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Mafia 64.1 The Culling of the Memes M&P

#421 User is offline   Hood's Path 

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Posted 23 August 2010 - 08:41 AM

 Sorrit, on 23 August 2010 - 08:32 AM, said:

 Hood, on 23 August 2010 - 08:22 AM, said:

1. That's meta.
2. That's why we go invis.
3. Yeah, I refreshed the thread and responded to your post + kessoh's post after I ate my dinner...uhm...?


Your post was definitely more directed at myself than at kessoh.
Call it what you will though.

Its got nothing to do with the times of the posts essentially.
I can see it in your posts that you are really struggling with trying to not make kessoh look too bad.
But at the same time you see that you need to say something bad because what he is saying is getting flak.

Why are you not all over kessoh like a bad rash when he makes a scummy mistake, you get all up everyone else's grill?...
you say all wishy washy things like, that you agree with atrahal's logic but you seem to somehow now all of the sudden believe that atrahal is galains symp?
Where you even here the first two days? It looks like you are really trying to destroy galains statement and credibility but cant really want put too much into it or you will get noticed.


I find your, and kessoh's play extremely disturbing and I personally think its very likely you two are connected.


Can I just say: UGH.

OK, read my posts. I think Atrahal's sudden play reads rather disturbing and as if he is connected to Galain, and possibly to you (seeing as he also mentions partly ignoring you).

And 'I can see it in your posts that...' is a great argument. Clearly, I am struggling not to make Kessoh look bad. You, however, don't seem to be struggling to hard to make yourself look bad. :S And the times of the posts had EVERYTHING to do with it 20 minutes ago, when you were specifically talking about the timing of my posts.

Why am I not all over Kessoh? He's already got someone calling him on it. It just so happens that THAT person is being just as stupid, and hypocritical. His mistake is not something I can actually make much of a deal over, other than what you'd already done which was in turn something stupid. If you hadn't of made that post, how can you even claim to know what I would have posted in response? Pointing it out as stupid and such is great. Doing the same thing as he did with the same risks, is not.

And you should know damn well I was here the first two days. I was voting for YOU on day one, and contributed to arguments surrounding you. Once again, I've already explained how a good symp wouldn't be necessarily all lovey-dovey with his master, hence it doesn't really make a point, does it? He was going after you? All the more effective his turnaround now. ARGH.

So, I think you're just being obstinate at this point. But then, I've seen how ridiculously stubborn you can be, so...

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Posted 23 August 2010 - 08:42 AM

 Galain, on 23 August 2010 - 08:34 AM, said:

 Hood, on 23 August 2010 - 08:24 AM, said:

 Galain, on 23 August 2010 - 08:21 AM, said:

 Hood, on 23 August 2010 - 08:03 AM, said:

 Galain, on 23 August 2010 - 07:57 AM, said:

 Hood, on 23 August 2010 - 07:18 AM, said:

I think you've survived two days of attempted lynchings, Galain.

Besides, I specifically stated I don't disagree with his logic, just that his post is absolutely screaming symp to me, which is unfortunate given its contents.


I've survived one really weak day one case, and been the subject of much discussion thereafter.

I said before that atrahal only looks like my symp if you ignore the context of pretty much everything else that has happened so far this game. Why are you so eager to keep pressure on me, especially if you agree with atrahal's logic?


We spent much time rubishing cases because a symp would be stupid to do this/that so early. On the other hand, when the possibility that a symp has actually done a good job of derailing trains and playing smooth, it means it's unlikely also?
I'm eager to keep options open and not rule you out on one other player's say-so. I agreed with his logic, THEN he posted that ridiculous post. So while the former point makes me inclined to agree with him (and hey, look! I didn't vote for you!) the latter makes me go 'oh fucking hell, that just makes me doubt myself', hence me pointing such out on thread.


What 'THEN'? There is only one post of atrahal's under discussion here. No-one has said that I should be given a free pass for the rest of the game, or that it is unlikely SR was my symp if I was guilty. Atrahal laid out some logic, the product of which is that today, and only today I am a bad choice. You then come along and say you agree with the logic, but not the conclusion drawn from said logic?


