Sorrit, on 19 August 2010 - 02:28 PM, said:
Galain, on 19 August 2010 - 01:58 PM, said:
Gah, I had a whole post typed up about how we need to lynch the person who is going to give us the most info, but my phone went and ate it
I understand that to everyone else this will probably be me, although I can say now my CF isn't going to prove or disprove anything, since it hasn't helped me make any sense of what is going on.
I've said before, I really don't think that scum would be voting on opposite sides of a train on day one. If scum was defending me then I agree with kesso about who it would be. If scum was pushing my case then I'm not sure.
I would think scum would be pushing your lynch, would have been rather easy with HP, Atrahal and kessoh all gunning for me and in turn making you look bad...too easy to pass up.
But Ive been thinking for a while now that maybe i got such heat for that second vote because HP is actually the killer.
Think about it. Was what i did REALLY that bad?....no not really there are lots of posts that could be considered symp clues to their masters.
But why go so heavy handed for me me?...atrahal made a few rather large posts and seemed really convinced about them before i even started responding and getting into pissing matches.
I would think that a symp (probably atrahal) would lay it on so thick because he was trying to perhaps signal his master HP?
HP has played super slick so far and fits the mould perfectly for a killer. He would push the case on me and twist my meanings but not get overly aggressive and then disappear while the others like atrahal and kessoh would take over the pissing match with myself.
Of course i have been thinking this for a while now but i mean there really isnt much of a case to make on HP other than his smooth and what i perceive as a killer style of play.
I could easily see kessoh being his partner and atrahal being a symp who purposefully made a big deal out of what i did to signal his boss.
Regardless of all of that, HP is really the one player thats style and tone of posts smacks of a killer scum.
He even uhmm'd and aaah'd about voting you wich looked a little fake to me.
He was always going to vote for you and side with his team mates but didnt want to be too quick about it....thats what it looked like to me anyways.
I wanted some more from him today before i brought all this up....but im leaving soon and i thought it should bring it up for discussion before i go.
well thats my favorite theory so far but its very hard to get anyone to believe anything i say being the resident symp suspect. and all....meh
edit - added galains quote because of xpost
So, what you're saying, is that what you did wasn't all that bad, so therefore I must be scum for picking it up and talking about it - on day one, no less - and because my playstyle is so whisper-smooth I therefore absolutely cannot be innocent because innos are really crap at playing clean? C'mon, dude, you're practically playing an OMGUS card here, albeit a day late, happily now that you're off the chopping block.
As for voting Galain, perhaps the reason I didn't instantly go there is because I wanted to, as I had voted, lynch you instead of Galain, and then switched votes just before I went to bed so that we could get a lynch, which CERTAIN OTHER PEOPLE interfered with?
What I find hilarious about all this, in a dry sarcasm kind of sense, is how you and Galain have now managed to shrug off most of the presure. Does no one else look at Galain's lynch and go 'It was derailed, so we didn't get a lynch'? It was blatantly blocked by one person in particular, but now you're doing a fucking good job of diverting people for someone who 'has trouble getting anyone to believe him', to paraphrase you.
Olar Ethil, on 19 August 2010 - 04:00 PM, said:
Caught up.
I also don't think Galain is scum... but voted him anyway. At this point, I think we need to take the conversation in another direction. Let's get away from Sorrit shitting up the thread arguing the same thing over and over. It's making him look very sympish, even though I believe it's not the case. Sorrit tried a gambit, it didn't work and away we go. we've fixated and we need to get away from that. Either vote Galain or don't, but let's take a look around at others.
I do believe the Sorrit idea that HP, symped by Atrahal, is the best most convincing thing so far. He has played a smooth game and does fit the killer playstyle. I also still believe D'riss looks scummy as well still. But since he came on thread all blustery and indignant, people have turned in another direction. That's fine. We can get back to catching him later. I am going to go back and take a look at the early days and see if I can't find some interaction early in the game. but for now:
vote Hood's Path
I'm sure he'll come on all upset and say "What am I supposed to defend against" but w/e.
We've fixated, yes. And why is that? Oh yeah, because we failed to fucking lynch yesterday, EXACTLY how everyone, myself included, said it would go down. And you picked my response perfectly, bro: what the fuck AM I supposed to defend against here? I play well? Sucks to be me, don't it? *facepalm*
Olar Ethil, on 19 August 2010 - 04:45 PM, said:
Then Filler...
