[Path-Shaper]

1 votes for Ampelas (Omtose)
1 vote for Osseric (Barghast)
1 vote for Omtose (Liosan)

14 hours left in the day, 12 alive.

I have a very hectic day, out for around 90 from now.

[Galayn Lord]

Liosan, on 16 March 2011 - 04:57 PM, said:

Actually, of those first four votes I find Osseric and HP's to be the most suspect. They took what was basically a joke train, and turned it into an actual train. Regardless of if it was a joke or not, anyone that has played mafia more than a couple times knows that on day one, players are like dried wood doused in gas...one little spark and Boom! you are lynched. Both of those 2, under the guise of "joke voting" jumped on that train ...and boom went Fener. I find that suspicious.

Kalse, on 16 March 2011 - 05:28 PM, said:

Barghast has also displayed some questionable behaviour, and convinced a total of three people to jump on board the lynch-train, and now he wants to lynch Osseric for suspicious voting.

Interesting...

While I do agree about Osseric and HP, as Kalse notes, we can also not ignore the fact that the train had more or less stalled, as I recall, until Barghast came along with his little speech that netted three additional votes against Fener, in addition to his own, arguably serving as the deciding factor in lynching Fener.

And I was also thinking that about Omtose as well...

After the debacle yesterday though, I'm going to hold off on voting just yet until I'm a little more confident that who we're lynching is actually scum. I also haven't seen Tapper in a bit, anyone have any idea how much time is left for the day?

[Galayn Lord]

Ah, crossposting.

[Barghast]

Kalse, on 16 March 2011 - 05:28 PM, said:

OMG, thought I'd broken my tablet there for awhile...phew!


Omtose seems really geared on getting rid of Ampelas because of GL's supposed symping..I cannot make up my mind about this. Either they're counting on us dismissing their "symping" due to how obvious it is, or there's really nothing there.


Barghast has also displayed some questionable behaviour, and convinced a total of three people to jump on board the lynch-train, and now he wants to lynch Osseric for suspicious voting.

Interesting...

Well guy, when I voted, there wasn't a lot of time left in the day and there wasn't any particular reason to keep Fener around since it seemed like D'rek had already thrown in the towel.

[Barghast]

Galayn Lord, on 16 March 2011 - 06:20 PM, said:

Liosan, on 16 March 2011 - 04:57 PM, said:

Actually, of those first four votes I find Osseric and HP's to be the most suspect. They took what was basically a joke train, and turned it into an actual train. Regardless of if it was a joke or not, anyone that has played mafia more than a couple times knows that on day one, players are like dried wood doused in gas...one little spark and Boom! you are lynched. Both of those 2, under the guise of "joke voting" jumped on that train ...and boom went Fener. I find that suspicious.

Kalse, on 16 March 2011 - 05:28 PM, said:

Barghast has also displayed some questionable behaviour, and convinced a total of three people to jump on board the lynch-train, and now he wants to lynch Osseric for suspicious voting.

Interesting...

While I do agree about Osseric and HP, as Kalse notes, we can also not ignore the fact that the train had more or less stalled, as I recall, until Barghast came along with his little speech that netted three additional votes against Fener, in addition to his own, arguably serving as the deciding factor in lynching Fener.

And I was also thinking that about Omtose as well...

After the debacle yesterday though, I'm going to hold off on voting just yet until I'm a little more confident that who we're lynching is actually scum. I also haven't seen Tapper in a bit, anyone have any idea how much time is left for the day?

Hey, don't blame me just because I had an airtight set of logic that appealed to the sheeple . Just call me Pope Barghast!

[Barghast]

Also, in regards to GL's coding, the rules are pretty specific... if you code something on-thread and someone is able to break it on-thread, you are mod-killed. I'd be pretty surprised if he's doing anything more than adding some spice to his posts.

[Liosan]

Galayn Lord, on 16 March 2011 - 06:20 PM, said:

Liosan, on 16 March 2011 - 04:57 PM, said:

Actually, of those first four votes I find Osseric and HP's to be the most suspect. They took what was basically a joke train, and turned it into an actual train. Regardless of if it was a joke or not, anyone that has played mafia more than a couple times knows that on day one, players are like dried wood doused in gas...one little spark and Boom! you are lynched. Both of those 2, under the guise of "joke voting" jumped on that train ...and boom went Fener. I find that suspicious.

Kalse, on 16 March 2011 - 05:28 PM, said:

Barghast has also displayed some questionable behaviour, and convinced a total of three people to jump on board the lynch-train, and now he wants to lynch Osseric for suspicious voting.

Interesting...

While I do agree about Osseric and HP, as Kalse notes, we can also not ignore the fact that the train had more or less stalled, as I recall, until Barghast came along with his little speech that netted three additional votes against Fener, in addition to his own, arguably serving as the deciding factor in lynching Fener.

And I was also thinking that about Omtose as well...

