[Kessobahn]

 Sorrit, on 23 August 2010 - 09:24 AM, said:

Ok...

If atrahal is scum. Then what mould does he fit?
Symp i reckon...he has pushed things around here and there. Been quite vocal, but i dont feel he is scum right now.
He had no reason to come out today and all of the sudden make sense about galain and silchas.

Who would he be symping anyways?... myself and galain?
Wow...well that would be one terrible symp... highly unlikely.
the only way i can see atrahal being scum is if he was galains killer partner and they came up with a plan to gun for one another from the get go.
I just dont see that being the case here...that does happen every now and again witha ballsy pair of killers but im not sure it would have been like it was and i dont think that happened here.

Kessoh could easily fall under a symp or killer category,
Bends allot of logic to suit his own needs, inno's do that too but not so frequently.
Also fails to see peoples points and interprets them incorrectly. Is that to suit his needs too or is he just stubbornly narrow minded?

HP for me, is playing smooth, not very committed to any given argument.
Looks to me like he doesnt really like to go after kessoh. Does it half heartedly in my opinion.
perfect candidate for a killer. Not a symp. Not loud enough.

Galain...Besides myself...i cant see a single person that is alive who could be his partner.
I think the killers made a bit of a boo boo killing olar as i felt he was the only real option of being galains partner.

So i dont know....i cant see us going for one of the quiet ones as thats a gamble.
Who else is there?

I agree with artrahal's assessment that if galain is a killer silchas must be his symp.
So going for galain would not be the good choice today.
We must go for someone on the silchas/galain trains.

galain - pretty much everyone has voted him (Atrahal, D'riss, Kessobahn, Hood's Path, Anomandaris) and you symped him so poorly day 1 i doubt you are conjoined leaving only emur who hasnt went after galain with a vote.

If hp were a killer i could see driss being his partner. (hp may also think i am his symp judging by this mornings interplay)

Emu and ano are either paired killers or the two laziest players in history. if sorrit is their symp then the victory will go to him.

atrahal - not sure either way.

sorritt - has kittens at every vote. over reacts to everything and jumps about like a spoilt brat if symp, then a symp for who? not me or hp thats for sure.

[Hood's Path]

 Sorrit, on 23 August 2010 - 09:24 AM, said:

Ok...

If atrahal is scum. Then what mould does he fit?
Symp i reckon...he has pushed things around here and there. Been quite vocal, but i dont feel he is scum right now.
He had no reason to come out today and all of the sudden make sense about galain and silchas.

Who would he be symping anyways?... myself and galain?
Wow...well that would be one terrible symp... highly unlikely.
the only way i can see atrahal being scum is if he was galains killer partner and they came up with a plan to gun for one another from the get go.
I just dont see that being the case here...that does happen every now and again witha ballsy pair of killers but im not sure it would have been like it was and i dont think that happened here.

Kessoh could easily fall under a symp or killer category,
Bends allot of logic to suit his own needs, inno's do that too but not so frequently.
Also fails to see peoples points and interprets them incorrectly. Is that to suit his needs too or is he just stubbornly narrow minded?

HP for me, is playing smooth, not very committed to any given argument.
Looks to me like he doesnt really like to go after kessoh. Does it half heartedly in my opinion.
perfect candidate for a killer. Not a symp. Not loud enough.

Galain...Besides myself...i cant see a single person that is alive who could be his partner.
I think the killers made a bit of a boo boo killing olar as i felt he was the only real option of being galains partner.

So i dont know....i cant see us going for one of the quiet ones as thats a gamble.
Who else is there?

I agree with artrahal's assessment that if galain is a killer silchas must be his symp.
So going for galain would not be the good choice today.
We must go for someone on the silchas/galain trains.

See, this is a nice post.

As for the quiet ones, I think Atrahal's logic makes them as viable as anyone else - after all, we're taking a gamble on the Silchas/Galain thing, we're *assuming* Silchas was the symp (so that therefore it's not d-day and Galain is therefore a likely killer, however we can afford to look elsewhere) -> when I phrase it that way, I really see where Kesso got confused, btw - so whether we go after the quiet ones or the ones we have a 'read' on is fairly irrelevant if we can find a reason for it.