If you read my posts: I was thinking along the lines of Atrahal's logic. Then I read his post (that's the 'THEN' btw, perhaps you are not privvy to my substitution of 'posted' for 'I read') and that made me think twice about the logic because of how terrible that post reads.


Aah, I didn't get that you had come to the same conclusion as him before you read his post but were made suspicious by the manner in which other was presented. Fine then, I can understand where go are coming from.


Thank you, glad that's cleared up. :thumbup:

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Posted 23 August 2010 - 08:44 AM

 Kessobahn, on 23 August 2010 - 08:28 AM, said:

 Sorrit, on 23 August 2010 - 07:56 AM, said:

 Kessobahn, on 23 August 2010 - 07:30 AM, said:

i fail to see this kind of logic. Basing a possible d-day scenario on hoping we hit a symp is frankly suicidal. Posting that you think a player is scum but deciding we should go for a random instead is just such an odd leap in logic it just has to be crap.

vote atrahal

You dont want to lynch galain because he may be scum, you could be a symp for galain or someone else. hell you could be the killer and know galain is inno and are making your play. either way that post was bonkers.




Vote Kessoh

you know its D-Day potentially right?
your not even hesitating with dropping a vote? 2 wrong votes and the scum pile on!!

For the FIRST time this game i find Atrahals logic sound. AND THEN you decide its not good play?


Being dday was kinda the point mate. We have a player saying galain is scum and then deciding we should vote someone at random because they believe that sr was a symp. Why hesitate to drop a vote? You need five to get a lynch and i doubt i would have a bunch of people jump on straight away. I am long since beyond agreeing on anything with you.

As a valid second stretegy we could go to night. We lose one player then face a situation with possibly 3 of seven being guilty instead of 3 of eight.


No, the point is that it is only D-day if I am innocent. If I am scum the odds are overwhelming that SR was my symp. If you don't agree with that statement, please explain who you think is linked to me?

Every other person so far has agreed with atrahal's assessment, even if some are unhappy with how it was presented. Do you think we are all scum to agree with his logic?

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Posted 23 August 2010 - 08:52 AM

 Hood, on 23 August 2010 - 08:41 AM, said:

 Sorrit, on 23 August 2010 - 08:32 AM, said:

 Hood, on 23 August 2010 - 08:22 AM, said:

1. That's meta.
2. That's why we go invis.
3. Yeah, I refreshed the thread and responded to your post + kessoh's post after I ate my dinner...uhm...?


Your post was definitely more directed at myself than at kessoh.
Call it what you will though.

Its got nothing to do with the times of the posts essentially.
I can see it in your posts that you are really struggling with trying to not make kessoh look too bad.
But at the same time you see that you need to say something bad because what he is saying is getting flak.

Why are you not all over kessoh like a bad rash when he makes a scummy mistake, you get all up everyone else's grill?...
you say all wishy washy things like, that you agree with atrahal's logic but you seem to somehow now all of the sudden believe that atrahal is galains symp?
Where you even here the first two days? It looks like you are really trying to destroy galains statement and credibility but cant really want put too much into it or you will get noticed.


I find your, and kessoh's play extremely disturbing and I personally think its very likely you two are connected.


Can I just say: UGH.

OK, read my posts. I think Atrahal's sudden play reads rather disturbing and as if he is connected to Galain, and possibly to you (seeing as he also mentions partly ignoring you).




You must be out of your mind
I little common sense will tell you this is an extremely unlikely scenario!!

 Hood, on 23 August 2010 - 08:41 AM, said:

And 'I can see it in your posts that...' is a great argument. Clearly, I am struggling not to make Kessoh look bad. You, however, don't seem to be struggling to hard to make yourself look bad. :S And the times of the posts had EVERYTHING to do with it 20 minutes ago, when you were specifically talking about the timing of my posts.

