[Path-Shaper]

Telas checks in and wants to immediately nail Bent.

Telas, on 20 October 2010 - 02:15 AM, said:

A vig, eh?

Kids, can you say "Mana from heaven" ?

Good job, my little children! Good job!

Now, all that remains is to alt-guess Bent......

Have fun. Play nice with your friends!

-HD

Mockra, on 20 October 2010 - 02:14 AM, said:

I'm a guard again...sigh... and I have to keep Gamelon alive...sigh... The thing about being a guard is that I am most valuable at the end of the game. WHICH goes in complete contrast to how I play when I am inno. But then again this is a cult game so I am not inno... It's time to kick ass and chew bubble gum... and I'm all outta gum.

So, I guess it's time to kick ass then?

[Path-Shaper]

Reaction and a weekend play problem for Steel Silencer. Also, another iron question. Does he need to use iron at night or does he automatically just kill a coin-shot who attacks him?

Liosan, on 20 October 2010 - 02:54 AM, said:

Ah, I do so the love the trade-offs you have worked into this game.

Killing is one sure-fire way to get me found early on, but it's also a definite requirement to progress my faction size and remove enemies. I think I'm going to refrain from kills initially, choosing instead to scout out some people to try and ensure they aren't the Mistborn of the Houses...that will require some Bronze, I think. If someone uses a different, or combination of metals over a night or two I'll know to stay clear of them. If they are consistant in use of one metal, they'z gonna get stabzed.

I'm assuming I don't need to bother with Iron unless I want to destroy someone's weapon? XD

I will make a point of using Zinc and Brass in conjunction to help protect myself - additional votes and reduced votes can only be a good thing for me (if I'm the one using them, ofc) when I am incapabe of being killed without a lynch...


Oh, and a heads up. I have just been informed that I will be away on the boat from Friday evening through to Monday my time this weekend. Now, if there is going to be a weekend break I should be fine, and I SHOULD have 'net access over those nights anyway, but if I do not, and there is no break, I was wondering if you would accept a set (i.e. more than one night's worth) of provisional actions just in case I cannot get online? I would obviously send these to you on Friday, so that if I am unable to play from then you will have something to go on...

Obviously, this is an unusual request, as we don't like multi-night provisional three-power actions, and I really hope it doesn't come to that, but I will understand if it's a bit of a stretch to allow it...

More plotting is to come once I get a feel for the roles...

I LOVE THIS ROLE. THANK YOU MODS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted for Alt and PB to decide on whether we'll weekend freeze and if not how to handle it. Odds are we will because no one ever plays during the weekends anymore.

Also, I'll flag whether you need to bother with iron or not.

-HD

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Merrid checks in and wonders whether Kandra receive the allomantic powers of the person whose body they consume. The answer is no, right?

Merrid, on 20 October 2010 - 02:57 AM, said:

Sweet, a Kandra. Does this mean I'm kind of an FM, or do I get their abilities or what? Not really clear on what 'impersonate' entails.

Merrid is a new alt. Wonder where this one came from.

"Impersonate" entails acting like them such that you aren't immediately found out as not being that previous person. I don't think you get their abilities, at least as far as canon goes, but I'll make sure just in case.

-HD

[Path-Shaper]

Captain Bacon response...

Fener, on 20 October 2010 - 03:35 AM, said:

Yay! I'm not anybody important!

Seriously, though. Why is this alt still around?

Also, from the initial post, it seemed like a member of the steel inquisition takes a full 4 days to recruit somebody. Is this right or am I reading it incorrectly.

With love,
the adorable pig thing

Because we like bacon, and eventually when the great forumocalypse happens, Fener will feed the denizens for a long time.

Can't clarify it anymore than the instructions do.

Drunkenly,
the malazite formerly known as HD

[Path-Shaper]

Questions that need answered:

Can pewter arms stop an Inquisitor? My feeling is that they can't. They'd get killed if they tried, and thus they simply fail like a Mistborn.
Do SI's need to use iron as one of their three allomantic allotments each night, or is it automatic that they pull and discard coin shots?
Do Kandra receive allomantic powers of the body they take over? I assume not.
If a mistborn decides, for an unknown reason, not to use iron, does his atium get used to stop a coin-shot?

