[Korabas]

ah....well then it must be scum.

plain and simple


thats interesting... so remote possibility of a vig hitting home AND scum hitting a bp perhaps?
I still cant see PS making scum not know each other. Would be pretty unfair in this game.

meh....wat do i know

[Tellan]

Quite a lot to read up on, good that one scum has gone already, hopefully scum was attached to Omtose as well.

Ampelas made a remark about the start of the train on Omtose and this could have seen him killed I am going to look back and have a look at this.

[Tellan]

Ampelas, on 19 January 2011 - 01:28 PM, said:

Ok just read up, not a huge amount to go on but i was getting weird vibes off Omtose who just felt the need to randomly pop on and point out that scum could end up killing themselves.Not sure what it was but this sort of post just sent my scumdar tingling so until something more comes along

vote Omtose

Fener, on 19 January 2011 - 07:50 PM, said:

I don't really like to vote people for bad early game cases because it's way more likely that an inno makes an early game bad case than scum. But a lynch is doubly good in this game sooooooo

Vote Omtose

For being the most viable candidate IMO.

Tellan, on 19 January 2011 - 09:07 PM, said:

i'm going to lay my vote with Omtose. I think that he got some heat and deflected it all very nicely to Osseric. Although Osseric reaction was a bit over the top there was no case in the first place.

Vote Omtose

I may not get back on until quite close to night time. i'll do my best.

Ruse, on 19 January 2011 - 09:13 PM, said:

the woman just carried me laptop in and i think looking at it omtose is 3-2 at mo. we need a lynch so

vote omtose

i can barely breath let alone think. goodnight gents.

Liosan, on 19 January 2011 - 10:04 PM, said:

Well looks like another no lynch on day one... WILL WE NEVER LEARN!!! oh the humanity.

remove vote

vote Omtose

for being a viable day one lynch ( the only one?) and for jumping on something so trivial and then defending his poor case. Not sure that makes him scum, but it makes him silly and if there is one thing I hate...its silliness.

Rashan, on 19 January 2011 - 10:18 PM, said:

Really, a vote for omtose because of a bad case? a vote for omtose because of silliness?!

vote Omtose

Because there seems to be little choice in the matter this day. If we want a lynch, this is all we have.

Kalse, on 19 January 2011 - 10:33 PM, said:

Tried to get on when server was down, only just got chance to return...

Reading it all through Osseric's comment seems innocent enough really, it could be misconstrued but only if taking that one sentence into account and not his whole post. Osserics defense seems a bit mad but it can wind you up to have something simple you say get twisted.

so for me it is down to Omtose and Silanah, whose relationship in itself has made me suspicious

Quote

Oh hey look at no point are you or him referring to peoples ignorance changing. In fact looking at it in the correct light makes it even more scummy. That and your defense really leave something lacking.

Vote Osseric


Sil you need to bold.

but then again i could be reading too much into things, and we could do with a lynch right?


Vote Omtose

Edit: added quote

Osseric, on 19 January 2011 - 10:43 PM, said:

Vote Omtose


Because his vote on me right after Sil smacked of following.

Merrid, on 19 January 2011 - 11:03 PM, said:

I'm not sure theirs much of a case here but we need a lynch so i think its hammer time

Vote Omtose

Here are the people who voted and their reasons.

Ampelas (scum) started the train

Fener jumped onto this, maybe he wanted to deflect from people voting him earlier, he didn't have any reason and even stated that he thought Omtose was inno, there were 4 people with one vote on each of them so why didn't he chose someone he thought more scummy?

me, Tellan. My reason was that Omtose got voted by Ampelas but rather than defend he attacked Osseric with a bad case

Ruse stated we needed a lynch so jumped onto Omtose, at the time it was 3 votes to Omtose, 2 votes to Osseric and 1 vote for a couple of others

Liosan gave similar reason to me although he thought it was silly rather than scummy although he didn't think the lynch would go through

Rashan stated that he didn't have a choice but to vote for Omtose

Kalse also thought Omtose made a bad case but also highlighted a possible relationship with Silanah as a scummy sign

Osseric thought Omtose and Silanah had some sort of relationship

Merrid Hammers as was inevitable. He didn't think much of the case at all

[Ruse]

disappointing about omtose, but not exactly surprising given it was a day 1. also even an inno lynch man result in a scum exploding head.

good about ampelas. possible that scum dont know each other, presonally in a battle royale type game i would have expected it to be last man standing rather than standard game of town versus scum but there is nothing really to indicate that. If killers dont know each other, or who they are chained to, then this game is heavily biased against them so there must be a lot of them to conpensate for that.

we need to lynch everyday regardless.

