[Slow Ben]

Gothos, on 15 March 2011 - 01:53 PM, said:

Slow Ben, on 15 March 2011 - 01:38 PM, said:

They dont show the damage numbers on the 360 like they did in Origins.

Disappointing.

Try enabling it in options, I had to as it was disabled by default on the PC.
Also, get a PC.

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Anybody else have any problems with glitches.

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During Merrills quests I go with her to get the Elven dagger so she can fix the mirror, give it to her, and the quest ends. The next time i go see her she's crying in front of the mirror and i'm consoling her. Is this just really bad storytelling or did mine mess up?

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What did she cry about, that it doesn't work or what? There's plenty of wrong in her personal questline in general, I'm not much surprised she's crying, but can't help you if I don't know what she's crying about

@Tapper - what quest to rescue a nobleman's daughter?

Thats just it, I have no idea. I'm assuming she failed in whatever it was she was trying to do, but it never says.

And thanks, i'll check that when i get home.

@Tapper. Yeah, she's gone on mine too and i'm on console. Gothos, in act 3 you get a letter asking you to find her on the Wounded Coast and she is nowhere to be seen.

[Gothos]

Hm. I never got that letter across two playthroughs, I think.

[Garak]

Merril is crying about something that hasn't happened yet at that point

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it's her reaction to her quest line ends with her either cast out of the clan (again) or with her clan dead at your feet

. It's a bug.


And yeah the nobleman's daughter quest is also bugged. I found the spot and there's a mercenary standing there but that's it - nothing happens and he doesn't even notice me.

By the way has anyone managed to become the

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new Viscount

?

This post has been edited by Garak: 15 March 2011 - 09:38 PM

[Gothos]

Garak, on 15 March 2011 - 09:36 PM, said:

By the way has anyone managed to become the

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new Viscount

?

yep.

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you have to side with templars to get their support. cullen and the others will then bow before you after you statualize meredith. works even for a mage.

[Garak]

I thought that was it. However I usually fall on the side of the mages (except when they go loony). Which is funny since mages in DA are like psykers in 40k and I have a hair trigger when around those.

[Gothos]

Yeah, as far as templars are sometimes kind of dicks, it really IS neccessary in this game. I mean, holy shit, you don't need a Blight to cause total mayhem, just get a few mages to go postal. It's insane. I have a hard time symapthizing with them.
Then there's Anders. By the Maker, Anders. WTF have you done?

[MTS]

Yeah, I sided with the mages and by the end I was very much regretting that decision. Even the 'good' ones turned insane eventually. As for Anders? Hoo boy, that was unforgivable no matter how you look at it.

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Orsino being the 'O' contact for that blood mage Quentin was way out of left field though, definitely didn't expect that one. Was hoping he'd go out in a futile blaze of glory in the end, but sadly that didn't happen.

The ending was an infuriating cliffhanger, but looks like we'll be seeing one hell of a showdown in DA3.

[Garak]

I had to pick up my jaw from the basement at what Anders did. I think you could hear the Warden facepalm even on the other side of the world.

Btw which ending do you think Bioware considers to be the cannon one - siding with the mages or the templars? Just curios as to what people think. I always considered Morrigan's ritual and Alistair as king to be the canon DA:O ending and that does seem to be the default option if you don't import a save.

[Gothos]

It's hard to tell what would be canon. Branding Hawke the Champion, and not the Viscount, of Kirkwall by the Seeker implies that he sided with the mages. But I don't think any 'canon' exists, really. If there's a scenario I'd WANT to be canon, it would be this: (starting with Origins)
DA:O Spoilers below:

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Eamon's boy survives
Bhelen is king in Orzammar
Werewolf curse lifted
Right of Annulment invoked in the Fereldan Circle
Sacred Urn not defiled
Anvil of the Void destroyed
Shale found
Allistair and Anora married, Loghain dead (I'm hoping Eamon's son be Anora's heir as she's barren)
Morrigan's Ritual performed
Vigil's Keep saved
Amaranthine saved
The Architect lives
The Harvester in Amgarrak Thaig killed
The Warden (a male human noble warrior romancing Morrigan) follows Morrigan through the portal

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Hawke is male warrior
Bethany joins the Grey Wardens
Hawke sides with Mages
Kills Anders
Isabela comes back with the relic
Merrill's clan survives
Fenris spares his sister
Varric spares his brother and takes a shard of the idol
The Arishok dies in a duel with Hawke

can't think of much more tbh.

This post has been edited by Gothos: 16 March 2011 - 03:32 PM

[Raymond Luxury Yacht]

Slow Ben, on 15 March 2011 - 01:38 PM, said:

They dont show the damage numbers on the 360 like they did in Origins.

Disappointing.

Not positive, buit I think you can toggle that on in the option menu.

[MTS]

Yeah you can.

Playing through as a female sarcastic mage now. I love this option, I'm such a dick to people lol.

[Gothos]

Heh, Isabela's chats with Bethany, Merrill and Sebastian are simply priceless I must say

Also, 2h warrior is fucking insane against most stuff. Against the Arishok, however, I had to tune down to Casual to beat him in a duel
Also: Templar spec rocks, especially the AoE (doing like 500 to demons now) and 50% magic resistance passive. I coupled it with Reaver with frenzy and the haste passive at the end.
Good stuff. I'm not really much enthralled with Berserker.

