^Stalker, Badlands and Coots, though I honestly don't recall enough of their descriptions. Kyle, who is from Bael (rather than Assail, per se) is meanwhile described on many occaisons (particularly in SW) as an even more tribal looking Wickan, I believe, so central Asian/Mongol-ish isn't too much of a stretch, though whether that can be generalized to the folks of Assail proper remains to be seen (unless someone can find a good description of the Lost Bros in RotCG).
Fereydoon, on 21 February 2011 - 02:40 PM, said:
Hi all,
I have read all of ICE's books and have read GotM, DG and am on MoI atm. I would like the opinion of others on what the various tribes I have come across - human and non-human - look like. I am sure someone must have created a thread like this before but I couldn't find one, so sorry if it's a duplicate thread.
- Wickans - I imagine semblance to Mongols and native Americans
- Napans - I imagine a Japanese resemblance, but with bluish skin, but that could be because of the phonetic similarity of Napan to Japan
- Malaz natives - I imagine Central European. Perhaps. Also, I don't believe there is a huge difference between the Kartoolians (Hellian's origin) and Genii (Greymane's home), though I may be completely off base there.
- Trell - No idea, except that they have dark skin and a heavy build.
- Toblokai - A larger version of humans, and with four lungs
- Jaghut - almost like a troll. Also with tusks and green hued skin.
- Moranth - beyond the armour, no idea - and I imagine that's as much as is given away. If memory serves they also are related to the Barghast in some capacity, though their language has clearly altered dramatically over the years, into it's current clicking based incarnation.
- Itko-Kanese - No idea. Always pictured as being fair-skinned Asian in appearance myself, though that could simply be due do the name.
- Daru - South European. Also seem to have originated from the tribal groups on the Dwelling Plain that we encounter in TTH (The Kindaru, etc...).
- Barghast - Large human race, liking tattoos
- T'lan Imass - Revenant with Neanderthal-like set
- Korelri - Black African. IIRC from Stonewielder, both the Korel and Fistians (or at least the Roolians) are described as having brown, almond, or coffee hued skin tones, which suggested to me a more Indian/Pakistani/Sinhalese appearance for them.
- Falar - Ginger haired European. Scottish in appearance, definitely.
- Seti - Mongolian
- Seven Cities natives - Mix of Middle Eastern types, East Indians, and African types. Culturally speaking, I would be inclined to perhaps agreeing with you, as the Falah'dan always reminded me of the Caliphates, however, in terms of actual appearance, I was under the impression, based on Quick Ben and Kalam's descriptions mostly, that the Seven Cities peoples were generally much darker and more Sub-Saharan African in appearance.
- Assail Natives - Central Asian
How accurate am I with this? I guess I am missing a few people from this list too as it's just offf the top of my head.
You also missed:
1) The Dal Honese people (tribal, with two sub-populations, the jungle and the plains peoples, which I always pictured as of a much darker skin-tone)
2) The Perish, who I recall as being described as very fair skinned and thus perhaps similar to the Norse/Scandinavians in appearance (and in DoD they are described as coming from a land of kingdoms, with topographical deescriptions that seems akin to fjords, or at the very least, to Northern Europe/Canada in general, see Tanakalian's observations as they pass by the Bolkando coastlne)
3) The Letherii, who were descendants of colonists of the First Empire in 7C, though I imagined with somewhat lighter skin colours. Berber/ Arab perhaps? Though I don't really have much justification for that, and they have also assimilated, to varying degrees, a half-dozen different peoples, which have invariably also impacted their appearance.
4) Bolkando/Saphhi. Descriptions from DoD remind me of West Africa, particularly of the Mali Empire, the Yoruba Kingdoms, and the Sokoto Caliphate. The Awl and A'kryn I imagine a somewhat of a cross between them and the Letherii to the north, with a streak of tribalism.
5) The Nathii I recall as being the dominant ethnic group in Northern Genebackis, and believe would be akin to the Gallic or Gothic peoples of Germany and France.
6) The Rhivi, which I pictured as being much more of a nomadic society, akin to the Roma with a lot of Native Americanesque culture mixed in.
7) The peoples of the Southern Genebackis Confederacy and Elingarth. For the latter, perhaps more due to the names of the various Grey Swords members (ie, Itkovian), I always imagined as being somewhat Slavic in appearance, though I have no idea about the members of the Confederacy (iirc, Iron Bars's navigator at the end of RotC was from there, Jemaine was his name, I believe)
8) Back on Quon Tali, we also have the Talians, the Hengenese, and the Cawnese. I always pictured these mainland Quon Tali peoples, in addition to the the Kanese, Cawnese, Untans, and Bloorians, as being more Asian in appearance, perhaps akin to the Chinese Han, though with regional deifferences between them all, to be sure.
Then there are, of course, the peoples of Stratem (including Toll's City) and Jacuruku, as well as Shall-Morzinn and Nemil, Genostel, Cabal, and Umryg, and the now extinct peoples of Sepik, none of whose descriptions I can adequately recall atm. Oh, and the Seguleh, which I believe are described, without their masks, as being similar in appearnce to northern Genebackans (either Daru or Nathii) based on Rell in RotCG being continually referenced to as Northern Genebackan (prior to us learning that he was in fact Seguleh, of course). Lazan Door and Madrun Badrudin in TTH also seem to have been accepted by Torvald Nom (initially) as having hailed from One-Eye Cat, which lends further credence to there being similarities in appearance between the Seguleh and [Northern] Genebackans
Anyways, those are all the human(ish) peoples of the Malaz world off the top of my head, and hopefully someone can correct any errors on my part, as I'm also quite curious as to how other people perceive the various ethnic groups of the Malaz world.
Edit: Forgot about the Jheck and the Marese. The Jheck I pictured as being Siberian, while for the Marese, I believe Devaleth was described in similar terms to other Roolians, and was certainly never mentioned as being anything but human. However, from the encyclopedia:
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"The First Empire, from which vast fleets had sailed forth to map the world. The coasts of all six continents had been charted, eight hundred and eleven islands scattered in the vast oceans, ruins and riches discovered, ancient sorceries and fierce, ignorant tribes encountered. Other peoples, not human, all of whom bled easily enough.
Barghast,
Trell,
Tartheno,
Fenn,
Mare,
Jhag,
Krinn,
Jheck . . . Colonies had been established on foreign coasts. Wars and conquests, always conquests. Until . . . all was brought down, all was destroyed. The First Empire collapsed in upon itself. Beasts rose in the midst of its cities, a nightmare burgeoning like plague...The Emperor who was One was now Seven, and the Seven were scattered, lost in madness. The great cities burned. And people died in the millions." -
(MT, UK Trade, p.421)
It states the Marese are not in fact human. Again, I don't recall any description or discussion about the Marese involving anything that would suggest they were of a seperate, non-human race, however, this quote would suggest otherwise. Can anyone offer some clarity on this matter? Was it simply an incorrect statement/observation, either by SE or from the author of that particular quotation (some historian, I believe, though I don't have my copy of MT to check), or have the Mare perhaps interbred with humans for so long a time that for all intents and purposes they are now the same species?
This post has been edited by snake0026: 21 February 2011 - 07:24 PM
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