PM, said:

D'riss, the Gentlemen Bastards have spoken. And snatched your wallet.

Votes (Dureza)

D'riss (Alkend, Anomandaris, Serc)

Now THIS could get very interesting... especially if it's a 1:1 split and HP is one of the votes... then it's like "obvious" D'riss was lied to. Hrm hrm hrm!

D, on 18 April 2011 - 06:12 PM, said:

ok i'll go wid dat

He immediately spills the beans to twelve.

D, on 18 April 2011 - 06:13 PM, said:

yes, serc just said he is voting for HP

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 18 April 2011 - 06:15 PM

[Path-Shaper]

Vengey seems OK with splitting votes.

Merrid, on 18 April 2011 - 06:31 PM, said:

So who is kalse and driss voting for? If we have a vote on someone else he won't know what to do.... he will think he has an ally but that it isn't someone who he is in contact with.

ansible suggests D'rek push the Leader role.

Kalse, on 18 April 2011 - 06:32 PM, said:

Well, I have to say I'm surprised that I'm the only one who went Level 2 for INT. Seems pretty odd for Anomander to go Challenger unless he's thinking individual role balance; we have at least 2 or 3 other people who went for STR after END, which seems to be a better combo than STR/INT. Do you think you're planning to go Leader again next time? I can't help but think there have to be some big pluses for the tribe in the Leader role; Level 1 is probably just the tip of the iceberg.

Gasp! It looks like twelve is going to play it safe since Vengey's plan is to split votes... Vengey may have saved D'rek in doing so.

Barghast, on 18 April 2011 - 06:41 PM, said:

Plans off. Merrid just told me that they are thinking of having one of their own vote with you. We will just have to vote out HP as that is who I told them both you and D'riss will vote for.

Merrid, on 18 April 2011 - 06:34 PM, said:

Cause we don't want kalse to suddenly realize that he is alone and do something rash. We are talking about having one vote on someone else. Do you know who k and d want to vote off.

Barghast, on 18 April 2011 - 06:38 PM, said:

It's looking like Kalse wants HP and D'riss was told by Serc to vote HP. So it looks like there will be two votes for HP.

Merrid, on 18 April 2011 - 06:42 PM, said:

Hat go ahead and vote. If kalse flips out we can deal with it.

twelve is officially going in!

Barghast, on 18 April 2011 - 06:48 PM, said:

Give D'riss Hidden Immunity Idol

Lets see how this plays out.

Barghast, on 18 April 2011 - 06:48 PM, said:

Vote D'riss

And the plan is revealed to Tattersail.

D, on 18 April 2011 - 06:27 PM, said:

times running out. What do you think?

Barghast, on 18 April 2011 - 06:34 PM, said:

Okay hopefully you will believe that I"m 100% on your side after I tell you this. I talked it over with Kalse and we agree that it's time to let you in on the full plan. This being mafia, paranoia reigns supreme so we were holding some of our cards close to the vest. We are planning on flipping this whole tribe. Kalse couldn't make any headway with Merrid or Alkend. So that means that you me and Kalse would have been 1, 2, 3 to go. Normally we would be screwed but we have an ace up our sleeve. We have the hidden immunity idol. Once Kalse is able to verify who is getting voted out that person will be given the Hidden idol and they will then use it. That is why you need to be around for the vote. Now this is the part that gets good. I just thought of it this morning.

I would vote with the group and vote you or whoever it is that is headed home. You would vote for Serc, and Kalse would vote for HP. The majority of players would vote for you (most likely) but they wouldn't count. Both Serc and HP would have one vote each and cause a tie. That would create a revote where everyone would have to vote for either HP or Serc. That would force the big alliance to have to chose between two of their own. This would force them to reevaluate who they can trust and who they can't hopefully creating room where we can steal one of their members thus being down 3-4 to being up 4-3. It's a very risky move because if just one of them vote for eiither me or Kalse (assuming you are the one to get the idol) then it would casue a three way tie and either Kalse or I will go home. But like I told Kalse we are the next to go home anyway unless we do something to change our fates. What do you think?

Tattersail is a little clueless.

D, on 18 April 2011 - 06:40 PM, said:

Right what you say makes no sense. If you vote for me, and Serc votes for me, and Merrid votes for me, and Alkend, ano etc vote for me then i'll have the most votes.

Now. I want to be part of the group with you and kalse but I feel like you are playing me here. Explain how you think we will off Serc?

D, on 18 April 2011 - 06:43 PM, said:

How will kalse find out who is being voted?

Barghast, on 18 April 2011 - 06:43 PM, said:

No you won't I will have given you the idol and those votes won't count. Anyway the plan has changed. You have to vote HP as they are planning on having one of their own vote with Kalse. No splitting of the votes. I'm still waiting on confirmation from Kalse.

Barghast, on 18 April 2011 - 06:44 PM, said:

His ablility of level 2 will tell him who someone votes for.

Barghast, on 18 April 2011 - 06:47 PM, said:

I can't wait anymore. I have to leave. I'm going to give you the idol. When you get it play it. Vote for HP. Ater the fall out we have to be smart on what info we reveal as this could get messy.

D, on 18 April 2011 - 06:48 PM, said:

Are you voting for HP? I will do. And i'm your man all the way through now.

Barghast, on 18 April 2011 - 06:50 PM, said:

No I'm voting for you. I'm hoping that I will still have my in with the other so we can have some inside info. You and Kalse will be the only ones to vote HP. That will be enough.

D, on 18 April 2011 - 06:52 PM, said:

Okay

D, on 18 April 2011 - 06:53 PM, said:

How do you pass the idol?

D, on 18 April 2011 - 06:54 PM, said:

Who is Kalse waiting for? What if we voted for Serc?