Did anyone have any strange interactions with ampelas yestderday?

[Tellan]

Looking at the cases and reason for voting Fener and Rashan stick out to me. Fener because he though Omtose looked innocent but voted for him anyway and Rashan because he said he had no choice. If either of these voted elsewhere then there could have well been a different lynch. I agree we need to lynch everyday but we could at least have a reason for doing so.

[Tellan]

Ampelas, on 19 January 2011 - 12:12 AM, said:

I have arrived Hmmm this collar thing does look interesting.
At the moment HP's vote did look a bit like grasping at straws but i think its a bit early to tell yet.

Hood, on 19 January 2011 - 06:01 AM, said:

Ampelas, on 19 January 2011 - 12:12 AM, said:

I have arrived Hmmm this collar thing does look interesting.
At the moment HP's vote did look a bit like grasping at straws but i think its a bit early to tell yet.

Not so much grasping at straws as grasping at something that will make people talk instead of just moaning that nothing is happening and hoping that someone is going to magically make the game interesting. Lately it feels like everyone is so hesitant to rock the boat that we've all forgotten we're supposed to be rowing.

Ampelas, on 19 January 2011 - 01:28 PM, said:

Ok just read up, not a huge amount to go on but i was getting weird vibes off Omtose who just felt the need to randomly pop on and point out that scum could end up killing themselves.Not sure what it was but this sort of post just sent my scumdar tingling so until something more comes along

vote Omtose

Omtose, on 19 January 2011 - 02:46 PM, said:

Ampelas, on 19 January 2011 - 01:28 PM, said:

Ok just read up, not a huge amount to go on but i was getting weird vibes off Omtose who just felt the need to randomly pop on and point out that scum could end up killing themselves.Not sure what it was but this sort of post just sent my scumdar tingling so until something more comes along

vote Omtose

There was nothing random about it. That was when I was able to post and all people were talking about was circles and there + and minus. You sir are trying to look like you are contributing to the game. When in reality you only have two posts for a grand total of 5 lines. I see your vote and pathetic attempt to lay claim to some kind of participation and laugh sir. I laugh.

Ampelas, on 20 January 2011 - 01:02 AM, said:

ok so looks like we managed to lynch omtose with about 7 votes in 2 hours Il wait till we get the result back and night ends, but there definitely seems to be something going on near the start of that train.

Sorrit, on 20 January 2011 - 01:22 AM, said:

Ampelas, on 20 January 2011 - 01:02 AM, said:

ok so looks like we managed to lynch omtose with about 7 votes in 2 hours Il wait till we get the result back and night ends, but there definitely seems to be something going on near the start of that train.

That's not all that surprising, considering the typical fear of lack-of-day-1 lynches. I wholly support the motion!

Ampelas, on 20 January 2011 - 01:27 AM, said:

Yeah getting a lynch was a good thing, not saying anything against that. It just seemed a bit iffy near the start of it when i looked back.

Sorrit, on 20 January 2011 - 01:39 AM, said:

I can't imagine that many people following someone though, it'd have to be town and there's no way that many people know someone. I think everyone just doesn't mind hopping on a lynch on day 1.

Ampelas, on 20 January 2011 - 01:43 AM, said:

yeah the hopper's at the end could be either i think. Im more concerned by the people near the start like Fener and HP i think. Will do a proper look though when i wake up tomorrow though.

Galayn Lord, on 20 January 2011 - 01:49 AM, said:

generally, it's votes 2-5 that are the iffy ones. they are the ones that "build" the train, and once it gets momentum, the result becomes inevitable.

sorry for the epic posts but here are all posts that Ampelas was involved in or replied to. He was a low poster and until he voted for Omtose he had only one post on the board

[Tellan]

Ampelas, on 20 January 2011 - 01:02 AM, said:

ok so looks like we managed to lynch omtose with about 7 votes in 2 hours Il wait till we get the result back and night ends, but there definitely seems to be something going on near the start of that train.

This could be a good reason for him to get killed. If scum don't know each other then he could have made other scum look his way when he wrote this. If Fener was scum for example and Amp is pointing in his direction then Fener might choose to take him out. This smacks of WIFOM though

However there was a little descrepancy between HP and Ampelas at the beginning

[Ruse]

Path-Shaper, on 20 January 2011 - 03:02 AM, said:

It is Day 1.