[Tapper]

Gothos, on 18 March 2011 - 11:29 AM, said:

Heh, Isabela's chats with Bethany, Merrill and Sebastian are simply priceless I must say

Also, 2h warrior is fucking insane against most stuff. Against the Arishok, however, I had to tune down to Casual to beat him in a duel
Also: Templar spec rocks, especially the AoE (doing like 500 to demons now) and 50% magic resistance passive. I coupled it with Reaver with frenzy and the haste passive at the end.
Good stuff. I'm not really much enthralled with Berserker.

I love the incessant bickering between Isabela and Aveline... at one point after Aveline marries Dorric they are having an absolutely awesome chat of the dangers of Isabela being around while Aveline's raising her kids.

[Gothos]

Try Isabela recommending a certain book about Andraste and Hessarian's "spear" to Bethany ;]

[MTS]

Isabela and Varric have some hilarious dialogues, and I love Varric ripping on Carver. Isabela and Varric are easily the two best characters, and they're both awesome in combat too, provided you pump Isabela with some willpower so she can actually last through a decent fight without guzzling stamina draughts.

Did anyone find playing a mage boring? I absolutely adored playing my Archer on Hard, even the Arishok fight solo wasn't very difficult, just time consuming and involving lots of running away when my decoy ability and stealth skills were cooling down. With the awesome longbow you get pretty much right at the start of Act 3, I was pulling off 500 hp with a normal hit, over 1k with criticals (and critical chance was around 85%), not to mention the way-overpowered Assassinate skill (add in Petrify and Death Hex and the damage is unbelievable).

But with mage I just ended up spamming a lot of the same spells, and didn't really pack that much of a wallop. I was a Primal/Force mage with a little bit of Entropy (for Horror and the Hexes), so I could at least halt or immobilise every enemy in its tracks at a whim (even the Rock Wraith), but it was still rather boring. Sure, with my Archer it was a lot of auto-attacking, but at least I was still pretty powerful even without my abilities. Hell, you could ignore the Archer skills completely and still be pretty decent. Is there a funner combination to try? Haven't done a Blood Mage yet, that might be interesting. I'd be able to wear warrior armor too I think, sort of like an Arcane Warrior without a sword.

I'm starting to get a little bored with this though, since I've played through it once with an Archer and 2/3rds of the way with a mage, but might give 2handed warrior a whirl. Looks ability-heavy like the mage, since your regular attack is pretty laughable, even though it can hit multiples. Or maybe I'm not seeing the potential (more likely).

Oh, was anyone disappointed with the enemy mages in this game? They were so infrequent, and then most of the time they just turned into boring abominations. Granted, they could tear shit up if you left them alone, but they generally don't last long enough to be any real threat. Kind of like archers as well.

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Did anyone lose their mother to the lady-killer? Was very shocked when that happened, as I wondered what the effect would be if I let him go the first time. Big mistake. That was one of the strengths of this game, you felt like some of your actions had massive consequences. I emphasise the 'some' because the main story ended up pretty much the same no matter how you played it, so it had a heavy sense of inevitability when going through a second time, which hurt its replayability in my mind. Playing through again for what are essentially surface differences was very disappointing.

[Trull's son]

Hmm, I'm thinking of giving this game a shot, as it seems pretty awesome from what I've heard (even though it doesn't seem to live up to expectations). My question would be: should I play the first DA before playing this one. I've played through the beginning of the first one several times, but never managed to get to far along (I didn't own the game itself). Can I enjoy the second one to the fullest without getting the first?

[Primateus]

How did you get Bethany to join the Wardens? Did you leave her in the city while you went into the deep roads?

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Hmm, I'm thinking of giving this game a shot, as it seems pretty awesome from what I've heard (even though it doesn't seem to live up to expectations). My question would be: should I play the first DA before playing this one. I've played through the beginning of the first one several times, but never managed to get to far along (I didn't own the game itself). Can I enjoy the second one to the fullest without getting the first?

Until now, (I'm past the first act / year in the city) I would say you can, although at some points, it will be a bit more fun if you played it through the first one. Because DA2 is in another country, about an other main character, it might be okay. On the other hand: I'm not sure if later in the game or in a eventual third part, you will be missing too much.

[MTS]

Trull, on 18 March 2011 - 03:48 PM, said:

Hmm, I'm thinking of giving this game a shot, as it seems pretty awesome from what I've heard (even though it doesn't seem to live up to expectations). My question would be: should I play the first DA before playing this one. I've played through the beginning of the first one several times, but never managed to get to far along (I didn't own the game itself). Can I enjoy the second one to the fullest without getting the first?

I'd say you can definitely enjoy it without playing the first. You might be a little confused about the first game's impact on the story (arguably not much), and miss out on all the references to events in the first game, but other than that, it's pretty much its own story. I think it's definitely better to have played the first, though.

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I love that if Alistair is not put on the throne you find him drinking in the Hanged Man saying 'it's Morrigan's fault somehow, I just know it.' :

Primateus, on 18 March 2011 - 10:30 PM, said:

How did you get Bethany to join the Wardens? Did you leave her in the city while you went into the deep roads?

Spoilering just in case:

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If you leave her in the city she joins the Circle. You have to take both Anders and Bethany/Carver into the Deep Roads for them to join the Wardens.

[RodeoRanch]

Finished this one over the weekend. I enjoyed it but not nearly as much as Origins. It felt more like a companion/sister game than a full blown sequel to DAO. Dragon Age: The Champion or something along that line would have been a better title than Dragon Age 2.