Weekend freeze, clock-stoppage? I assume we can put that off towards at least Thursday to get answered though.

[Path-Shaper]

Alt is here to answer. Yay.

[HoosierDaddy]

P-S is open if you want it Alt.

[Path-Shaper]

Thanks HD

Some PM, then I will address the questions from during my night

Shadow, on 20 October 2010 - 04:08 AM, said:

Hmm, Liosan is either Silencer, or Breadmaster.

in either case, do a provisional find on him.

Noted

How you enjoying the game so far?

~Alt

Liosan, on 20 October 2010 - 04:18 AM, said:

Ugh, was halfway into my little chat with Shadow before I realised how sympish I sound. Ah well, common practice is to lynch the master, not the symp, and everyone in this game should either be a symp, or know that the man in question isn't THEIR leader, and when the votes pile up, is unlikey to be anyone else's leader, either...

Anyway, lynchable is good, as always. People hopefully won't think that a person playing the symp is someone who can only lose by being lynched!

Oh, by the by...do I get to choose the 'placement' of the charged spikes in a recruit? If so, do I know what placement does what, or is that just flavour?

Oh yes, and initial provisionals:

Use One Zinc-type and one Brass-type Hemalurgic Substitute tonight, please. For now, I will use the Brass on Fener

Just in case, of course.

Tomorrow is going to be an interesting day, ain't it just...

You get to choose the placement. When you perform the recruit you specify something along the lines of 'the brass spike should imbue copper' or whatever your choice is.

Your provisionals are noted, you have one power remaining.

There will be a weekend break, but it might be a bit shortish ie freeze will happen Friday evening American time, unfreeze Monday morning GMT.

~Alt

[Path-Shaper]

Path-Shaper, on 20 October 2010 - 04:02 AM, said:

Questions that need answered:

Can pewter arms stop an Inquisitor? My feeling is that they can't. They'd get killed if they tried, and thus they simply fail like a Mistborn.
Do SI's need to use iron as one of their three allomantic allotments each night, or is it automatic that they pull and discard coin shots?
Do Kandra receive allomantic powers of the body they take over? I assume not.
If a mistborn decides, for an unknown reason, not to use iron, does his atium get used to stop a coin-shot?

Weekend freeze, clock-stoppage? I assume we can put that off towards at least Thursday to get answered though.

1)Hmm, didn't consider this earlier. I say mistborn can guard other mistborn and SI, SI can guard mistborn. Pewterarms can only guard other mistings. A lot of actions are going to consistently fail against the power roles, if the mistings can figure that out it is actually a bit of a give away as to who the power players are.
2)I think we made iron automatic too. Three actions means he can do some thing like kill, guard and one find, guard and two finds, kill and two finds etc.
3)No
4)Yes. With unlimited iron I dont see why this would happen though.

Weekend freeze will be in effect. I will let PB freeze the clock on friday so the americans can play till their evening without the weekend freeze stigma and I will unfreeze it on Monday morning.

Merrid, on 20 October 2010 - 03:00 AM, said:

Sweet, a Kandra. Does this mean I'm kind of an FM, or do I get their abilities or what? Not really clear on what 'impersonate' entails.

Alt here, just to clarify you DO NOT get the allomantic power of whoever your mistborn shifts you into

Alt here, you can use any combination of metals (except copper and bronze), but only one of each. So you cannot perform two finds or guard two people on the same night. Just remember when you have used up one of your metals that action is no longer available to you.

Thyrllan, on 20 October 2010 - 12:55 AM, said:

Oh, wow ... powerful but in a fuckall complicated fashion. I'll need more to drink. Of course, I'll probably just get randomly lynched on Day 1, so this is likely to go to waste.

The wording of the Kandra thing forces me to ask - I have to give the Kandra the order to impersonate on say, Night 2, but can't do the Kill until Night 3?