Why am I not all over Kessoh? He's already got someone calling him on it. It just so happens that THAT person is being just as stupid, and hypocritical. His mistake is not something I can actually make much of a deal over, other than what you'd already done which was in turn something stupid. If you hadn't of made that post, how can you even claim to know what I would have posted in response? Pointing it out as stupid and such is great. Doing the same thing as he did with the same risks, is not.

And you should know damn well I was here the first two days. I was voting for YOU on day one, and contributed to arguments surrounding you. Once again, I've already explained how a good symp wouldn't be necessarily all lovey-dovey with his master, hence it doesn't really make a point, does it? He was going after you? All the more effective his turnaround now. ARGH.

So, I think you're just being obstinate at this point. But then, I've seen how ridiculously stubborn you can be, so...


I am not going to be roped into a pojntles argument over this.
You guys are purposefully choosing the least likely scenario and blowing it out and trying to give it legs so that we forget the most likely scenario.
Much like kessoh and his theory on silchas yesterday.

Hopefully the others have common sense to see through your nonsense

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Posted 23 August 2010 - 08:57 AM

OR, I'm just keeping an open mind. Look, I can understand why you don't want to consider that - it implies you are potentially scum. But for me, who has no idea of your innocence, that post reads bad. If you can't see how THAT is possible, you're just wasting all your 'common sense'.

Loving the 'nonsense', 'common sense' arguments, btw...

But if you don't want to get into an argument over it, fine. Just don't expect me to eat everything out of your hand as if you're handing the game to me on a platter, 's all. Open mind.

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Posted 23 August 2010 - 08:59 AM

 Hood, on 23 August 2010 - 08:41 AM, said:

 Sorrit, on 23 August 2010 - 08:32 AM, said:

 Hood, on 23 August 2010 - 08:22 AM, said:

1. That's meta.
2. That's why we go invis.
3. Yeah, I refreshed the thread and responded to your post + kessoh's post after I ate my dinner...uhm...?


Your post was definitely more directed at myself than at kessoh.
Call it what you will though.

Its got nothing to do with the times of the posts essentially.
I can see it in your posts that you are really struggling with trying to not make kessoh look too bad.
But at the same time you see that you need to say something bad because what he is saying is getting flak.

Why are you not all over kessoh like a bad rash when he makes a scummy mistake, you get all up everyone else's grill?...
you say all wishy washy things like, that you agree with atrahal's logic but you seem to somehow now all of the sudden believe that atrahal is galains symp?
Where you even here the first two days? It looks like you are really trying to destroy galains statement and credibility but cant really want put too much into it or you will get noticed.


I find your, and kessoh's play extremely disturbing and I personally think its very likely you two are connected.


Can I just say: UGH.

OK, read my posts. I think Atrahal's sudden play reads rather disturbing and as if he is connected to Galain, and possibly to you (seeing as he also mentions partly ignoring you).

And 'I can see it in your posts that...' is a great argument. Clearly, I am struggling not to make Kessoh look bad. You, however, don't seem to be struggling to hard to make yourself look bad. :S And the times of the posts had EVERYTHING to do with it 20 minutes ago, when you were specifically talking about the timing of my posts.

Why am I not all over Kessoh? He's already got someone calling him on it. It just so happens that THAT person is being just as stupid, and hypocritical. His mistake is not something I can actually make much of a deal over, other than what you'd already done which was in turn something stupid. If you hadn't of made that post, how can you even claim to know what I would have posted in response? Pointing it out as stupid and such is great. Doing the same thing as he did with the same risks, is not.

And you should know damn well I was here the first two days. I was voting for YOU on day one, and contributed to arguments surrounding you. Once again, I've already explained how a good symp wouldn't be necessarily all lovey-dovey with his master, hence it doesn't really make a point, does it? He was going after you? All the more effective his turnaround now. ARGH.

So, I think you're just being obstinate at this point. But then, I've seen how ridiculously stubborn you can be, so...


