[Liosan]

wow, log back on and 3 people followed my vote in quick succession. tha'ts...interesting.

Of the votes. Kalse's is pretty iffy... (see what I did there?)

I am ok with Merrid's vote.

Gaylord's vote seems like something I made him do. I wasn't pushing for a Omtose vote... just that votes are a good thing.


Another interesting thing is the Korabas vote on Kalse. While Idon't disagree with the principal of the vote... it looks somewhat like deflecting. But, truth be told, after that deluge of Omtose votes, any non Omtose vote would look like deflection. So i am willing to let that go.

[Liosan]

Barghast, on 16 March 2011 - 10:55 PM, said:

By contrast, Kalse's posts look fairly consistent... he is spamming on Day 1, settles on Merrid for a vote (is against the Fener vote, I believe). He agree's with Omtose's early vote... but now he's on Omtose's butt. He only mentioned Korabas once, for the same reason I posted above... Korabas indicated he wanted to vote but didn't do so.

Where are you leaning at the moment? I am not married to my Omtose vote, and he HAS been consistent with his post time, but I am not seeing much else as vote worthy from others...

[Hood's Path]

OK, I'm here. Had an evil 12 hour shift at work that has zapped my mind & will. Let me read up on the last couple pages.

[Korabas]

This is a brutal week for me. I was very hesitant to play in this game. In retrospect if I had known how busy I was going to be I would have passed. But I didn't so I am trying to read up and post when I can. As for basing people's defense on some kind of posting consistency I feel that thinking like that is indicative of a small mind.

As for deflecting I think that I would have to be on and posting a lot more to be doing any deflecting. I feel that there is some railroading going on. I also love how I voted for Kalse, and Barghast come up and attacked me. Well if that isn't the definition of what a symp is suppose to do for a master then I don't know it. After Barghast's posts I feel more confident. After all Kalse had been on and replied to my vote. Why does Barghast need to come on and both attack me and defend him.


Anyway off for a bit.

[Liosan]

@Korabas-

Not sure why Kalse would need to be defended after 1 vote. Especially when the vote count at the time of his "Defense" was 4 vs 1 vs 1

[Hood's Path]

Kalse, on 16 March 2011 - 09:03 AM, said:

I'll hold my vote for a little while, but yours does make sense, Omtose.


Dunno what to make of the reactions after the lynching. Did they react that way simply because we lost a roled player that could have provided some awesomeness to the game, or because they are all Syndicate people and just killed off the leader of the team? Or is everything a lie? Even the cake?!


I has a suspicious.

Kalse, on 16 March 2011 - 10:32 AM, said:

Unless Omtose knows something about Ampelas that we don't...Perhaps Omtose is an Agent of Doom, and now that he's gotten rid of the Syndicate leader he plans to pick off the rest one by one?!!



Gaaaaaaaaaaaahhh, too.much.pressure!

Kalse is all over the place about Omtose, agreeing with him, then suspicious an hour later, and so forth a while until he finally follows Liosan to vote for Omtose.

[Hood's Path]

Rashan, on 16 March 2011 - 02:27 PM, said:

Korabas, on 16 March 2011 - 11:43 AM, said:

Ok I'm here for all of one minute. I can't say to much about the fener lynch other then what has already been said. I didn't figure that Fener was D'rek, although if I remember right she said that she didn't really have time to play. But the lack of any defense from her or from anyone else. I suppose that at least one person would have known who she was. But I could be mistaken. When i get time I am going to look at the train. Right now agree with Omtose that GL is acting like a symp. I am just not sure for whom yet.

The Madame was a syndicate player, I thought only scum symps know someone who is on their team in a town versus scum game. Why do you think that possibly someone on the syndicate team would know who she was?

Good question, Rashan. Is he trying to suggest there's a Finder, maybe he's one (don't think he voted for Fener), or is he scum trying to make us think that so we leave him alone? He's pretty low-posting, though he's explained it I think

[Hood's Path]

Rashan, on 16 March 2011 - 02:36 PM, said:

I'll have to look back on the train. I completely missed the whole sympage thing by GL. Though this whole game GL has been putting up strange posts. I'm not sure if he is trying to put up code for people to figure out but it sure seems like it. Obviously I haven't cracked it yet but as soon as I do I'll let everyone know.

I missed it too, but I'm going to look at it some more.


The GL thing is bothering me. He started the game babbling, throwing what seems to be code. Those capitals made me look, but maybe he's jerking our chain. Spam city? Suddenly, he kicked it up a few notches when he got serious.

[Hood's Path]

Galayn Lord, on 16 March 2011 - 04:37 PM, said:

If you are going to look back at the beginning of the train, the relevant posts for it's initiation are between #130(ish)-143

To summarize: At the behest of Liosan to end the ongoing spam and actually start doing some mafia stuff, I asked Amp, who was spamming with me at that time, if he wanted to help vote out one of the 3 players who had not yet posted before they could do so (Omtose, Fener, and Rashan). Amp decided on Fener, and, since this was at my behest and it was only day 1, Fener was about as good a choice as Omtose or Rashan would have been, plus there was actually some justification, admittedly flimsy for an actual lynch, but for a joke vote entirely sufficient, for voting Fener due to the alt's past history (which has already been discussed at length). Very shortly thereafter, Osseric joins in and votes Fener, as does HP not long after that.

