Caught up, I know we don't have a ton of time, here's what I saw...
Best case so far, I think, is by Galain. The later D'riss explanation is just as easily ignored as my own 'excuse' for not being around. I know mine is true, maybe D'riss's is too. Doesn't make him not scum, though.
Galain, on 18 August 2010 - 04:23 AM, said:
D, on 17 August 2010 - 05:41 PM, said:
I has arrived!
And holy shit, people are serious (or faking seriousnes on a day 1) , did everyone eat from the magic shroom?
I'm not sure what to make of Atrahal. His reasoning sounds alright, after all its better to go after the scum than the symp.
Yet seems willing to grab the game from the horns from day 1 - wifom aside, dangerous play either if inno or scum non the less.
Silchas also trying to maintain his 'cool' , Anomandaris voting for him for being a 'symp' but doesn't tell us who he is symping for though.
Anyone else missing on thread, or basically most of us are here?
vote Galain
for being the most sound case so far.
Not to be biased because this post contains a vote against me, but this is really scummy. D'riss comes in and says something snarky about us all being so serious. Then states atrahal is being pushy saying this could mean that he is scum or it could mean he is inno. Way to state the obvious without adding anything definitive thought wise.
Then with tons of time left he throws down an easy I agree vote. Screw discussion, let's just go along with the first thing that looks good. It's not like he isn't going to be around, since he posts again later.
@SR, whose vote did I follow? If you're going to drop a bunch of names for doing something suspicious, at least get them right.
@PS, I believe my vote is currently on Sorrit.
Kesso overreacts here... talk about getting pissy for no reason.
Kessobahn, on 18 August 2010 - 09:26 AM, said:
Sorrit, on 18 August 2010 - 08:57 AM, said:
Hood, on 18 August 2010 - 08:29 AM, said:
Hrm, action, votes, discussion! Oh the glory of it all.
I honestly think that the case against D'riss is quite worthy, and it's got a bit of momentum now with the time left. But at the same time...laying a trap, Sorrit? That's an interesting play on day one - though I appreciate your position of trying to cover your actions and then people calling you on it later - and something that's highly likely to be either a scum tactic when they get called on something, or a rather pointless inno play, isn't it? I mean, what are you going to bring out: people who jump on a day one train. Wooo, like that's not going to get some bites. Alternatively, you're going to get jumped on for ass-covering and follow-up votes (basically what you were hoping to catch other people on) and then claim you were laying a trap to get out of your train-pushing. Bad play, Sorrit.
Yes HP, i purposefully put a second vote on someone to elicit some sort of thread reaction so i could get a better read on players. I even hinted as much in that very post.
Laying a trap?....no not really. More like laying the foundations to get some sort of info. I was not setting out to TRAP, i was setting out to see how people reacted.
I didnt expect such a huge reaction...but yea.
The thread was dead. I wanted to make something happen and see who would actually think things through and who would jump at the opportunity.
"Bad play"?... for you maybe it is but for myself...no...i get a feel for the players.
You on the other hand are standing on the outside with no reference so cant judge my play...sorry.
Its not fool proof by any means, but it DID get the thread going and there WAS people who jumped at the opportunity and there was others that were cautious.
Its very revealing...well, to me its revealing at least. Its up to you weather you believe me or not.
I could just as easily done sweet fuckall and watched everyone settle for a random lynch.
But im trying, as always to be pro active.
I actually came out today just to explaining my actions. Not to defend myslef.
If you think i was signaling somehow then vote me or whoever i was supposed to be signaling im not going to argue the point as its WIFOM.
Was a second vote on someone THAT bad?....no not in my opinion.
But i feel that Atrahals slight over reaction to said post is a good place for me to start looking.
I dislike people explaining things so much with out a real pressure, sorrit. Its kinda stinks of an egomanical sociopath needing attention or recognition for what they feel is a moment of genius. The fact that you are conducting your play with such machavelian style indicates a hidden motive. You say its not a trap, but when atrahal responded you did say "atrahal did bite" which implies it was a trap or at least a hook. It is still day 1, and over explanation this early is not something i would expect from an inno. In fact your long post to hp almost reads like gloating, and indicating your own play as wifom is also just another tactic you seem intent on employing to muddle the waters.
Cry me a river, Sorrit.
Sorrit, on 18 August 2010 - 09:54 AM, said:
well....as much as i like all the attention, i am inno.
And as an inno would not be doing the game any justice by just sitting back and doing nothing.
Im trying my damnedest to get the game going but now i think that i am maybe becoming more of a distraction.
Atrahal is here and im sure we are going to see soem bricks being shat shortly.
You guys really do make such big issues out of non issues lately dont you...sheesh
If I were scum, I'd definitely be happy to be so low on the radar.
Sorrit, on 18 August 2010 - 11:28 AM, said:
Atrahal, on 18 August 2010 - 11:15 AM, said:
You seem to be in support of trying to get a reaction, making things happen yourself, taking people out of their comfort zone etc. But then, you seem to think it scummy that I am pushing strongly, the most common way of doing exactly what you are suppoorting.
Inno's dont (or rather they shouldnt) push SO strongly on something SO week...thats really it ...isnt it? Thats what all of this boils down to.
Once you go the full hog you got to have something more substantial than that.
Scum will go for most things full hog, more so than inno's simply because all they have are innocent players slip ups to work with.
Inno's have the benefit of having lying scum to look for, they have better clues to look out for, yet the scum have literally nothing to look for yet they have to pretend to look, so they have to make things up.
They have tp take little innocent things and make it look worse.
In my opinion, you could have been doing exactly that. And successfully so.
Now note what i said before you explode and retort yet again.....i said you COULD have been doing that.
Its really just a place to start looking. Be it wrong or right...people ARE talking and there is info on the thread.
Anyways....who are the low posters.
I think someone like silchas....if scum, is sitting pretty right now.
Yes yes...i said i needed to work, but the copy writer is super slow today....meh...lemme see if he is done yet.
edit - punctuation and crappy fast typing typos