16 Players still alive: Ampelas, Barghast, Fener, Galayn Lord, Hood's Path, Kalse, Korabas, Liosan, Merrid, Omtose, Osseric, Rashan, Ruse, Silanah, Sorrit, Tellan

9 votes to lynch, 8 votes to go to night.

2 Votes for Osseric ( Silanah, Omtose )
1 Vote for Fener ( Hood's Path )
9 Votes for Omtose ( Ampelas, Fener, Tellan, Ruse, Liosan, Rashan, Kalse, Osseric, Merrid)

Players not voted: Barghast, Galayn Lord, Korabas, Sorrit


Omtose did not even protest weakly as the frightened mob descended on her. She sat in a dull silence, eyes wide and uncomprehending as the rope wound around her neck. Afterwards, the mob decided she deserved it anyways, since she didn't even struggle.


Too bad she was innocent.

Omtose (Vengeance) is Dead. He was an innocent schoolgirl Somewhere inside a collar of another student under plastic and silicon, a little red light went on....


Resolving night...

Ampelas, on 20 January 2011 - 01:27 AM, said:

Yeah getting a lynch was a good thing, not saying anything against that. It just seemed a bit iffy near the start of it when i looked back.

Sorrit, on 20 January 2011 - 01:22 AM, said:

Ampelas, on 20 January 2011 - 01:02 AM, said:

ok so looks like we managed to lynch omtose with about 7 votes in 2 hours Il wait till we get the result back and night ends, but there definitely seems to be something going on near the start of that train.

That's not all that surprising, considering the typical fear of lack-of-day-1 lynches. I wholly support the motion!

Possibly sorritt signalling looking at what you have there.

[Ruse]

alwso quite amusing that the scum who started a train says someothign fishy happening at start when they atarted it.

[Ruse]

damn fingers arent working properly

[Tellan]

That does look like signalling to me.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 2. 26 hours and 22 minutes remaining

14 Players still alive: Barghast, Fener, Galayn Lord, Hood's Path, Kalse, Korabas, Liosan, Merrid, Osseric, Rashan, Ruse, Silanah, Sorrit, Tellan

8 votes to lynch, 8 votes to go to night.

1 Vote: Liosan (Hood's Path)

Players not voted: , Barghast, Fener, Galayn Lord, Kalse, Korabas, Liosan, Merrid, Omt Osseric, Rashan, Ruse, Silanah, Sorrit, Tellan

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 20 January 2011 - 12:17 PM

[Tellan]

Path-Shaper, on 20 January 2011 - 11:51 AM, said:

It is Day 2. 26 hours and 22 minutes remaining

14 Players still alive: Barghast, Fener, Galayn Lord, Hood's Path, Kalse, Korabas, Liosan, Merrid, Osseric, Rashan, Ruse, Silanah, Sorrit, Tellan

1 Vote: Liosan (Hood's Path)

Players not voted: , Barghast, Fener, Galayn Lord, Kalse, Korabas, Liosan, Merrid, Omt Osseric, Rashan, Ruse, Silanah, Sorrit, Tellan

HP has

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 20 January 2011 - 12:19 PM

[Fener]

Ampelas, on 20 January 2011 - 01:27 AM, said:

Yeah getting a lynch was a good thing, not saying anything against that. It just seemed a bit iffy near the start of it when i looked back.

Ampelas, on 20 January 2011 - 01:43 AM, said:

yeah the hopper's at the end could be either i think. Im more concerned by the people near the start like Fener and HP i think. Will do a proper look though when i wake up tomorrow though.

Both of these are now amusing considering that Ampelas was the FIRST vote and scum.

[Galayn Lord]

Morning, all.
I'm still trting to wrap ,my head around how scum would fit into the set up of pairs. I can't see them being paired with each other, that would make them super-vulnerable. but if they are in diff pairs ans know each other, it's still a very risky game they'd be playing with every kill.... bah

can't think bout it now. off to class. I'll try to drop by at lunch time.

[Fener]

Tellan, on 20 January 2011 - 09:15 AM, said:

Here are the people who voted and their reasons.