Hood, on 18 August 2010 - 02:25 AM, said:
Galain, on 17 August 2010 - 10:23 AM, said:
I can has post? Don't worry lolcat, I will keep you alive! Also,
vote HP
For voting.
Myabe Olar was symping Galain! OMGOMGOMGOMGOMG.
>.>
more filler
Hood, on 18 August 2010 - 03:30 AM, said:
Don't worry about the missing people until they turn up an hour from modkill, make a post and disappear. Remember - strictly enforced modkill this game.
More filler...
Hood, on 18 August 2010 - 03:48 AM, said:
Nope. We're all 'sperienced to some level or another. Unless Bent counts for not having played in ages.
Defensiveness....
Hood, on 18 August 2010 - 03:50 AM, said:
Silchas Ruin, on 18 August 2010 - 03:47 AM, said:
Galain, on 17 August 2010 - 11:37 AM, said:
Hood, on 17 August 2010 - 10:50 AM, said:
Awww yeah.
Well, you guys keep up the good work. I can apparently fuck and vote, so I'm assuming I can three-way and sleep at the same time. See you all in the morning, bright and early...
But we would you want to? Is our three-way that boring that you are going to sleep through it?
Honestly, I find the above to be the most suspicious thing in the game so far. We talk about sexytime frequently around here but three-way is a pretty big word to throw out in a game where it's not clear from the setup who the bad guys are. If HP were, for example, a symp, it may be a good clue that he knows of 2 scum masters. The Galain response could be signalling, but it would indicate that if he's the master, he has foolishly given himself away for no reason.
So if HP is scummy, I would be very stunned if Galain were, as well.
Do you have a hard-on for me or something, Silchas? Seriously, what the fuck else do I call sleeping + voting + fucking?
filler
Hood, on 18 August 2010 - 03:57 AM, said:
You're allowed opinions, of course. I'm curious as to where the hell they come from, sometimes, but even so, you seem to have focused a lot of talk around me today, that's all. No need to get uppity, PEON.
And one more wishy washy quote all in succession. (underlined is mine) Phrases like "Honestly" " On the other hand" "But at the same time" 'Alternatively" All scream of Ffence sitting.
Hood, on 18 August 2010 - 08:29 AM, said:
Hrm, action, votes, discussion! Oh the glory of it all.
I honestly think that the case against D'riss is quite worthy, and it's got a bit of momentum now with the time left. But at the same time...laying a trap, Sorrit? That's an interesting play on day one - though I appreciate your position of trying to cover your actions and then people calling you on it later - and something that's highly likely to be either a scum tactic when they get called on something, or a rather pointless inno play, isn't it? I mean, what are you going to bring out: people who jump on a day one train. Wooo, like that's not going to get some bites. Alternatively, you're going to get jumped on for ass-covering and follow-up votes (basically what you were hoping to catch other people on) and then claim you were laying a trap to get out of your train-pushing. Bad play, Sorrit.
Maybe I am clutching at straws here, he does go on to have a rather large post where he bitches out Sorrit and votes him, but thats when everyone else was bitching out sorrit as well, so not much of a leap there.
I am not sold on the idea that Atrahal is his symp... it very well could be Galain. With Galain's "Joke vote" towards HP 5-6 posts in, coupled with Galain's constant references to his Inno CF ( JA did this all the time as a symp)
I am happy with my vote on HP
Actually, a couple of those filler posts were quite useful. Like pointing out that hunting down low-posters early day one was pointless with a hard modkill timer, when we could just go after them if they conveniently slid back into play before time was up.
As for wishy-washy, I actually called another player's play BAD. Other than that, how the fuck else am I supposed to convey I have multiple options I'm open to?
I mean, really, what you're saying is that I haven't made any posts where I really throw myself out there, and yet that same case can apply to half a dozen others, who also don't have my posts against Sorrit to their name. So I honestly don't see what the case is here.
That all being said, I want to get rid of this Galain nonsense. By which I mean I don't want to give him a free pass for the rest of the game because one or two people failed to hop on his train to get us the lynch.
Vote Galain
Also, I love Silchas' last post...my vote is the most suspect? Wtf?
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