After the debacle yesterday though, I'm going to hold off on voting just yet until I'm a little more confident that who we're lynching is actually scum. I also haven't seen Tapper in a bit, anyone have any idea how much time is left for the day?

For the record, since it keeps being brought up. I did not vote Fener based on Barghast's posts. I simply got called away, and would be unable to post before the deadline. I felt we needed a lynch regardless, so I voted with the most likely. I was in a real rush, so couldn't even explain this. I am doing so now. Just an FYI.

Secondly, Holding off on voting is silly. Thats how you apply pressure. This isn't like last game where you can't change your vote. Votes are a means to obtain information. If we all wait till we are sure we get scum... well, we'll be waiting a looooong time and still likely hit inno, and then get no information to make our next decision more informed.

[Galayn Lord]

Can't argue with that logic.

Vote Omtose

His overly defensive posts are too suspicious for my liking (I can just hear him screaming about how I'm symping Liosan now )

Got to head out for dinner now, be back in a couple hours

Edit: Typo

This post has been edited by Galayn Lord: 16 March 2011 - 07:09 PM

[Kalse]

Vote Omtose


Because I have an iffy feeling in my gut, and because I might not be back before the day is over.

[Korabas]

Well I still have no time to do this. But it looks like votes are starting to get tossed around all over the place.

To whom ever asked why I thought that Fener might have been known. I have no knowledge of anybody. But it seemed to me that such an important reoccurring character might have been known by her second or something. It does not seem out of this world for 2 town members to know each other. While this is a straight up game it is also tmdi 5, not tmdi 1.

While I am all about trying to figure out known masters from suspected symps behavior. I also know that a good symp will point the fingers at everyone but his masters. Which is why we have a tendancy to want to lynch symps.

I don't like the tone of Kalse's posts. They seem very cheeky and also seem like participation when in reality they are just question asking. Sorry but I don't have time for a quote basket to show you. But they are just back a page or so.


Vote Kalse

[Kalse]

I apologize. Was just trying to spam a little less, and contribute to keep the game going a little more




But what can I say? I'm a cheeky bastard. Must be because of my ridiculously good looks and awe-inspiring intelligence!

[Merrid]

Online, going to have a read up and see what's what...

[Merrid]

Omtose, on 16 March 2011 - 12:27 AM, said:

Gl how come in the past five of your posts youve mentioned my abscence?

Does someone have a little crush on me?

as someone earlier pointed out, if you check my time stamps this is the time i get online (well about 1 hour ago, but i had to read through the spam and then my server crashed) so expecting me to appear simply because you miss me isnt going to happen.

I didnt vote for fener because i thought it was ridiculous to get a train running so quickly for absolutley no reason, when he showed up and didnt bother to read the past few pages, that was daft and maybe that warrented lynching but the original votes built up way to quickly. Especially GL after the Amp vote, looked like sympage from GL for Amp.

I am low posting at the moment, because there was very little on the thread that was worth replying to. Its nearly all spam.

My works having server problems (ive had to retype this in wordpad because i lost my original post and didnt want to lose it twice) but Ill try to be more active today if we get some posts that are more mafia related.

I agree that this is quite a defensive post. What I find more disturbing is the fact that he is low posting on purpose, because there is little "worth" replying to. There has been a lynch and different accusations, and lots more is going on on this day one and two than past games. Our job is to find scum and the only way we can do that is by looking at these things and commenting, looking for discrepencies but by low posting town gets less information. He hasn't really commented on the Fener lynch iirc. I'll go back and have a look through but he does seem suspicious to me, there is little else out there at the moment.

Liosan, on 16 March 2011 - 04:57 PM, said:

Actually, of those first four votes I find Osseric and HP's to be the most suspect. They took what was basically a joke train, and turned it into an actual train. Regardless of if it was a joke or not, anyone that has played mafia more than a couple times knows that on day one, players are like dried wood doused in gas...one little spark and Boom! you are lynched. Both of those 2, under the guise of "joke voting" jumped on that train ...and boom went Fener. I find that suspicious.

I disagree with you here, they jumped onto the thread but then many hours went by before anything happened. I think Fener should have come on at this point and defended himself/herself better so that was her mistake but you were the next to vote on that train, you were the fifth. I know time was running out so that you had to vote to get a lynch, this made sense to me but they didn't set the lynch in stone, it could have still went elsewhere if something better came up. I think the Lynch went through because Fener didn't defend or put up a good argument, which is just what Rashan said after the lynch. He said he was disappointed that someone with a great role would low post or not put up a good fight

Barghast, on 16 March 2011 - 05:01 PM, said:

Osseric, on 14 March 2011 - 10:17 PM, said:

Wait, wait! We're voting off Fener? I'm game...

Vote Fener

Stupid lecture is boring, in any case.

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaand.....

Quote

1500 bottles of beer on the wall, 1500 bottles of beer.
Take one down and pass it around, 1499 bottles of beer on the wall...