To nitpick, he was going after me, based on Sorrit's actions. And as much as you want to discuss what scum would or would not do, I cannot believe that scum would take a clue that a bunch of people hadn't commented on and keep pushing it all the way to L-1 on a lynch that failed because of one obstinate player and three people that just weren't around. Distancing is one thing, deliberately sabotaging your team on day one is something completely different.

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Posted 23 August 2010 - 08:59 AM

If i was convinced you were scum galain i would be voting for you. I can pretty much be certain atrahal isnt linked to you by earlier play. Tell me, is there any other time better than the start of day to place a vote? It isnt in danger of becoming a train, but is a nice strong reaction to what i felt was a dangerous way of playing. It also provoked a lot of activity, much of it very different.

Sorritt reacted much as expected. you were middle of the road, while hp was...indifferent?

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Posted 23 August 2010 - 09:01 AM

 Galain, on 23 August 2010 - 08:59 AM, said:

 Hood, on 23 August 2010 - 08:41 AM, said:

 Sorrit, on 23 August 2010 - 08:32 AM, said:

 Hood, on 23 August 2010 - 08:22 AM, said:

1. That's meta.
2. That's why we go invis.
3. Yeah, I refreshed the thread and responded to your post + kessoh's post after I ate my dinner...uhm...?


Your post was definitely more directed at myself than at kessoh.
Call it what you will though.

Its got nothing to do with the times of the posts essentially.
I can see it in your posts that you are really struggling with trying to not make kessoh look too bad.
But at the same time you see that you need to say something bad because what he is saying is getting flak.

Why are you not all over kessoh like a bad rash when he makes a scummy mistake, you get all up everyone else's grill?...
you say all wishy washy things like, that you agree with atrahal's logic but you seem to somehow now all of the sudden believe that atrahal is galains symp?
Where you even here the first two days? It looks like you are really trying to destroy galains statement and credibility but cant really want put too much into it or you will get noticed.


I find your, and kessoh's play extremely disturbing and I personally think its very likely you two are connected.


Can I just say: UGH.

OK, read my posts. I think Atrahal's sudden play reads rather disturbing and as if he is connected to Galain, and possibly to you (seeing as he also mentions partly ignoring you).

And 'I can see it in your posts that...' is a great argument. Clearly, I am struggling not to make Kessoh look bad. You, however, don't seem to be struggling to hard to make yourself look bad. :S And the times of the posts had EVERYTHING to do with it 20 minutes ago, when you were specifically talking about the timing of my posts.

Why am I not all over Kessoh? He's already got someone calling him on it. It just so happens that THAT person is being just as stupid, and hypocritical. His mistake is not something I can actually make much of a deal over, other than what you'd already done which was in turn something stupid. If you hadn't of made that post, how can you even claim to know what I would have posted in response? Pointing it out as stupid and such is great. Doing the same thing as he did with the same risks, is not.

And you should know damn well I was here the first two days. I was voting for YOU on day one, and contributed to arguments surrounding you. Once again, I've already explained how a good symp wouldn't be necessarily all lovey-dovey with his master, hence it doesn't really make a point, does it? He was going after you? All the more effective his turnaround now. ARGH.

So, I think you're just being obstinate at this point. But then, I've seen how ridiculously stubborn you can be, so...


To nitpick, he was going after me, based on Sorrit's actions. And as much as you want to discuss what scum would or would not do, I cannot believe that scum would take a clue that a bunch of people hadn't commented on and keep pushing it all the way to L-1 on a lynch that failed because of one obstinate player and three people that just weren't around. Distancing is one thing, deliberately sabotaging your team on day one is something completely different.


And I cant believe that any player would really push this idea as a serious possibility in order to attempt to rubbish a perfectly logical idea.
It smacks of scum...