As for me not commiting...except for my time spent voting where my talk went (you on Day one, Galain on day two) until I switched to get a lynch in both cases, I've stood up to most of the arguments levelled against my posts. So I don't know what you get that from. I mean, sure, I haven't exactly been super-pushy, but that's hardly not being commited. I pretty much haven't backed down, have I? On the other hand, when I have agreed to a ceasefire with you, it's on points that aren't really going anywhere because they've been done to death and are more a question of stance than of evidence. And what hasn't, this game?
As for only going 'half-heartedly' after kessoh, you make it sound as if I should go after him whole-heartedly when he honestly hasn't done *that* much which is terrible, and there has been other things to talk about when he has. Not to bring that whole argument back up, though. On the same token, you just avoided going after the quiet people, you have hardly been after Galain or Atrahal, you're kinda half-heartedly after Kesso, too, by direct comparison with my play in other places. So that just seems a really weird thing to complain about.
Of course, you're far more vocal and obstinate than me...perhaps you see that as a good thing, getting the thread all mired down in pointless back and forth which you then put a stop to by refusing to argue back?

And an alternative interpretation of your Atrahal: he's also one fucking brilliant symp, rather than a terrible one. So far (apart from Kesso) he's got everyone convinced of his logic regards Galain....which if Galain is a killer makes him pretty fucking awesome, imo. But that's beating a dead horse, right? Right?



Alright, so while we're on this bent of analysis: I put this to you. Obviously you have me and Kesso paired away, but who then is our symp? One of the quiet folk? Or, even take us separately, if we're not paired, who are we paired to and who is our symp?

OH, and you forgot D'riss, btw...he got some votes day two, I think...

EDIT: Cross-postings...

[Kessobahn]

everyone is viable when we are this in the dark. fact is in a 2 person game we are at dday with only 1 lynch under our belts, its a bit depressing in that context.

if we vote night now, and the killer(s) is emur or ano they will be forced to take out a possible lynch. If its one of the shoutys (sorrit, atrahal, galain, hp, driss or me) then the likely targets are emu or ano (no loss). either way has its advantages least of which is the better odds tomorrow. withholding the nk suffers no gain either as we could just indefinitely stall the game if necessary. so they would have to act which would give us more info tomorrow.

we put out our thoughts now. vote night and see who dies.

[Hood's Path]

Except that by posting something like you just did, Kesso, you open this whole new can of WIFOM, which makes the whole exercise kinda pointless. *sigh*

[Sorrit]

 Hood, on 23 August 2010 - 09:39 AM, said:

 Sorrit, on 23 August 2010 - 09:24 AM, said:

Ok...

If atrahal is scum. Then what mould does he fit?
Symp i reckon...he has pushed things around here and there. Been quite vocal, but i dont feel he is scum right now.
He had no reason to come out today and all of the sudden make sense about galain and silchas.

Who would he be symping anyways?... myself and galain?
Wow...well that would be one terrible symp... highly unlikely.
the only way i can see atrahal being scum is if he was galains killer partner and they came up with a plan to gun for one another from the get go.
I just dont see that being the case here...that does happen every now and again witha ballsy pair of killers but im not sure it would have been like it was and i dont think that happened here.

Kessoh could easily fall under a symp or killer category,
Bends allot of logic to suit his own needs, inno's do that too but not so frequently.
Also fails to see peoples points and interprets them incorrectly. Is that to suit his needs too or is he just stubbornly narrow minded?

HP for me, is playing smooth, not very committed to any given argument.
Looks to me like he doesnt really like to go after kessoh. Does it half heartedly in my opinion.
perfect candidate for a killer. Not a symp. Not loud enough.

Galain...Besides myself...i cant see a single person that is alive who could be his partner.
I think the killers made a bit of a boo boo killing olar as i felt he was the only real option of being galains partner.

So i dont know....i cant see us going for one of the quiet ones as thats a gamble.
Who else is there?

I agree with artrahal's assessment that if galain is a killer silchas must be his symp.
So going for galain would not be the good choice today.
We must go for someone on the silchas/galain trains.