So, while Omtose has clearly decided this is an act of sympage, all I have to say is that it wasn't, for reasons that should be extremely obvious to anyone reading through those aforementioned posts. I mean, why the hell would I not go along with the joke vote that I helped instigate?

Anyways, I could potentially get behind an Amp vote, though not because of this perceived sympage (or the lack thereof), but rather due to him being the one to suggest we vote Fener out, though the day is still young...

Sure, I see you defend the lynch, and it works for me, but you say you want to vote Amp because he suggested Fener? That makes no sense to me. You were a part of that mess too. You're trying to get behind him because Omtose is pushing beacuse of that silly Day 1 lynch that we all agree was a monumental screw-up. That seems scummy to me.

[Galayn Lord]

Liosan, on 17 March 2011 - 12:34 AM, said:

wow, log back on and 3 people followed my vote in quick succession. tha'ts...interesting.

Of the votes. Kalse's is pretty iffy... (see what I did there?)

I am ok with Merrid's vote.

Gaylord's vote seems like something I made him do. I wasn't pushing for a Omtose vote... just that votes are a good thing.


Another interesting thing is the Korabas vote on Kalse. While Idon't disagree with the principal of the vote... it looks somewhat like deflecting. But, truth be told, after that deluge of Omtose votes, any non Omtose vote would look like deflection. So i am willing to let that go.

Yeah, I was in a bit of a rush at the time and, as your point about withholding my vote was quite reasonable, I just sort of voted for the first logical person I could think of, which, as I had just finished reading your posts, was of course Omtose, though I had no intention of contributing to an Omtose lynch-train.

Nonethless, I'll stick with it for the moment, though Kalse is looking increasingly suspect. Looking back, I'm also starting to wonder about Ruse. He hasn't really contributed much, and he was also the very last person to jump on the Fener train, providing the unnecessary 8th vote...

[Korabas]

Liosan, on 17 March 2011 - 01:21 AM, said:

@Korabas-

Not sure why Kalse would need to be defended after 1 vote. Especially when the vote count at the time of his "Defense" was 4 vs 1 vs 1

Exactly but look at Barghast's posts. Those are classic attack and defense.

[Omtose]

Im trying to think about what ruse has wrote and nothing springs to mind

I dont think ruse has made any waves....(see what i did there? )

[Galayn Lord]

Hood, on 17 March 2011 - 01:57 AM, said:

Galayn Lord, on 16 March 2011 - 04:37 PM, said:

If you are going to look back at the beginning of the train, the relevant posts for it's initiation are between #130(ish)-143

To summarize: At the behest of Liosan to end the ongoing spam and actually start doing some mafia stuff, I asked Amp, who was spamming with me at that time, if he wanted to help vote out one of the 3 players who had not yet posted before they could do so (Omtose, Fener, and Rashan). Amp decided on Fener, and, since this was at my behest and it was only day 1, Fener was about as good a choice as Omtose or Rashan would have been, plus there was actually some justification, admittedly flimsy for an actual lynch, but for a joke vote entirely sufficient, for voting Fener due to the alt's past history (which has already been discussed at length). Very shortly thereafter, Osseric joins in and votes Fener, as does HP not long after that.

So, while Omtose has clearly decided this is an act of sympage, all I have to say is that it wasn't, for reasons that should be extremely obvious to anyone reading through those aforementioned posts. I mean, why the hell would I not go along with the joke vote that I helped instigate?

Anyways, I could potentially get behind an Amp vote, though not because of this perceived sympage (or the lack thereof), but rather due to him being the one to suggest we vote Fener out, though the day is still young...

Sure, I see you defend the lynch, and it works for me, but you say you want to vote Amp because he suggested Fener? That makes no sense to me. You were a part of that mess too. You're trying to get behind him because Omtose is pushing beacuse of that silly Day 1 lynch that we all agree was a monumental screw-up. That seems scummy to me.

To be clear, I never said I wanted to vote Amp. I just said that I could "potentially" get behind (not that I necessarily would), or at least understand a vote on those grounds, so long as it was not due to my perceived "symping" of him.

Edit: rephrase

This post has been edited by Galayn Lord: 17 March 2011 - 02:04 AM

[Galayn Lord]

Omtose, on 17 March 2011 - 02:00 AM, said:

Im trying to think about what ruse has wrote and nothing springs to mind

I dont think ruse has made any waves....(see what i did there? )

Lol. That's exactly my point. Seems likes he's trying a bit too hard to fly under the radar, only voting for Fener after the first 7 of us already had, so he wouldn't stand out as not being part of the train.

[Korabas]

Ok so this post is a classic attack post. Here he goes summarizing what I have done so far this game. I have seen people do this a thousand times and for some reason it works time and time again. I still don't understand why. It isn't contributing to anything. If someone want's to know what someone posted they can go and look. No this is a perfect example of attacking while looking like you are not.

