[Sukul Ankhadu]

Alkend, on 07 October 2010 - 01:37 AM, said:

Sukul Ankhadu, on 07 October 2010 - 01:13 AM, said:

Has to be Alkend and Barghast. We were civil and addressing different issues.

I've been completely fucking civil.

Fair enough. It seemeed like you were getting a bit irritated, but I could be wrong. I certainly do not have a degree in psychoanalysis, or in anything yet for that matter. One day.

[Rashan]

Barghast, on 06 October 2010 - 11:33 PM, said:

And while my claims to fame may not earn me points in the overall credibility department (they will with everyone who targeted me), they aren't going to hurt me. Because who the hell gives up information just to put themselves in a worse position?

Perhaps someone making a mistake?

I have to say I agree with Alk on this one, stating on thread that you fended off several night actions does nothing but paint you in a bad light.

[Liosan]

I have been putting most of his Agressivness down to his play style. For me questionable aggressiveness comes into play later on in games. This early there are still to many variables to be able to properly quantify a move virsus play style.

[Barghast]

It's amusing that I would be less believable after revealing some small information than I would be after revealing nothing, as most of you have done. Of course, I think I have figured out that most of you do believe me, but it's easier to just ignore the person giving a sermon on the street corner rather than pretend you believe him. All good.

[Alkend]

Barghast, on 07 October 2010 - 04:53 AM, said:

It's amusing that I would be less believable after revealing some small information than I would be after revealing nothing, as most of you have done. Of course, I think I have figured out that most of you do believe me, but it's easier to just ignore the person giving a sermon on the street corner rather than pretend you believe him. All good.

That ... almost verges on incoherent.

It certainly makes no sense - if your "revealing some small information" was actually true, revealing it was actually a very bad idea. Which is why I'm inclined to disbelieve - no one comes out and talks about how they know they were subjected to two Night Actions, much less someone who isn't even under serious suspicion, or even subjected to a single vote. You've got no real pressure on you, but you play the "Look, this shows how importantly Inno I am!" card? Without anyone voting for you?

Fuck that static.

Vote Barghast

[Alkend]

Actually, I think that there is already a vote on Barghast, I'll have to check. But my point is exactly the same - there's no real pressure on him, and he's making a major reveal of information about himself? Trying to pretend to be a high level RI?

Not legit. Sounds like a serious bluff.

[Alkend]

Ah, yes, one vote from Meanas against Barghast.

So he's been voted on by the one guy no one trusts. Yeah, no wonder Barghast is feeling the heat.

[Path-Shaper]

there are exactly 11 hours left
vote count in a minute

[Path-Shaper]

17 people are still alive (Alkend, Ampelas, Barghast, D'riss , Eloth, Galayn Lord, Korvalain, Kalse, Karatallid, LIosan, Meanas, Osseric, Olar Ethil, Rashan, Sukul Ankhadu, Tellan, Tulas Shorn)

takes 9 votes to lynch, 0r 9 to go to night


2 votes for Meanas (D'riss, Liosan)
1 vote for Galayn Lord (Osseric)
2 votes for Barghast (Meanas, Alkend)

-ment

[Alkend]

It's sad that I look at that list of names, and only a half-dozen leave any impression as to game play.

Anyways, I'm headed to bed. I can only hope that people might see the virtue of lynching a guy who played down a scum faction and then supposedly revealed that he survived Night Actions, either of which is sort of fucked up. Especially the second one. In earlier days of Mafia, that would quickly be called out for the blunder it is, and pretty quick lead to a lynch.

Hell, anyone who was complaining that we need a lynch if only for information had better be all over this, or have a damned good argument as to why they changed their mind, and aren't willing to vote for a good candidate.

[Barghast]

Cry more, Alkend. You whine more than anyone else I've seen playing this game.

You've also shown an inability to look at the facts. I've had a vote for a while now. Skim much?

[Ampelas]

To be honest of the three people who seem to be candidates for today I could vote for any. Bargast's play has been very pushy and Alkend raises valid points about his out of nowhere reveal. Why mention that you were targetted at night and imply that knowing you were targetted must make you town? Galayn Lord and Meanas both fit what would be valid playstyle for jester at this point. I'm am starting to think that we should just say fuckit and take the risk. It is early enough in the game that we can afford to mess up. I also dont think we are going to get a faction CF today. Path Shaper has mentioned interference a couple of times and says that it is being caused by one of the xenos. So I think it is likely that the conditions to be met mean we have to lynch someone before we start getting CFs. Maybe guarding the person would also work. With that in mind there is a chance that any xeno CF is going to further paralyse the thread with what if we have already hit eldar type thinking. We are going to have to take some risks. Statistically now is the best day to do so.

vote Bargast

He is probably the safest of the three. I will be around a bit longer now and again before the end of day, I can switch to one of the other two if the momentum moves in that direction.

[Barghast]

Sigh, well I'll just lay it out since people equate talking to scummy.

Last night someone gave me an ability to permanently bar the Genesplicer Cult from afflicting my target. I was going to use it on the Human leader (side bar, I believe all Humans started knowing the leader, but not sure).

However, I was also attacked last night and lost the only protection I had.

So... yeah, I'll probably die tonight, barring a <3 healer <3 but I am going to at least save our fearless leader from "Cult"-ivation.