And Atium sounds a lot like a one-shot BP, correct? Because it doesn't look like I actually choose when to use it. If I use Iron, does the Atium get pre-empted, and not used up?

Alt here - If you choose to have your Kandra impersonate someone you cannot kill that night. If your kill the following night is on the person you specified and successful your Kandra will shift. Standard FM observe then kill mechanic, only it's you doing the killing, not the FM himself. You are not obligated to shift your Kandra with each kill you make, or to follow through with the target if you specified one the previous night. In the latter case the Kandra cannot shift though.

Iron is a BP against coinshots (and only coinshots), should you burn it. Atium is a one shot BP against mistborn and automatically be used in the situations described in your role PM.

[Path-Shaper]

Liosan, on 20 October 2010 - 05:33 AM, said:

Alright, that's pretty much what I figured, thanks alt.

And that should cover it. Friday American is like Saturday morning, so if I get my provo's in on my Friday before I leave, that will definitely cover any night that crops up.

No problem

And your iron and steel strikeback ability activates automatically, so you don't have to specify them in your actions for the night. Note that if your strikeback kills someone you DO NOT gain a spike.

Shadow, on 20 October 2010 - 05:33 AM, said:

Spammin' it up in the wee hours of the night, waiting for the rest to get on is always fun. Mind you, I have no idea of the dsetting, cuz the boxed set of Mistborn I bought recently is back in Ontario... so i'm just going with the flow here RP is concerned.

nonetheless, the banter is enjoyable, and I finished all that I needed to, readings-wise, for both tomorrow and Thursday, so it's all good.

so, in short: it's good so far, lol

too early to judge how it'll go yet, though.

Cool, have fun!

PS the books aren't bad








Ok, I got to get some work done, will check in in a couple of hours again.

[HoosierDaddy]

Thanks for the clarifications, Alt.

Can't even bring up the MafiaManager, btw. Sig doesn't work for me.

[HoosierDaddy]

It might give away who the power players are, but it also doesn't tell them who they are. It could create chaos amongst them, seeing as how everyone knows their own Mistborn, but not the other two. I'm looking forward to an absolute battle royale amongst them all. Night, like I said earlier, should be a cluster-fuck of fun.

[Path-Shaper]

Liosan, on 20 October 2010 - 05:51 AM, said:

Alright, that makes sense, I guess. Oh, I can see it now: Last night, need to get a kill to get one more spike to recruit, kill fails and I get a friggin' strikeback instead. XD

Oh yes...now, I understand this was probably left deliberately vague, but...if a Mistborn attacks me, or I attack/recruit a Mistborn, then it says they use their Atium to find out all possible actions etc. Now, this implies that said Mistborn WILL SURVIVE MY ATTACK OR STRIKEBACK.

Now, what I'm curious about, is, and I'm assuming I'm not MEANT to know: is this guaranteed, or is it contingent that they burn the correct allomantic metal in order to be able to survive?

>.>

I've so far been working off the assumption that they have at least one BP each, in which case I need other people to try and take them out too (such as other Mistborn, or Steel users...and I assume this is likely if people can find other faction's leaders - who wouldn't want to take one out?) so that I can kill them. Assuming, of course, that upon their death, the Atium-born knowledge isn't passed on to their successor, which it may very well be in a Culture/31-style faction system. But, I also realised that, if this is the case, then they are pretty imba (though not quite as imba hax as I am, ofc) in terms of ALSO having the ability to use Iron. (Have you decided on my use for that, btw?) So I figure that just maybe, they have to choose to use Iron in order to defend themselves instead of having a catch-all BP.

Anyway...just thought I'd share. I have such an isolationist role, lol.

Which reminds me (once again, I assume I'm not meant to know...), I've been wondering about player comms. You know, just in case I choose to claim comms at some point.

You can call this post the "info-fishing post", I think! >.<

Path-Shaper, on 20 October 2010 - 05:40 AM, said:

Liosan, on 20 October 2010 - 05:33 AM, said:

.....

And your iron and steel strikeback ability activates automatically, so you don't have to specify them in your actions for the night. Note that if your strikeback kills someone you DO NOT gain a spike.