Barghast, on 16 March 2011 - 10:52 PM, said:

Korabas doesn't have many posts and most of them were from the Day 1 spam. He does seem to have a general dislike of GL, though.

Korabas, on 14 March 2011 - 04:45 PM, said:

Galayn Lord, on 14 March 2011 - 04:09 PM, said:

I go out walkin'
After midnight
Out in Malaysia
Just like we used to do...

Doesn't this post just scream. This isn't a code don't look at this.

He indicated he might vote for Fener on Day 1 but missed voting entirely. He came on long after the lynch.

Korabas, on 15 March 2011 - 02:31 PM, said:

If it is more possible for a thread to degenerate to less then spam. This thread has done it. I think that we should all give our selves a round of applause.

Now we don't have anything resembling a defense from Fener so I will most likely vote for him in a few hours.

Again, focuses onto GL.

Korabas, on 16 March 2011 - 11:43 AM, said:

Ok I'm here for all of one minute. I can't say to much about the fener lynch other then what has already been said. I didn't figure that Fener was D'rek, although if I remember right she said that she didn't really have time to play. But the lack of any defense from her or from anyone else. I suppose that at least one person would have known who she was. But I could be mistaken. When i get time I am going to look at the train. Right now agree with Omtose that GL is acting like a symp. I am just not sure for whom yet.

Now while you might have been able to ignore the first post he follows it up with this gem. Which is a defense post. No quotes just a quick summary. By saying contrast he is trying to say that Kalse is playing well and doesn't deserve any attention but that I am odd and should be looked at as a possible lynch later on in the game. This is such a classic move I can't believe it. Which makes me think that it is being done by a player who has played in a couple of games but not enough to know when they need to stop.

Barghast, on 16 March 2011 - 10:55 PM, said:

By contrast, Kalse's posts look fairly consistent... he is spamming on Day 1, settles on Merrid for a vote (is against the Fener vote, I believe). He agree's with Omtose's early vote... but now he's on Omtose's butt. He only mentioned Korabas once, for the same reason I posted above... Korabas indicated he wanted to vote but didn't do so.

Really if it wasn't for the second post I probably would have removed my vote off of Kalse. But to have someone come on and both attack and defend after only one vote. That screams suspicious to me. Which makes me think that I was actually one to something when I voted for Kalse.

Kalse did a good job of deflecting my vote. Cause he knows that one vote is usually just fishing.


Edited to change He to Kalse.

This post has been edited by Korabas: 17 March 2011 - 02:11 AM

[Korabas]

Hood, on 17 March 2011 - 01:46 AM, said:

Rashan, on 16 March 2011 - 02:27 PM, said:

Korabas, on 16 March 2011 - 11:43 AM, said:

Ok I'm here for all of one minute. I can't say to much about the fener lynch other then what has already been said. I didn't figure that Fener was D'rek, although if I remember right she said that she didn't really have time to play. But the lack of any defense from her or from anyone else. I suppose that at least one person would have known who she was. But I could be mistaken. When i get time I am going to look at the train. Right now agree with Omtose that GL is acting like a symp. I am just not sure for whom yet.

The Madame was a syndicate player, I thought only scum symps know someone who is on their team in a town versus scum game. Why do you think that possibly someone on the syndicate team would know who she was?

Good question, Rashan. Is he trying to suggest there's a Finder, maybe he's one (don't think he voted for Fener), or is he scum trying to make us think that so we leave him alone? He's pretty low-posting, though he's explained it I think

See below specifically the underlined part.

Korabas, on 16 March 2011 - 07:35 PM, said:

Well I still have no time to do this. But it looks like votes are starting to get tossed around all over the place.

To whom ever asked why I thought that Fener might have been known. I have no knowledge of anybody. But it seemed to me that such an important reoccurring character might have been known by her second or something. It does not seem out of this world for 2 town members to know each other. While this is a straight up game it is also tmdi 5, not tmdi 1.

While I am all about trying to figure out known masters from suspected symps behavior. I also know that a good symp will point the fingers at everyone but his masters. Which is why we have a tendancy to want to lynch symps.

I don't like the tone of Kalse's posts. They seem very cheeky and also seem like participation when in reality they are just question asking. Sorry but I don't have time for a quote basket to show you. But they are just back a page or so.


Vote Kalse

Also HP could you WIFOM any more.

Quote

Is he trying to suggest there's a Finder, maybe he's one (don't think he voted for Fener), or is he scum trying to make us think that so we leave him alone?

Seriously WIFOM.

[Liosan]

And reall.. if you think you spot a finder... why wouldn't you want to keep it to yourself...

[Osseric]

And a finder wouldn't know how who Fener was during the day, either. Unless there's some wacky mechanics going on.


Hey guys... XD

EDIT: Changed how to who.

This post has been edited by Osseric: 17 March 2011 - 02:33 AM

[Liosan]

Hello Mr. Low poster

[Liosan]

Osseric, on 17 March 2011 - 02:32 AM, said:

And a finder wouldn't know how who Fener was during the day, either. Unless there's some wacky mechanics going on.


Hey guys... XD

EDIT: Changed how to who.

Actually this is spycraft. There have been known to be day finds.