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#41 User is offline   Ulrik 

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Posted 20 September 2010 - 08:51 AM

So, leave it now please. No more. Not interested. Not caring. PM works well...




For Tool - wasnt he just First Sword of one clan? My memories are iced. But I think that SE will bring back some his GotMism powers with final climax and Kilava-badass :)
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Posted 20 September 2010 - 09:11 AM

Hetan has read the last book and hints at Tool being an absolute badass in the last book, cannot wait!
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Posted 20 September 2010 - 09:16 AM

View PostTattersail, on 20 September 2010 - 09:11 AM, said:

Hetan has read the last book and hints at Tool being an absolute badass in the last book, cannot wait!





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Posted 20 September 2010 - 10:04 AM

Kilava is alive after 300,000yrs because Onrack painted her on some cave wall, and what is painted has some magic properties. Neither knew that at that time, and the nest day they Ritualed and blasted the 4 Tyrants gathering for some streetfighter action.

While the hag Ethil chose to become undead like her adopted spawn, Kilava has evolved during the ages and grown, as Dust of Dreams noted.

She talked about flinting a new sword from the mountain ranges end of Memories of Ice and aspecting it for him.

I still haven't worked out why Tool freed Raest. Was he compelled to by the Empress? If clanless and thus not really controllable like the rest of his brethern, why did he?
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Posted 20 September 2010 - 10:33 AM

Hey I missed some drama, wth? I'd love to know the logic behind what Worrywort said, if someone could PM me about it I'd appreciate it :)

Anyways, quote-fu for the win, he's not a Bonecaster, though has a strong tie to Tellan as the chosen champion of an entire people.
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Posted 20 September 2010 - 04:01 PM

View PostUlrik, on 20 September 2010 - 08:51 AM, said:

So, leave it now please. No more. Not interested. Not caring. PM works well...




For Tool - wasnt he just First Sword of one clan? My memories are iced. But I think that SE will bring back some his GotMism powers with final climax and Kilava-badass :)




No, he was definitely the First Sword of all the T'lan Imass. Enough evidence of that in DoD when he meets T'lan Imass that weren't part of his clan and they still talk about him as their First Sword
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Posted 20 September 2010 - 05:15 PM

Or that T'lann Imass with the swords in her chest who survived Assail and meets Envy in MoI and is Kerluhn( I think) and also calls him the First Sword.
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Posted 20 September 2010 - 05:56 PM

Oh yeah, I remember now...
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Posted 21 September 2010 - 10:02 PM

View PostHetan, on 07 September 2010 - 07:27 AM, said:

View PostAptorian, on 07 September 2010 - 07:04 AM, said:

The GotM Tool was a hell of a lot more powerful than the T'lan Imass seem to be later on in the books. He had a magic killing warren that stretched across half a continent.

Maybe being a First Sword grants special abilities or maybe it's best to just not think too much about it.


Just to whet your appetites a bit - TCG delivers - big time! :)


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Posted 22 September 2010 - 07:14 AM

Just to clarify Tool's position.

'He is a champion of sorts, isn't he?'
'Among the T'lan Imass, Tool is something unique. You have no idea of the power - the strength - he possesses.'(MoI)
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Posted 22 September 2010 - 07:30 AM

View PostHetan, on 22 September 2010 - 07:14 AM, said:

Just to clarify Tool's position.

'He is a champion of sorts, isn't he?'
'Among the T'lan Imass, Tool is something unique. You have no idea of the power - the strength - he possesses.'(MoI)


You are a harsh, harsh, Mistress. :)

Hetan's cryptic statements about Tool makes me think that he is going to end Olar Ethil. This has a flavor that reminds me of Erikson.
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Posted 22 September 2010 - 08:05 AM

immense, Hetan, I like it. Tool the Badass!!
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Posted 22 September 2010 - 11:34 PM

Interesting, I was always under the impression that Tool was holding back, first with the fight against Mok in MoI, and then with the Senan's challenges in DoD (I don't think it was a bluff when he asked Bakal if it was alright for a Warleader to slay a thousand of his warriors just to prove it point, heh)
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Posted 23 September 2010 - 06:08 AM

View PostErayle, on 22 September 2010 - 11:34 PM, said:

Interesting, I was always under the impression that Tool was holding back, first with the fight against Mok in MoI,


He wasn't holding back, the top ranked Seguleh are just that awesome. Mok is a rival to the 1st position.
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Posted 23 September 2010 - 01:27 PM

View PostHetan, on 22 September 2010 - 07:14 AM, said:

Just to clarify Tool's position.

