[Path-Shaper]

 Path-Shaper, on 20 October 2010 - 11:13 PM, said:

Outstanding questions for alt:

How does the Tin ability work against Mistborn and SI, when used by a Tineye, a Mistborn, or a SI (they'd never realistically use it because they don't care what faction anyone is on)?

Can the Steel Inquisition use the same metal more than once per night (aka can he kill multiple times per night)?

What happens when Bronze is used on a Kandra or someone that didn't burn metal? Does the user get a "No Metal Burned" result or a generic "Fail" result (as if guarded)?

I tried to reply to some of these last night, but my internet kept timing out.

1) It fails.

2) No, three different metals - similar to the rule about the mistborn only being able to burn one of each type of metal.

3) 'Could not detect any metals being burnt'

Gonna post the PMs and see about the resolve.

[Path-Shaper]

Korabas, on 21 October 2010 - 05:24 AM, said:

Allright, please Find Galain.


PS. Second game and again my faction gets hit first. Sigh.

Don't worry too much, losing one member is far from a death-knell in a faction game.

Your provisional is noted.

Liosan, on 21 October 2010 - 05:13 AM, said:

Certainly. Had occurred to me, but as I'm going to be on the 'official' end of night, I figured alt would make it on in time.

IF I can use the same metal twice on one night:

Use Bronze on Merrid. Use Steel (Bronze Spike) on Silchas Ruin. And use Steel (Steel Spike) on Korabas.

ELSE:

Use Bronze on Merrid. Use Steel on Silchas Ruin. And still use the Brass on Fener.


Thanks.

You can only use one of each kind of power per night. No double kills/guards/finds. Going with your second provisional, I assume you want a Bronze spike on Silchas?

Liosan, on 21 October 2010 - 05:16 AM, said:

Oh, also, I should inform you:

As I was floating around the forum on my primary account, I noticed that Vengeance had posted something in Spoiler Heaven, that was subsequently deleted (hence how I saw it), and so it ended up in the Forgotten Warren of deleted posts.

I haven't looked at the contents, of course, but presumably he was behind Mockra, and is now dead.

Just letting you know. I'll try to avoid browsing the main page from now on when a game is in progress, in case anyone else posts out-of-alt and then deletes their message...

- Silencer

Ok, thanks for the consideration

[Path-Shaper]

Thanks, please reply to Liosan for #2 and prepare the Tin abilities as necessary.

I'm going to crash, it's late here and I think you have it under control. Tons of actions are missing so night will have to time out.

[Path-Shaper]

Ok, still missing one or two actions, so night will time out. It's gonna take a better part of an hour to resolve and write up all the PMS, so the timing works out well

Resolution as things stand at the moment:

Guarding:

Shadow is guarded

Faction Find:

Korabas on Galain (fails)
Thyrllan on Tulas (Elariel)
Korvalain on Liosan (fails)
Galain on Gamelon (fails)
Emurlahn on Thyr (fails)

Wow, every faction leader and the SI was targetted for a faction find

Role Find:

Liosan on Merrid - no metals burnt
Shadow on Liosan - fails due to guard

Kills:

Gamelon on Fener - Fener dies
Thyr on Lio - fails, atium is burnt, Lio's identity is reveal (tough choice for Thyr to make now)
Telas on Serc - Serc dies
Steel on Silchas - Silchas dies, bronze spike gained

[Path-Shaper]

Player by Player:

Gamelon

-1 Pewter
-1 Steel

No other info

Telas

-1 Steel (no more steel)

Omtose

Korabas

-1 Tin

No result

Serc

Death PM

Thyrrlan

-1 Tin
-1 Steel
-1 Atium

Tulas is Elariel
Lio is the SI

Silchas

Death PM

Fener

Death PM

Tulas

Korv

-1 Tin

no result

Merrid

Galain

-1 Tin

no result

Ruse

Sukhul

Shadow

-1 Bronze

No metals burnt

Emurlahn

-1 Tin

no result

Tiamatha

Liosan

no find on merrid
1 Bronze spike

[Path-Shaper]

And that's a night

Venture taking the early lead numbers wise. Thyr with the tough job of getting Lio lynched without giving himself away, a couple of other mistings and mistborn who might be able to figure out that the identities of other mistborn or the SI if they guess that is why their actions failed.

[Path-Shaper]

Shadow, on 21 October 2010 - 07:41 AM, said:

ah, boo.

Sorry, that's how it goes.