Ampelas (scum) started the train

Fener jumped onto this, maybe he wanted to deflect from people voting him earlier, he didn't have any reason and even stated that he thought Omtose was inno, there were 4 people with one vote on each of them so why didn't he chose someone he thought more scummy?

me, Tellan. My reason was that Omtose got voted by Ampelas but rather than defend he attacked Osseric with a bad case

Ruse stated we needed a lynch so jumped onto Omtose, at the time it was 3 votes to Omtose, 2 votes to Osseric and 1 vote for a couple of others

Liosan gave similar reason to me although he thought it was silly rather than scummy although he didn't think the lynch would go through

Rashan stated that he didn't have a choice but to vote for Omtose

Kalse also thought Omtose made a bad case but also highlighted a possible relationship with Silanah as a scummy sign

Osseric thought Omtose and Silanah had some sort of relationship

Merrid Hammers as was inevitable. He didn't think much of the case at all

Who voted me? Someone joke voted, HP then real voted me, and that was it, I believe. I picked Omtose because I saw that only two people were even remotely viable lynches. Osseric who had 2 votes and Omtose who had 1 vote. I thought that the Osseric vote was not going anywhere, even if I brought it to three, and that Omtose had a better chance of being lynched off. I also didn't put much stock in either one being scum because Day 1 cases rarely ever amount to anything.

I was actually pretty sure we weren't going to even manage a lynch, which annoyed me to no end.

If Omtose had a partner, that partner probably killed Ampelas. If he did not have a partner, it was no doubt an unlucky hit by another scum.

[Tellan]

Fener, on 20 January 2011 - 04:16 PM, said:

Tellan, on 20 January 2011 - 09:15 AM, said:

Here are the people who voted and their reasons.

Ampelas (scum) started the train

Fener jumped onto this, maybe he wanted to deflect from people voting him earlier, he didn't have any reason and even stated that he thought Omtose was inno, there were 4 people with one vote on each of them so why didn't he chose someone he thought more scummy?

me, Tellan. My reason was that Omtose got voted by Ampelas but rather than defend he attacked Osseric with a bad case

Ruse stated we needed a lynch so jumped onto Omtose, at the time it was 3 votes to Omtose, 2 votes to Osseric and 1 vote for a couple of others

Liosan gave similar reason to me although he thought it was silly rather than scummy although he didn't think the lynch would go through

Rashan stated that he didn't have a choice but to vote for Omtose

Kalse also thought Omtose made a bad case but also highlighted a possible relationship with Silanah as a scummy sign

Osseric thought Omtose and Silanah had some sort of relationship

Merrid Hammers as was inevitable. He didn't think much of the case at all

Who voted me? Someone joke voted, HP then real voted me, and that was it, I believe. I picked Omtose because I saw that only two people were even remotely viable lynches. Osseric who had 2 votes and Omtose who had 1 vote. I thought that the Osseric vote was not going anywhere, even if I brought it to three, and that Omtose had a better chance of being lynched off. I also didn't put much stock in either one being scum because Day 1 cases rarely ever amount to anything.

I was actually pretty sure we weren't going to even manage a lynch, which annoyed me to no end.

If Omtose had a partner, that partner probably killed Ampelas. If he did not have a partner, it was no doubt an unlucky hit by another scum.

My point here with you is that although you thought Omtose innocent you voted for him anyway, I thought him scummy and voted for him, I got it wrong but you had it right so I don't know why you went ahead and voted for him. Why did you think Omtose had more of a chance, if Osseric had another vote then the train would have built on him, especially since everyone wanted to lynch day one. Are you going of what Liosan said about switching to Omtose?

[Fener]

Sorrit, on 19 January 2011 - 07:53 PM, said:

I'm really not going to be on much today, and I aplogize for that.

Definitely Osseric is overreacting while Omtose is overpushing his own misunderstanding, but on the plus side it's a pretty contentful day 1 by ordinary standards.

This post annoyed me when I originally read it and I just double checked and Sorrit did not get a vote in by the end of the day. He did manage to provide an explanation to Ampelas as to why there was essentially a speed lynch.

Sorrit, on 20 January 2011 - 01:22 AM, said:

Ampelas, on 20 January 2011 - 01:02 AM, said:

ok so looks like we managed to lynch omtose with about 7 votes in 2 hours Il wait till we get the result back and night ends, but there definitely seems to be something going on near the start of that train.

That's not all that surprising, considering the typical fear of lack-of-day-1 lynches. I wholly support the motion!

People that post but abstain from voting are never good to leave lying around in a game.