There's the only response you'll get, Sir Fisherman.

-HD

[Path-Shaper]

Korabas checking in....

Korabas, on 20 October 2010 - 06:15 AM, said:

Allright, thanks. So, this is sort of a classic Finder role, yes? Limited use, but a finder. I'm finding some subtle irony here

It is the canon-aspect Mafiaized, yes.

Hope you have fun!

-HD

[Path-Shaper]

More of one of hour newest players:

Gothabas:

Korabas, on 20 October 2010 - 06:28 AM, said:

I have a feeling I shouldn't talk more often than once every 8 hours or something, lest I cross another unwritten rule. Not much to do on Day 1, is there? At least this early.

I am wondering about the really short night duration, I think provisional PMs will be in use a LOT. Then again, most people chose their night action during the day in the W40k game anyway.

BTW. Will you be drinking on the job?

The only way to discover unwritten rules is by breaking them or seeing someone else break them.

Provisionals are the norm as opposed to not, and are generally acceptable. We'll let you know when they aren't.

And, yes. I am. Currently.

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Tiamatha checks in with a Comm question: We don't have any Comm's right?

Tiamatha, on 20 October 2010 - 07:03 AM, said:

understood, so a full on FM, should be good to play, a few questions cos im new to this, if the person i impersonate has an ability am i able to use it? will i still receive messages from my vitcims house? can i reply to those messages to keep in char?

is there out of thread chat involved in this game?

[Path-Shaper]

Fuck it. We don't have comms.

Tiamatha, on 20 October 2010 - 07:03 AM, said:

understood, so a full on FM, should be good to play, a few questions cos im new to this, if the person i impersonate has an ability am i able to use it? will i still receive messages from my vitcims house? can i reply to those messages to keep in char?

is there out of thread chat involved in this game?

You can't use that ability as that person is dead. The rest is fishing and I can't answer it.

Have fun!

-HD

[Path-Shaper]

Thanks for holding the fort HD

H.D., on 20 October 2010 - 05:42 AM, said:

Thanks for the clarifications, Alt.

Can't even bring up the MafiaManager, btw. Sig doesn't work for me.

Linky

H.D., on 20 October 2010 - 06:05 AM, said:

It might give away who the power players are, but it also doesn't tell them who they are. It could create chaos amongst them, seeing as how everyone knows their own Mistborn, but not the other two. I'm looking forward to an absolute battle royale amongst them all. Night, like I said earlier, should be a cluster-fuck of fun.

Part of the fun is that 1) the mistborn and SI are indistinguishable from each other from a misting point of view and 2) there is a misting role that the power roles can try claim for almost whatever way they get outed.



Some thoughts so far - Silencer is playing very different from how I expected the role to be used. He's going for more of a survival predator than a survival cultist. If he leaves it too late, he might not get a recruit at all. He doesn't realise that only his strike-back has the possibility of him being revealed - the mistborn can get a find on him should they attack him (possibly getting themselves killed in the process), but his attack cannot give him away in and of itself. I thought it was pretty clear in his role pm that only his strikeback might expose him, what do you guys think?

[HoosierDaddy]

Quote

Should your life be threatened at night, you will attempt to kill your attacker. This may result in your identity being revealed to your attacker, or a member of their faction. You can only be forced out of the game through a successful lynch. Your recruit will not have this ability.

That's pretty blatant. But, it also takes reading a couple times to realize that being attacked at night solely refers to the Mistborn, as he is immune to Coin-shots vigs, etc. Something he'll have to discover. If you come into the game with knowledge of the universe, you'd assume SI's are just straight bad-ass, he might not realize how powerful they are.

[Path-Shaper]

Silchas Ruin, on 20 October 2010 - 08:44 AM, said:

Can i get more steel and coins or is this just a one shot vig thing?

Oops, meant to put something in the OP about the allomantic supplies being locked down. What you have is all you get.

dktorode, on 20 October 2010 - 08:42 AM, said:

heh heh heh

yes ive been put in many games without actually being told but this time i thankfully was forewarned...

Great, have fun