Tiamatha, on 21 October 2010 - 07:50 AM, said:

a good night for venture, 2 down on both of our rival houses, if we can nip out the inquistion we should be on course for an easy victory

do we need more than the other 2 houses put together or just more than either individually?

You need to have acheived numerical superiority over the remainder of the thread, with the SI dead. So more than the other two put together.

Korabas, on 21 October 2010 - 07:44 AM, said:

Hmm. So he's either Inquisitor, a Smoker, or a rival house mistborn... which makes him a good target for a lynch. How much of my role can I reveal in the thread? Can I reveal that I got this info?

You can reveal whatever you feel like revealing, just no quoting anything from messages with me.

Korabas, on 21 October 2010 - 07:54 AM, said:

Oh and... reading through the Rules, I see that copper only blocks identification of allomantic powers, yes? It doesn't block alignment searches, or does it?
If it doesn't... I don't see another metal that could do it. Meaning that Galain is from another faction. The hidden faction. Hmmm.

Copper does not block Tin.


Silencer should really read the rules - Merrid not burning anything could very well mean he is a mistborn burning copper. Gonna be an interesting day for poor lio

Liosan, on 21 October 2010 - 07:26 AM, said:

None at all? Damn, someone missed out on submitting an action, or has one of the rarer ones. At least I can be fairly sure he's not a Mistborn...

Thanks PS!

It's a pleasure

[Path-Shaper]

Tulas Shorn, on 21 October 2010 - 08:22 AM, said:

I want to know what Gamelon has for dinner.

2 pieces of bronze left on day 3.

Seeking of Gamelon, confirmed

Korabas, on 21 October 2010 - 08:05 AM, said:

Got to watch Galain closely, then. If he gets killed this night, it's like he's shouting he's a FM. That's assuming they need 1 night action to prep someone.

You need to watch everyone closely

[Path-Shaper]

interested to see how Thyr uses the info of Lio's identity. Even more interesting is how the other mistborn will react. They should realise that he no longer has a BP. If Galain is really smart he will try shift his Kandra into Thyr (assuming Gam doesn't vig him tonight), since then he will essentially have two factions following him. Damn near guaranteed win if he pulls it off, but lots of planning and a bunch of things that could go wrong.

[Path-Shaper]

Korabas, on 21 October 2010 - 08:54 AM, said:

Well, of course! But for Mafia, 'vigilant' is standard, pretty much like sleeping through a school play. In any case, I've gone through the roles post a few times and most definately can't find another metal that could counter Tin.
So a find-resistant role... or someone did Guard on me. Shit. Not as definite as I thought it to be.


I assume there's to be no communication within the House off-thread? And I suppose that like in the WH40k game, my mistborn doesn't know I'm his misting?

[Path-Shaper]

Liosan, on 21 October 2010 - 09:36 AM, said:

Merrid's nigh-symping of me is worrying. So far I've been a prominent player, and I can just feel that damned "Look! He led a lynch an this guy is symping him" twist coming on...I've been trying to tone back on the pushing, and will continue to do so. Offer up opinions on other's thoughts more than make my own, if I can.

Merrid also had to die. My only concern is that he's a Mistborn, but my result last night kinda-sorta alleviates that. Though it also increases my paranoia tenfold, given the counter to Bronze available to Mistborns. And anyone who targets a Bronze user who used their power. Argh.

I am, however, going to play off this Mockra thing for all it's worth. Thinking of symping him up post-death (Sorry Vengey), with things like "Argh, I can hear Mockra shouting at us that we should be wary of Shadow for his fearmongering" or other equally silly kinds of statements.

Hrm...

Ok, Good luck

[Silchas Ruin]

 Vengeance, on 21 October 2010 - 03:52 AM, said:

 Path-Shaper, on 20 October 2010 - 01:00 PM, said:

Tiamatha, on 20 October 2010 - 12:06 PM, said:

sorry...worth a try tho lol

No problems. What your thoughts on the game so far?






One guy with a hunch is not exactly all over, but yeah, it does look like he is pinging one or two people early on.

I see they twigged onto the fact that there are more roles than players, I wonder if anyone will pick up that I said there would be balanced factions. I did say that somewhere right?

You did say that but the fucking morons never fucking read the mother fucking Opening scene. NEVER EVER FUCKING READ IT... THE FUCKING TEAMS WERE EVEN IT WOULDN"T FUCKING MATTER IF THERE WAS A FUCKING FM AS THEY ARE GOING TO BE ON A FUCKING TEAM...