Vote Sorrit


edit: moved vote down

This post has been edited by Fener: 20 January 2011 - 04:29 PM

[Fener]

I suggest you avoid getting tunnel-visioned on one guy, Tellan. You already appear to be doing just that.

Tellan, on 19 January 2011 - 10:09 AM, said:

i'm inclined to lean towards a Fener vote because each posts he has given seems to be like he is trying to lead people or thats how it looks

I voted for Omtose because Osseric had two votes and then nobody seemed inclined to vote for him. We had some hours, forum downtime included, where there was very little activity after the two quick votes for Osseric and clearly nobody felt it was worth voting. Below are quotes from HP and Liosan who basically agreed that Omtose overreacted to Osseric.

Hood, on 19 January 2011 - 06:21 PM, said:

Was the forum down for anyone else? I couldn't get for the last two hours or so.

Omtose, I'm not sure where you are coming from. Osseric says in the post that you quoted he was talking about people finding out who their partners are. The bit that says

Quote

there may very well be an ability that relates to discovering who someone is chained to

Granted Osseric wasn't as precise as he could have been in referring to what might change, but his explanation didn't leave anything lacking. Panicking a bit with Amp's vote against you?

And Tellan, you might want to state your assumptions before you say something like we have a 1 in 2 chance of getting scum with the collar mechanic. That post read very weird.

Liosan, on 19 January 2011 - 06:29 PM, said:

did the forums go down for anyone else? I haven't been able to get here for a few hours now. Very odd because it looks like people have been posting recently. oh well. I am back.

Since it is clear that no one is going to do the smart thing and vote for Hoods path( you will look back on me in awe once SH is reached), then I will gladly vote for Osseric. Why? Because after 2 votes, with 9 needed he is showing a bit of over reaction at 2 votes. I don't really think the case has merit... and that could be why he is over reacting a tad.

Also, I could vote for Omtose. After Silanah starts it, Omtose does what he has wanted to do all along and vote Osseric.

Of the 2 I am more inclined to go with an Omtose vote.

BUT...

leaving my vote on HP for now in hopes that you folks will see the light ( or dark as the case may be) he is clearly scum.

Now I figure anybody could get lynched on Day 1, but I had a choice between the guy who attacked me (Osseric) and the guy who I thought made a typical townie error by focusing on a few random comments (Omtose). Neither one was good, but I have a habit of not knee-jerk voting for someone just because they pressured me. Ultimately, I didn't care too much because a lynch is a lynch and every lynch is > 2x the chance of getting scum. It may have been one less vote on a Day 1 case, but the HP and Liosan posts made me feel that we already had two votes for Omtose waiting in the wings and thus he was an easier guy to lynch.

Fener, on 19 January 2011 - 07:47 PM, said:

Omtose, on 19 January 2011 - 03:28 PM, said:

Fine in the exact context of the conversation that you were having with merrid.

Merrid, on 19 January 2011 - 11:56 AM, said:

read the rules post

shin even under lined it

no one knows who is on there collar, the scum may know who the other scum are, but from the op I'm not to sure, but even if the scum know whose on which team, they have just as much chance of hitting the person chained to themselves as hitting a RI-RI chain

Osseric, on 19 January 2011 - 12:21 PM, said:

There's nothing that says that can't change though, there may very well be an ability that relates to discovering who someone is chained to, but we can't be sure of that at this point, so we must operate on the information supplied, which is nobody knows who anybody is chained to.

EDIT - added last clause and changed wording of first clause

Oh hey look at no point are you or him referring to peoples ignorance changing. In fact looking at it in the correct light makes it even more scummy. That and your defense really leave something lacking.

Vote Osseric


Sil you need to bold.

Osseric couldn't add 2 and 2 to save his life, but your attack is pretty pathetic. I think Osseric's post reads perfectly clearly and you are drawing way too much out of it for Day 1.

[Liosan]

I'm here.

@Fener What do you mean when you say "If Omtose had a Partner"? Omtose was inno.

Also, could you elaborate why you chose Omtose? You state that you thought both were inno. You state that only 2 people were remotely viable lynches. Yet, there were other people with a vote on them. I find it odd that you, who was annoyed that we likely weren't going to get a lynch, voted for a person with one vote on them rather than someone with 2 votes on them.

for now, because I said I would always have a vote placed:

vote Fener

just because your reasoning for not voting Omtose seem rather fishy. Though I should probably be voting Osseric as that is who you seem to be symping.