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Posted 23 August 2010 - 09:09 AM

before you all lose what few marbles you have left lets just look at whats left and decide who we can actually have a read on

Anomandaris, - cant rememebr anything about them
Atrahal, - fishy comment today, pushed lynch against galain day 1.
D'riss, - was subject of some voting, strong symp clue day 1 passed off as rp
Emurlahnis, - another non entity
Galain, - day 1 that never was. has been in spotlight the whole game, yet his play is mostly middle of the road mixed with musings of voting for themselves (which never happened)
Hood's Path, - another player in and out of the spotlight. but many of the suspicions are for playing smoothly.
Kessobahn, - clearly innocent and yet totally disagreeable for shame
Sorrit - day 1 symp of galain on day 1 set the tone for the whole game. plays very reactive and must always jump in with both feet regardless of his claims on day 1 to be laying a trap (which he claims he didnt lay a trap) or implying some form of strategy.

so lets take a look from atrahals point of view and assume sr was the symp for galain, who is his likely partner. Sorritt? hmmm maybe, but that would have been a rather foolish away to start day 1 for a pair of paired killers so i guess sorritt could be the symp, which means sr wasnt the symp. Unless for m&p its one killer 2 symps. That could cover the night 1 lack of kill, but i think a guard would have come forward so its highly unlikely. It is also dday so if someone did a heal and are still alive they could pi the night 1 target (though chances of anyone believing you or your target are low)

i think a look at the voting is in order. one moment

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Posted 23 August 2010 - 09:19 AM

Day 1, 0 hours and 0 minutes remain.


12 players are left alive. Anomandaris, Atrahal, D'riss, Emurlahnis, Galain, Hood's Path, Kessobahn,
Okaros, Olar Ethil, Silchas Ruin, Sorrit, Tulas Shorn


6 votes Galain: Atrahal, D'riss, Kessobahn, Hood's Path, Anomandaris, Olar Ethil
2 votes Olar Ethil: Emurlahnis, Anomandaris
4 votes D'riss: Olar Ethil, Galain, Sorrit, Silchas Ruin


Players not voted: Okaros, Tulas Shorn

Day 1 has finished. No one was lynched.

Night 1

No one died.

Modkills

A poor innocent meme has disappeared from the internet forever. Tulas Shorn (Bent), has been modkilled for inactivity.

A poor innocent meme has disappeared from the internet forever. Okaros (MTS), has been modkilled for inactivity.





Day 2,


10 players are left alive. Anomandaris, Atrahal, D'riss, Emurlahnis, Galain, Hood's Path, Kessobahn, Olar Ethil, Silchas Ruin, Sorrit,

6 votes to lynch, 5 to go to night.

6 votes Silchas Ruin: Kessobahn, D'riss, Emurlahnis, Hood's Path, Atrahal, Galain
3 votes Hood's Path: Olar Ethil, Silchas Ruin, Sorrit
1 vote Galain: Anomandaris

Players not voted:

That's a lynch. Resolution in a moment.

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Posted 23 August 2010 - 09:24 AM

Ok...

If atrahal is scum. Then what mould does he fit?
Symp i reckon...he has pushed things around here and there. Been quite vocal, but i dont feel he is scum right now.
He had no reason to come out today and all of the sudden make sense about galain and silchas.

Who would he be symping anyways?... myself and galain?
Wow...well that would be one terrible symp... highly unlikely.
the only way i can see atrahal being scum is if he was galains killer partner and they came up with a plan to gun for one another from the get go.
I just dont see that being the case here...that does happen every now and again witha ballsy pair of killers but im not sure it would have been like it was and i dont think that happened here.

Kessoh could easily fall under a symp or killer category,
Bends allot of logic to suit his own needs, inno's do that too but not so frequently.
Also fails to see peoples points and interprets them incorrectly. Is that to suit his needs too or is he just stubbornly narrow minded?

HP for me, is playing smooth, not very committed to any given argument.
Looks to me like he doesnt really like to go after kessoh. Does it half heartedly in my opinion.
perfect candidate for a killer. Not a symp. Not loud enough.

Galain...Besides myself...i cant see a single person that is alive who could be his partner.
I think the killers made a bit of a boo boo killing olar as i felt he was the only real option of being galains partner.

So i dont know....i cant see us going for one of the quiet ones as thats a gamble.
Who else is there?