See, this is a nice post.

thanks

 Hood, on 23 August 2010 - 09:39 AM, said:

As for the quiet ones, I think Atrahal's logic makes them as viable as anyone else - after all, we're taking a gamble on the Silchas/Galain thing, we're *assuming* Silchas was the symp (so that therefore it's not d-day and Galain is therefore a likely killer, however we can afford to look elsewhere) -> when I phrase it that way, I really see where Kesso got confused, btw - so whether we go after the quiet ones or the ones we have a 'read' on is fairly irrelevant if we can find a reason for it.

Yes the quiet ones fit into galains post...sure....but we know next to nothing about them and will be gambling on voting them in my opinion.
Not to say i think its out of the question....i would just feel more vilified if we actually voted off someone who has an actual interest in the game....meh

 Hood, on 23 August 2010 - 09:39 AM, said:

As for me not commiting...except for my time spent voting where my talk went (you on Day one, Galain on day two) until I switched to get a lynch in both cases, I've stood up to most of the arguments levelled against my posts. So I don't know what you get that from. I mean, sure, I haven't exactly been super-pushy, but that's hardly not being commited. I pretty much haven't backed down, have I? On the other hand, when I have agreed to a ceasefire with you, it's on points that aren't really going anywhere because they've been done to death and are more a question of stance than of evidence. And what hasn't, this game?
As for only going 'half-heartedly' after kessoh, you make it sound as if I should go after him whole-heartedly when he honestly hasn't done *that* much which is terrible, and there has been other things to talk about when he has. Not to bring that whole argument back up, though. On the same token, you just avoided going after the quiet people, you have hardly been after Galain or Atrahal, you're kinda half-heartedly after Kesso, too, by direct comparison with my play in other places. So that just seems a really weird thing to complain about.
Of course, you're far more vocal and obstinate than me...perhaps you see that as a good thing, getting the thread all mired down in pointless back and forth which you then put a stop to by refusing to argue back?

Well ofcourse you are going to say this....its the type of thing an inno would say... aswell as what scum should say in this situation... So its all neither here nor there now is it?

 Hood, on 23 August 2010 - 09:39 AM, said:

And an alternative interpretation of your Atrahal: he's also one fucking brilliant symp, rather than a terrible one. So far (apart from Kesso) he's got everyone convinced of his logic regards Galain....which if Galain is a killer makes him pretty fucking awesome, imo. But that's beating a dead horse, right? Right?

He would be a brilliant symp only if he was not galain and my symp.
If he was ano and ehmurs...well then....well done to him.

I was going to come out today and post pretty much exactly what Atrahal did.
To my surprise...the one guy i found to have a constant loopy view. Actually took the words right out of my mouth....imagine that.
To me he stands now as that crazy jumpy inno that gets spooked to easily. Hence his overreaction to me.

 Hood, on 23 August 2010 - 09:39 AM, said:

Alright, so while we're on this bent of analysis: I put this to you. Obviously you have me and Kesso paired away, but who then is our symp? One of the quiet folk? Or, even take us separately, if we're not paired, who are we paired to and who is our symp?

Could be dead already, could even be galain, and driss is a decent option of either being a symp or another killer in my eyes.

 Hood, on 23 August 2010 - 09:39 AM, said:

OH, and you forgot D'riss, btw...he got some votes day two, I think...

EDIT: Cross-postings...

[Hood's Path]

Yes, it's ironic that so far three of us all thought the same thing, and maybe Galain did too, and then Atrahal was just waiting there (from just before the weekend freeze, lol, iirc). I'm just really frustrated his post was so sympish.

[Sorrit]

 Kessobahn, on 23 August 2010 - 09:54 AM, said:

everyone is viable when we are this in the dark. fact is in a 2 person game we are at dday with only 1 lynch under our belts, its a bit depressing in that context.

if we vote night now, and the killer(s) is emur or ano they will be forced to take out a possible lynch. If its one of the shoutys (sorrit, atrahal, galain, hp, driss or me) then the likely targets are emu or ano (no loss). either way has its advantages least of which is the better odds tomorrow. withholding the nk suffers no gain either as we could just indefinitely stall the game if necessary. so they would have to act which would give us more info tomorrow.

we put out our thoughts now. vote night and see who dies.

hmmm....this i agree with....first time for everything i suppose.
killers will probably have to get rid of one of the quiet guys for us...taking one of them out of the equation would give us less to worry about.
Or they would have to kill one of teh lynchable guys or the guys supporting the lynchable guys giving everyone much more info in return.
Maybe the healer can come good again like on night one?....then it would be even more difficult.