[Barghast]

Gotta love the Eldar this game, great way to play, really. Lynch whoever you want, including the team, right Ampelas?

Zz, no clue who I'm gonna vote, I'll be back long before timer. Discuss/call me a liar/kiss my ass away...

[D'riss]

@barghast - I have to say for someone who pushed forward the ideas of necros being unstoppable killing machines with bps and killing powers to claim you were on the receiving end of 2 night actions is somewhat ridiculous. Especially in response to alkend claiming you are a necro. If there is some other night action other than losing bp's were you are informed can someone point it out because if i was modding i certainly wouldnt inform people they were guarded, healed or on the end of a find. We know there is a cult as well, but unless it was successful you wouldnt likely tell the target about it, and if FM you wouldnt know until you were dead.

So we have three valid lynch targets to sort out in 11 hours.

Meanas (and by extension korv) - Playing very incoherantly. Seems to be begging for a lynch. Followed closely by korvalain twice on day 1 with weak excuses. Survived night 1 even though I felt certain some people would try and take him out after his almost blatant confession to being eldar.

GL - A bit of a weak case, but there seems to be definite resistance to his lynch. Alkend has repeatedly stated that the case is bad, which of course makes everyone look again. The shift to osseric didnt make a whole lot of sense when both seemed valid and osseric had more votes.

Barghast - Playing very aggressive. Two pissing contests in two days and a reveal of info on day 2 when under no pressure. Something seems off.

I have my vote though were i feel its best placed. I think meanas is faking eldar and people are being too cautious with those doing so as it will lead us to having players like olar and korv seemingly trying to get lynched to make us wary of our votes. My biggest concern over his lynch though is the ambiguity of the cf. The cf is either xeno or human so we are never going to be certain which xeno faction we have removed a player from. I would urge anyone with a night kill or vig to remove korv that way if meanas does indeed return as xeno just to be safe. Unlike most factions if they were eldar then the most likely third member of that faction is in fact olar who voted meanas day 1, because lets face it the eldar want to be lynched and would not hesitate to vote each other off. And he may not have been acting on day 1.

[D'riss]

Barghast, on 07 October 2010 - 07:16 AM, said:

Sigh, well I'll just lay it out since people equate talking to scummy.

Last night someone gave me an ability to permanently bar the Genesplicer Cult from afflicting my target. I was going to use it on the Human leader (side bar, I believe all Humans started knowing the leader, but not sure).

However, I was also attacked last night and lost the only protection I had.

So... yeah, I'll probably die tonight, barring a <3 healer <3 but I am going to at least save our fearless leader from "Cult"-ivation.

Cross post!!!!

Well that strikes you off my list. Seriously Bargie, why did you reveal any of that? You could have been subtle about it, or just kept your trap shut. Silence isnt just a tactic of scum in a faction game, its vital in games like this that the innos try hard to not get lynched and lurking is a viable tactic for them just as it is for the scum. Revealling info when you didnt need to is just bad play.

[Tulas Shorn]

Korvalain, on 06 October 2010 - 04:48 PM, said:

would like to say its galayn not gay lord lol bit of a fraudian slip there

you are kidding me right

Galayn Lord has been called Gaylord since...well... since forever



catching up

[Meanas]

That's a bad lie there, Barghast. I'm fairly certain someone did target me but I've been told nothing about it. It must be part of the 'interference with communications' that probably most players have in play, with the exception of probably Necrons and maaaaybe Eldar. Right now it would only seem that you're just making the 2 night actions up.

I am reinforced in my conviction, though I'm a bit uneasy about getting tunnel vision. Seeing as I can't be certain at this point, I'm looking forward to the CF should you be lynched. Right now it seems that today it will be either you or me. I hope more people vote than yesterday.

[D'riss]

Meanas, on 07 October 2010 - 07:47 AM, said:

That's a bad lie there, Barghast. I'm fairly certain someone did target me but I've been told nothing about it. It must be part of the 'interference with communications' that probably most players have in play, with the exception of probably Necrons and maaaaybe Eldar. Right now it would only seem that you're just making the 2 night actions up.

I am reinforced in my conviction, though I'm a bit uneasy about getting tunnel vision. Seeing as I can't be certain at this point, I'm looking forward to the CF should you be lynched. Right now it seems that today it will be either you or me. I hope more people vote than yesterday.

So now you are revealing you were on the receiving end of a night action as well? Why what exactly was it you were trying to do that you didnt acomplish? No one died, but then you couldnt be certain they didnt survive by bp so you obviously arent a killer. You arent a healer or guard either as those actions are never certain. Barghast claims to have received an ability so you arent the teacher and i doubt you would have granted him an ability either. That leaves finder, cult, FM or whatever the eldar do.

Judging by how you dismissed Barghasts defence so quickly I am not even guessing that you are not town, I am now pretty much certain of it.

[Path-Shaper]

7 hours, 45 minutes left.

17 people are still alive (Alkend, Ampelas, Barghast, D'riss , Eloth, Galayn Lord, Korvalain, Kalse, Karatallid, LIosan, Meanas, Osseric, Olar Ethil, Rashan, Sukul Ankhadu, Tellan, Tulas Shorn)

takes 9 votes to lynch, 0r 9 to go to night


2 votes for Meanas (D'riss, Liosan)
1 vote for Galayn Lord (Osseric)
3 votes for Barghast (Meanas, Alkend, Ampelas)


- T.