'He is a champion of sorts, isn't he?'
'Among the T'lan Imass, Tool is something unique. You have no idea of the power - the strength - he possesses.'(MoI)



In a sense, T'ool was th Mortal Sword of the entire Imass race, and then the T'lan Imass. In theory, he's the martial champion of the entire tellan ritual.
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Posted 17 January 2011 - 06:26 PM

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View PostErayle, on 22 September 2010 - 11:34 PM, said:

Interesting, I was always under the impression that Tool was holding back, first with the fight against Mok in MoI,


He wasn't holding back, the top ranked Seguleh are just that awesome. Mok is a rival to the 1st position.


Now he has rage to power him. I keep thnking Icari-tool when I think of him.
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Posted 17 January 2011 - 06:47 PM

View PostJenisapt Rul, on 23 September 2010 - 06:08 AM, said:

View PostErayle, on 22 September 2010 - 11:34 PM, said:

Interesting, I was always under the impression that Tool was holding back, first with the fight against Mok in MoI,


He wasn't holding back, the top ranked Seguleh are just that awesome. Mok is a rival to the 1st position.


Tool was fighting Mok down to Moks level.

Mok proved to be the superior swordsman, but Tool was not using any of his other powers. It was a battle of sword skills, not overall potency.
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Posted 18 January 2011 - 04:33 AM

View PostBlacksox, on 17 January 2011 - 06:47 PM, said:

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View PostErayle, on 22 September 2010 - 11:34 PM, said:

Interesting, I was always under the impression that Tool was holding back, first with the fight against Mok in MoI,


He wasn't holding back, the top ranked Seguleh are just that awesome. Mok is a rival to the 1st position.


Tool was fighting Mok down to Moks level.

Mok proved to be the superior swordsman, but Tool was not using any of his other powers. It was a battle of sword skills, not overall potency.


However, Tool's other powers are most likely latent abilities. He isn't like Dassem, or Rake, where you are thinking "umm, why doesn't he just blast his opponent into oblivion rather than swordfight him? I think Tool is just an amazing swordsman, who happened to be granted powers of longevity and nullification by the Tellan ritual. From what we saw, Mok was the superior swordsman. Perhaps Tool wasn't really defeated by Mok, and he could have kept on going, sustaining larger injuries and being maintained by the Ritual. But for the purposes of the duel fought in MoI, Mok was better. As Rel told us in RotCG, Seguleh duels don't hafta go to the death to be conclusive.
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Posted 18 January 2011 - 05:33 AM

View PostWhiskeyJackDaniels, on 18 January 2011 - 04:33 AM, said:

View PostBlacksox, on 17 January 2011 - 06:47 PM, said:

View PostJenisapt Rul, on 23 September 2010 - 06:08 AM, said:

View PostErayle, on 22 September 2010 - 11:34 PM, said:

Interesting, I was always under the impression that Tool was holding back, first with the fight against Mok in MoI,


He wasn't holding back, the top ranked Seguleh are just that awesome. Mok is a rival to the 1st position.


Tool was fighting Mok down to Moks level.

Mok proved to be the superior swordsman, but Tool was not using any of his other powers. It was a battle of sword skills, not overall potency.


However, Tool's other powers are most likely latent abilities. He isn't like Dassem, or Rake, where you are thinking "umm, why doesn't he just blast his opponent into oblivion rather than swordfight him? I think Tool is just an amazing swordsman, who happened to be granted powers of longevity and nullification by the Tellan ritual. From what we saw, Mok was the superior swordsman. Perhaps Tool wasn't really defeated by Mok, and he could have kept on going, sustaining larger injuries and being maintained by the Ritual. But for the purposes of the duel fought in MoI, Mok was better. As Rel told us in RotCG, Seguleh duels don't hafta go to the death to be conclusive.


Mok defeated Tool and he makes no excuses for it, but since I am a fanboy I will make excuses for him. He most certainly says he is being weakened by Silverfox. He still manages to blow a hole in the city wall that hedge and the bridgeburner's follow in his wake. He doesn't use any such ability on Mok. Tool sees the ability/artistry of Mok as the better swordsmen. In my heart as a fanboy Tool would be the winner should they meet right now. At the end of DoD.

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