I think it would not be an easy choice for the killers on who to kill tonight.

[Sorrit]

 Hood, on 23 August 2010 - 10:05 AM, said:

Yes, it's ironic that so far three of us all thought the same thing, and maybe Galain did too, and then Atrahal was just waiting there (from just before the weekend freeze, lol, iirc). I'm just really frustrated his post was so sympish.

But all the evidence points to the fact that he cant be galains symp....you are really very paranoid...sometimes you just have to take that leap of faith or you will never get anywhere.

[Kessobahn]

 Hood, on 23 August 2010 - 09:58 AM, said:

Except that by posting something like you just did, Kesso, you open this whole new can of WIFOM, which makes the whole exercise kinda pointless. *sigh*

its too our advantage either way, and you cant get a vote for night without giving reasons.

vote night

Money were me mouth is

[Sorrit]

Im gonna be pissed off if ehmur and ano are the scum....really i will be.

There should be some sort of rule about how much scum must play or something to claim victory

[Kessobahn]

yeah, but its the breaks. a double modkill day 1 really shafted us. and sr not lynchig galain left us with a big headache that carried through. You gotta give out rope to have people make mistakes, and if the killers dont post innos invariably get the flak.

[Sorrit]

still doesn't mean i cant get pissed off!!

[Sorrit]

zero hours nights right?

wonder what happens if we vote for night and the killers havent put in a kill order yet?

[Hood's Path]

 Sorrit, on 23 August 2010 - 10:11 AM, said:

 Hood, on 23 August 2010 - 10:05 AM, said:

Yes, it's ironic that so far three of us all thought the same thing, and maybe Galain did too, and then Atrahal was just waiting there (from just before the weekend freeze, lol, iirc). I'm just really frustrated his post was so sympish.

But all the evidence points to the fact that he cant be galains symp....you are really very paranoid...sometimes you just have to take that leap of faith or you will never get anywhere.

Which is exactly what scum would want me to do...


I jest, I jest. Kinda. XD

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 3. 18 hours left.

8 players are left alive. Anomandaris, Atrahal, D'riss, Emurlahnis, Galain, Hood's Path, Kessobahn, Sorrit

5 votes to lynch, 4 to go to night.

1 Vote Night: Kessobahn

Players not voted: Anomandaris, Atrahal, D'riss, Emurlahnis, Galain, Hood's Path, Sorrit



edit: sorry, saw the remove vote but not the night vote.

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 23 August 2010 - 10:29 AM

[Kessobahn]

now now, dont have me think this is an elaborate sham cause you lay it on too thick.

[Hood's Path]

Apparently Kesso's votes don't count? :S

@Sorrit - well, obviously night would time out and they'd get no kill, right? Otherwise pretty easy to narrow suspect list.

[Kessobahn]

 Sorrit, on 23 August 2010 - 10:21 AM, said:

zero hours nights right?

wonder what happens if we vote for night and the killers havent put in a kill order yet?

they had the whole weekend to be on. just cause there was no timer or posting dont mean shit.

LETS FIND OUT!!!

oh ps i voted for night

[Kessobahn]

 Hood, on 23 August 2010 - 10:22 AM, said:

Apparently Kesso's votes don't count? :S

@Sorrit - well, obviously night would time out and they'd get no kill, right? Otherwise pretty easy to narrow suspect list.

well although that would point the finger at non entities it could also be one of us withholding. Now if we vote night then no kill and do so again really quickly i would maybe believee none on were the killers.

[Sorrit]

 Hood, on 23 August 2010 - 10:22 AM, said:

Apparently Kesso's votes don't count? :S

@Sorrit - well, obviously night would time out and they'd get no kill, right? Otherwise pretty easy to narrow suspect list.

well....if there was no kill...then it could also narrow down the suspect list according to who was online now....but that could also be a setup....meh.