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Harllo got some help... from whom?

#1 User is offline   grey_tinman 

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Posted 03 January 2011 - 11:49 AM

In the final scene with Venaz, a nameless boy gets a broken arm helping Harllo. Do we know who he is? Harllo doesn't know as he asks him, "Who are you?"
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Posted 03 January 2011 - 12:15 PM

something nom, the one who worships murrilio
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Posted 03 January 2011 - 01:06 PM

View PostRoldom, on 03 January 2011 - 12:15 PM, said:

something nom, the one who worships murrilio


Right. Bellam is his name, I think. Now I remember his uncles finding him in the street with a broken arm. I missed that connection; makes me wonder what else I missed.
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Posted 04 January 2011 - 06:27 AM

Re-reads are your friends. :wub:
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Posted 01 December 2011 - 04:18 AM

The fact that Bellam Nom is around as a sort of protégé of Murillo's made me feel better about Murillo's death.
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Posted 14 December 2011 - 06:25 AM

Even better, we learn that Bellam is the current scion of House Nom, important enough that Rallick and Torvald have to go find him. Talk about the theme of redemption in this book...
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Posted 24 April 2012 - 07:00 AM

That's Bellam? I am thinking someone smaller...
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Posted 24 April 2012 - 10:26 AM

Its definitely Bellam Nom we see his injury later when he speaks to his uncles.
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Posted 18 March 2013 - 05:19 AM

Awesome, this was one of the questions I too had after just finishing the book.
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Posted 06 September 2015 - 06:07 PM

I had this question also.

Assuming spoilers are a given in this thread:

I thought it was Snell during the scene but later I realized it must be Bellam. But - I thought Bellam was older and Venaz was younger. They had to be close for Venaz to be winning.
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Posted 24 January 2023 - 09:22 PM

View Postcgw, on 06 September 2015 - 06:07 PM, said:

I had this question also.

Assuming spoilers are a given in this thread:

I thought it was Snell during the scene but later I realized it must be Bellam. But - I thought Bellam was older and Venaz was younger. They had to be close for Venaz to be winning.


Yeah, that's what confused me as well. From the story we are led to believe Venaz was not much older than Harllo, because he lost his position as favorite mole etc. And Stonny seems to be teaching teenagers how to duel, so we assume Bellam is a teenager. On top of that he seems quite mature in the conversations with the adults, not something you'd expect from a small kid. He also easily overcomes Snell and inspires a holy terror into Snell, again not something that would happen if he was the same age. He's even left in charge by Murillio to cover 2 small kids AND Snell.

So to me, it seems a slip-up from SE to make it seem as Venaz and Bellam are same age/size. Just doesn't add up.

Ah well, sorry for necromancing this thread btw but didn't want to create a new one.
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