I agree with artrahal's assessment that if galain is a killer silchas must be his symp.
So going for galain would not be the good choice today.
We must go for someone on the silchas/galain trains.

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Posted 23 August 2010 - 09:26 AM

 Kessobahn, on 23 August 2010 - 09:09 AM, said:

before you all lose what few marbles you have left lets just look at whats left and decide who we can actually have a read on

Anomandaris, - cant rememebr anything about them
Atrahal, - fishy comment today, pushed lynch against galain day 1.
D'riss, - was subject of some voting, strong symp clue day 1 passed off as rp
Emurlahnis, - another non entity
Galain, - day 1 that never was. has been in spotlight the whole game, yet his play is mostly middle of the road mixed with musings of voting for themselves (which never happened)
Hood's Path, - another player in and out of the spotlight. but many of the suspicions are for playing smoothly.
Kessobahn, - clearly innocent and yet totally disagreeable for shame
Sorrit - day 1 symp of galain on day 1 set the tone for the whole game. plays very reactive and must always jump in with both feet regardless of his claims on day 1 to be laying a trap (which he claims he didnt lay a trap) or implying some form of strategy.

so lets take a look from atrahals point of view and assume sr was the symp for galain, who is his likely partner. Sorritt? hmmm maybe, but that would have been a rather foolish away to start day 1 for a pair of paired killers so i guess sorritt could be the symp, which means sr wasnt the symp. Unless for m&p its one killer 2 symps. That could cover the night 1 lack of kill, but i think a guard would have come forward so its highly unlikely. It is also dday so if someone did a heal and are still alive they could pi the night 1 target (though chances of anyone believing you or your target are low)

i think a look at the voting is in order. one moment


I completely forgot about D'riss...now there is another shady character
Ano and ehmur are non entities to me and can have their hollow win if they are scum.

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Posted 23 August 2010 - 09:26 AM

 Sorrit, on 23 August 2010 - 09:01 AM, said:

 Galain, on 23 August 2010 - 08:59 AM, said:

 Hood, on 23 August 2010 - 08:41 AM, said:

 Sorrit, on 23 August 2010 - 08:32 AM, said:

 Hood, on 23 August 2010 - 08:22 AM, said:

1. That's meta.
2. That's why we go invis.
3. Yeah, I refreshed the thread and responded to your post + kessoh's post after I ate my dinner...uhm...?


Your post was definitely more directed at myself than at kessoh.
Call it what you will though.

Its got nothing to do with the times of the posts essentially.
I can see it in your posts that you are really struggling with trying to not make kessoh look too bad.
But at the same time you see that you need to say something bad because what he is saying is getting flak.

Why are you not all over kessoh like a bad rash when he makes a scummy mistake, you get all up everyone else's grill?...
you say all wishy washy things like, that you agree with atrahal's logic but you seem to somehow now all of the sudden believe that atrahal is galains symp?
Where you even here the first two days? It looks like you are really trying to destroy galains statement and credibility but cant really want put too much into it or you will get noticed.


I find your, and kessoh's play extremely disturbing and I personally think its very likely you two are connected.


Can I just say: UGH.

OK, read my posts. I think Atrahal's sudden play reads rather disturbing and as if he is connected to Galain, and possibly to you (seeing as he also mentions partly ignoring you).

And 'I can see it in your posts that...' is a great argument. Clearly, I am struggling not to make Kessoh look bad. You, however, don't seem to be struggling to hard to make yourself look bad. :S And the times of the posts had EVERYTHING to do with it 20 minutes ago, when you were specifically talking about the timing of my posts.

Why am I not all over Kessoh? He's already got someone calling him on it. It just so happens that THAT person is being just as stupid, and hypocritical. His mistake is not something I can actually make much of a deal over, other than what you'd already done which was in turn something stupid. If you hadn't of made that post, how can you even claim to know what I would have posted in response? Pointing it out as stupid and such is great. Doing the same thing as he did with the same risks, is not.