1499 bottles of beer on the wall, 1499 bottles of beer,
Take one down, and pass it around, 1498 bottles of beer on the wall...


C'mon guys, keep it going...

EDIT: To fix drunkeness-revealing mistakes.

Another thing to consider is that a lot of the animosity toward Ampelas is geared toward the fact that he posts a lot. Ampelas and GL aren't really responsible for railroading Fener. They started it, but all Day 1 trains start somewhere. It's the people that turn it into a train that are the most suspicious and Osseric filled that role nicely. He has the fewest posts of people left in the game and hasn't offered more than this vote for Fener and an eventual "meh" reaction to it, later.

He also accused Omtose of being a noob.

In the interest of keeping things going.

Vote Osseric

See I think Osseric is just as fishy as Omtose, Omtose for the crazy post and Osseric being the lowest poster, giving filler posts and not trying to help us find scum.

I'm more inclined to lay my vote with Omtose out of the two though at the moment.

In fact I will

Vote Omtose

Unless something better comes up this will stay.

I will be around for the next hour or so

[Path-Shaper]

7 to lynch, 6 for night.

1 votes for Ampelas (Omtose)
1 vote for Osseric (Barghast)
4 vote for Omtose (Liosan, Galayn Lord, Kalse, Merrid)
1 vote for Kalse (Korabas)

9 hours and 45 minutes left in the day by my count, 12 alive. I'll be off to bed soon, so if a lynch happens without me, tough luck.
Since we have new people: if you are lynched, please no longer post.

[Barghast]

My spider sense is really tingling right now. We're certainly getting down to the < 12 hour mark when people start to lay out votes... but we have basically a succession of people all "agreeing" that Omtose was overly defensive and perhaps overshared that he was low-posting on purpose. I agree it's a little fishy, but 3 of 4 posters straight up voted for him... and the 4th (Korabas) voted for Kalse, instead.

[Barghast]

Kalse, on 16 March 2011 - 07:45 PM, said:

I apologize. Was just trying to spam a little less, and contribute to keep the game going a little more




But what can I say? I'm a cheeky bastard. Must be because of my ridiculously good looks and awe-inspiring intelligence!

Why are you apologizing here? Do you always shy away from confrontation with this kind of retreat? Is your master giving you an indication that he doesn't like the way you're brandishing your smarm all over the thread?

[Barghast]

Korabas doesn't have many posts and most of them were from the Day 1 spam. He does seem to have a general dislike of GL, though.

Korabas, on 14 March 2011 - 04:45 PM, said:

Galayn Lord, on 14 March 2011 - 04:09 PM, said:

I go out walkin'
After midnight
Out in Malaysia
Just like we used to do...

Doesn't this post just scream. This isn't a code don't look at this.

He indicated he might vote for Fener on Day 1 but missed voting entirely. He came on long after the lynch.

Korabas, on 15 March 2011 - 02:31 PM, said:

If it is more possible for a thread to degenerate to less then spam. This thread has done it. I think that we should all give our selves a round of applause.

Now we don't have anything resembling a defense from Fener so I will most likely vote for him in a few hours.

Again, focuses onto GL.

Korabas, on 16 March 2011 - 11:43 AM, said:

Ok I'm here for all of one minute. I can't say to much about the fener lynch other then what has already been said. I didn't figure that Fener was D'rek, although if I remember right she said that she didn't really have time to play. But the lack of any defense from her or from anyone else. I suppose that at least one person would have known who she was. But I could be mistaken. When i get time I am going to look at the train. Right now agree with Omtose that GL is acting like a symp. I am just not sure for whom yet.

[Barghast]

By contrast, Kalse's posts look fairly consistent... he is spamming on Day 1, settles on Merrid for a vote (is against the Fener vote, I believe). He agree's with Omtose's early vote... but now he's on Omtose's butt. He only mentioned Korabas once, for the same reason I posted above... Korabas indicated he wanted to vote but didn't do so.

[Ampelas]

hey all
just got in, and gotta head out again: a friend is not feeling too well and asked me to sub in at work. and this was supposed to be my "free" evening of the week,

I see people are piling up on Omtose, i'll have to take a look at that in a few hours. Off the top of my head, other than the fact that he's been consistently on my case for GL's "symping" I haven't seen much that's voteworthy. I'll medidtate on this some more when I get back, but that should be about 4 hours before day end anyway.

[Omtose]

good morning angels,

my over reaction on my post was because i was pissed that i had to retype twice due to server errors. dont really know how it managed to get four votes so quickly though...

I wasnt low posting to lurk, i was low posting due to the fact nothing happened when i was online, and i was asleep when something interesting did happen.

pretty much the same when i was online yesturday, apart from a brief stint with HP i pretty much had the thread to myself for 6 hours.

someone mentioned I beefed up my post count with spam, as opposed to all the awesome posts everyone else has used to up there posts?