If I ever run a fucking game I am going to make the mother fuckers pass a fucking quiz so that they can fucking get there fucking roles.

hahaha


-dkt

[Silchas Ruin]

So i was some random kill night one?.....didint even get to post anything other than im busy....ouch.

bloody silencer


-dkt

[Path-Shaper]

 Silchas Ruin, on 21 October 2010 - 10:30 AM, said:

So i was some random kill night one?.....didint even get to post anything other than im busy....ouch.

bloody silencer


-dkt

Yeah, poor luck there.

What do you think of the setup?

[Path-Shaper]

Ruse, on 21 October 2010 - 10:42 AM, said:

apologies if you were waiting for me at night.

no action every night unless specifically provisioned before hand.

It took me the better part of an hour to do the resolution, so night did not get held up much by outstanding actions.

Provisional Noted

Tiamatha, on 21 October 2010 - 09:52 AM, said:

just some thoughts on who is who and such, as i have no one else i can talk to about it lol you have to listen not expecting a reply as that would give info, just saw on the last mafia spoiler thread that the players sent you guys there guesses and they put them in the spoiler thread so thought id do the same

my current crazy theory atm is that emurlahn might be the mistborn for house deveaux

why? mockra (who was comfirmed deveaux) did his best to get himself took out of the game, he played well over the top, maybe as a way to shift all attention away from someone else?

the only person with votes at the time was emurlahn

why would you take the bullet for someone else? going from the info i got, i only recieved the name of my mistborn, im assuming that mockra got the same info, and seeing emur up for the vote at 1st tried to vote for someone else, but as that failed and everyone jumped on him, decided to self destruct to protect his leader

now if im correct, which i may well not be, should i say anything? its not my mistborn leader, and someone i need to help get rid of, but i need to concentrate on the inquistion,

inquistion victims keep there powers, which would make an inquistion mistborn incredibly dangerous, especialy if the mistborns original house is unaware that theyve been recruited

so untill the inquestion is defeated i have to keep quiet, not only on any mistborn suspicions i have, but any misting possibilitys

It is pretty standard to type your thoughts out to pathshaper, sometimes it helps to get your thoughts in order by putting them down in a spoiler message. So you are welcome to prattle away as much as you like You won't really get any reply other than something generic like 'good luck' though, due to our superhuman impartiality.

Good luck!

[Serc]

Damn killed by my own team mate
also i was right about Liosan

[Path-Shaper]

Telas, on 21 October 2010 - 11:12 AM, said:

Well, there it is.

If Serc was indeed Bent, then we have the perfect what goes around comes around. I.E., we both managed to bone our own team through selfish vig use.
If it wasn't Bent, well, whoops.

I'm not sorry I did it, because seriously, the odds were very much against me hitting a member of my own team, especially after seeing the lynch was a team member.Seriously, how unlucky can we be...

[Serc]

Bent? i feel insulted Also im pretty sure my play style isnt that close to bents

[Path-Shaper]

Galain, on 21 October 2010 - 01:23 PM, said:

A failed theory, as I didnt take the time to read the - roles pm post - where everyone knows who I am. duh.

Anyway, thoughts so far.

Pretty good start, still have a full team.

Tulas may be on my team (I know, I flip and revise and change all the time based on whats happening now. lol)

Still thinking Sakul is mine.

I am not liking that I couldnt see Gamelons faction. that means that he is either a smoker, a mistborn, or someone who used an action on a smoker or mistborn.

Hmm.

well, we'll have to try a differenet tactic tonight, wont we?

Galain, on 21 October 2010 - 01:31 PM, said:

no, thats not right. Copper just hides allomanic (sp?) powers, not house alignment. That means I was gaurded? hmmmm. With 3 kills, I assume that the gaurder, whoever, will switch his target, so I should have a free shot. Should have, lol.

hmmm. still thinking about the best strategy. Im a bit slow, but I will get it figured out.

Galain, on 21 October 2010 - 12:49 PM, said:

yes, I got that. I meant - 3 or 4 bursts of - find and kill once, find and kill again, find and kill again, etc. but thanks for the clarification.

Galain, on 21 October 2010 - 01:38 PM, said:

NIGHT 2 ACTION LIST (Provisional)

Burn Copper
Burn Iron

Burn Pewter - gaurd Gamelon
Burn Tin - find Omtose's faction

(If I find Omtoses faction to be that other than my own, I plan on killing him and moving My Kandra over to that body)

Hope I dont get guarded again.

Noted

[Path-Shaper]

What the hell just happened to the OP? I clicked edit to add Bent's actions and it disappeared?