And you should know damn well I was here the first two days. I was voting for YOU on day one, and contributed to arguments surrounding you. Once again, I've already explained how a good symp wouldn't be necessarily all lovey-dovey with his master, hence it doesn't really make a point, does it? He was going after you? All the more effective his turnaround now. ARGH.

So, I think you're just being obstinate at this point. But then, I've seen how ridiculously stubborn you can be, so...


To nitpick, he was going after me, based on Sorrit's actions. And as much as you want to discuss what scum would or would not do, I cannot believe that scum would take a clue that a bunch of people hadn't commented on and keep pushing it all the way to L-1 on a lynch that failed because of one obstinate player and three people that just weren't around. Distancing is one thing, deliberately sabotaging your team on day one is something completely different.


And I cant believe that any player would really push this idea as a serious possibility in order to attempt to rubbish a perfectly logical idea.
It smacks of scum...


There is the difference - I don't see atrahal symping me as being perfectly logical.

Seriously, I am just using occam's razor here. Either atrahal embarked on a convoluted and risky ploy that succeeded only because of factors that were completely out of his control, or he is not my symp...

At some point in the game we have to make some assumptions about the people that are still alive, else we will never get anywhere. You can get caught in a paranoia spiral of WIFOM if you want.

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Posted 23 August 2010 - 09:27 AM

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i wonder what conclusions people are going to draw from the voting. Most notable is the way ano and emu are such non entities after day 1, voting on the same player then against one another on day 2. Driss went from four votes on day 1 to none on day 2, while sorritt is the only surviving memebr of the vote hp club. olar voted driss and hp, not becoming wrapped up in the galain case or the late day 1 actions of sr. did driss not vote on day 2?

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Posted 23 August 2010 - 09:29 AM

 Kessobahn, on 23 August 2010 - 09:09 AM, said:

Unless for m&p its one killer 2 symps. That could cover the night 1 lack of kill, but i think a guard would have come forward so its highly unlikely. It is also dday so if someone did a heal and are still alive they could pi the night 1 target (though chances of anyone believing you or your target are low)

i think a look at the voting is in order. one moment


here we go again with making up scenarios to fit your bullshit theories....meh

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Posted 23 August 2010 - 09:30 AM

 Kessobahn, on 23 August 2010 - 09:27 AM, said:

remove vote

i wonder what conclusions people are going to draw from the voting. Most notable is the way ano and emu are such non entities after day 1, voting on the same player then against one another on day 2. Driss went from four votes on day 1 to none on day 2, while sorritt is the only surviving memebr of the vote hp club. olar voted driss and hp, not becoming wrapped up in the galain case or the late day 1 actions of sr. did driss not vote on day 2?


aaaaah

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Posted 23 August 2010 - 09:32 AM

 Sorrit, on 23 August 2010 - 09:29 AM, said:

 Kessobahn, on 23 August 2010 - 09:09 AM, said:

Unless for m&p its one killer 2 symps. That could cover the night 1 lack of kill, but i think a guard would have come forward so its highly unlikely. It is also dday so if someone did a heal and are still alive they could pi the night 1 target (though chances of anyone believing you or your target are low)

i think a look at the voting is in order. one moment


here we go again with making up scenarios to fit your bullshit theories....meh

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bullshit theories? You are an funny young man sir, and you are going to eat your words.

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Posted 23 August 2010 - 09:32 AM

 Galain, on 23 August 2010 - 09:26 AM, said:

 Sorrit, on 23 August 2010 - 09:01 AM, said:

 Galain, on 23 August 2010 - 08:59 AM, said:

 Hood, on 23 August 2010 - 08:41 AM, said:

 Sorrit, on 23 August 2010 - 08:32 AM, said:

 Hood, on 23 August 2010 - 08:22 AM, said:

1. That's meta.
2. That's why we go invis.
3. Yeah, I refreshed the thread and responded to your post + kessoh's post after I ate my dinner...uhm...?


Your post was definitely more directed at myself than at kessoh.
Call it what you will though.

Its got nothing to do with the times of the posts essentially.
I can see it in your posts that you are really struggling with trying to not make kessoh look too bad.
But at the same time you see that you need to say something bad because what he is saying is getting flak.

Why are you not all over kessoh like a bad rash when he makes a scummy mistake, you get all up everyone else's grill?...
you say all wishy washy things like, that you agree with atrahal's logic but you seem to somehow now all of the sudden believe that atrahal is galains symp?
Where you even here the first two days? It looks like you are really trying to destroy galains statement and credibility but cant really want put too much into it or you will get noticed.


I find your, and kessoh's play extremely disturbing and I personally think its very likely you two are connected.


Can I just say: UGH.

OK, read my posts. I think Atrahal's sudden play reads rather disturbing and as if he is connected to Galain, and possibly to you (seeing as he also mentions partly ignoring you).

And 'I can see it in your posts that...' is a great argument. Clearly, I am struggling not to make Kessoh look bad. You, however, don't seem to be struggling to hard to make yourself look bad. :S And the times of the posts had EVERYTHING to do with it 20 minutes ago, when you were specifically talking about the timing of my posts.

Why am I not all over Kessoh? He's already got someone calling him on it. It just so happens that THAT person is being just as stupid, and hypocritical. His mistake is not something I can actually make much of a deal over, other than what you'd already done which was in turn something stupid. If you hadn't of made that post, how can you even claim to know what I would have posted in response? Pointing it out as stupid and such is great. Doing the same thing as he did with the same risks, is not.

And you should know damn well I was here the first two days. I was voting for YOU on day one, and contributed to arguments surrounding you. Once again, I've already explained how a good symp wouldn't be necessarily all lovey-dovey with his master, hence it doesn't really make a point, does it? He was going after you? All the more effective his turnaround now. ARGH.

So, I think you're just being obstinate at this point. But then, I've seen how ridiculously stubborn you can be, so...


To nitpick, he was going after me, based on Sorrit's actions. And as much as you want to discuss what scum would or would not do, I cannot believe that scum would take a clue that a bunch of people hadn't commented on and keep pushing it all the way to L-1 on a lynch that failed because of one obstinate player and three people that just weren't around. Distancing is one thing, deliberately sabotaging your team on day one is something completely different.


And I cant believe that any player would really push this idea as a serious possibility in order to attempt to rubbish a perfectly logical idea.
It smacks of scum...


There is the difference - I don't see atrahal symping me as being perfectly logical.

Seriously, I am just using occam's razor here. Either atrahal embarked on a convoluted and risky ploy that succeeded only because of factors that were completely out of his control, or he is not my symp...

At some point in the game we have to make some assumptions about the people that are still alive, else we will never get anywhere. You can get caught in a paranoia spiral of WIFOM if you want.


erm...yea
we are in agreement here BTW... i was refering to HP and his paranoia about Atrahal all of the sudden being your symp.

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Posted 23 August 2010 - 09:33 AM

 Kessobahn, on 23 August 2010 - 09:32 AM, said:

 Sorrit, on 23 August 2010 - 09:29 AM, said:

 Kessobahn, on 23 August 2010 - 09:09 AM, said:

Unless for m&p its one killer 2 symps. That could cover the night 1 lack of kill, but i think a guard would have come forward so its highly unlikely. It is also dday so if someone did a heal and are still alive they could pi the night 1 target (though chances of anyone believing you or your target are low)

i think a look at the voting is in order. one moment


here we go again with making up scenarios to fit your bullshit theories....meh

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bullshit theories? You are an funny young man sir, and you are going to eat your words.





like you already have about silchas!!??


edit - and how am i going to eat my words when i know for a fact that i am not a symp while you are hypothesizing about me AND silchas being symps...hahaha?

This post has been edited by Sorrit: 23 August 2010 - 09:35 AM


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Posted 23 August 2010 - 09:34 AM

Ok, I think we are starting to argue ourselves in circles. I am going to take a step back and do some work, for a while. Hopefully by the time I am done the americans will have come online and we can get some fresh perspectives in the mix.

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