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#41 User is offline   T'renn 

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Posted 13 June 2010 - 10:11 AM

Dedicated to Burn eh ?
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Posted 13 June 2010 - 10:14 AM

View Postworrywort, on 11 June 2010 - 06:57 PM, said:

I have nothing but positive expectations for this book, but I wanted to coin the term Stonewiener early anyway.


View PostImperial High Mage Tayschrenn, on 11 June 2010 - 07:15 PM, said:

Huhuh, epic.

raises the question WHAT he wields



View PostAptorian, on 11 June 2010 - 09:57 PM, said:

A big scary sword dedicated to Burn.


View PostImperial High Mage Tayschrenn, on 13 June 2010 - 10:11 AM, said:

Dedicated to Burn eh ?


I can't believe I missed that joke.
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Posted 29 June 2010 - 12:54 PM

So ... anyone have a page count on this?
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Posted 14 July 2010 - 02:03 PM

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View Postblackzoid, on 08 June 2010 - 09:40 AM, said:

The Cripplied God/Kallor storyline happened on Jacuruku, not Korel.


Half true. It affected both Korelri and Jacuruku. The Crippled God was pulled down by an Empire on Korelri. They wanted to draw a gods power to defend themselves against the impending invasion by the Kallorian Empire.

The Crippled Gods fall destroyed Korelri.

Kallor destroyed Jacuruku.


Where in the world did you get this from? It was Kallor's circle of mages that pulled down the CG over Jacuruku, which is what destroyed Jacuruku and made it into what is now the Imperial Warren, or well, into the land that Krul, Draconus and Nightchill (or prolly just Krul) shaved the top off of to create what would eventually become the Imperial Warren... I don't remember reading anywhere that the CG's fall destroyed Korelri...

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Posted 14 July 2010 - 02:10 PM

No, no. In the Prologue of MoI K'rul is walking on Korel and thinks on how the Fall ravaged the continent. Then he teleports to Jakurucu and the EG curse Kallor. K'rul decides to create the future Imperial warren to heal the land from the destruction Kallor had brought to his own Empire to spite the EG.

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Posted 14 July 2010 - 03:32 PM

View PostBlend, on 14 July 2010 - 02:03 PM, said:

View PostAptorian, on 08 June 2010 - 11:54 AM, said:

View Postblackzoid, on 08 June 2010 - 09:40 AM, said:

The Cripplied God/Kallor storyline happened on Jacuruku, not Korel.


Half true. It affected both Korelri and Jacuruku. The Crippled God was pulled down by an Empire on Korelri. They wanted to draw a gods power to defend themselves against the impending invasion by the Kallorian Empire.

The Crippled Gods fall destroyed Korelri.

Kallor destroyed Jacuruku.


Where in the world did you get this from? It was Kallor's circle of mages that pulled down the CG over Jacuruku, which is what destroyed Jacuruku and made it into what is now the Imperial Warren, or well, into the land that Krul, Draconus and Nightchill (or prolly just Krul) shaved the top off of to create what would eventually become the Imperial Warren... I don't remember reading anywhere that the CG's fall destroyed Korelri...


I think the name "The Cirkle" and some of the details are revealed in MT when Ruin shows Kettle or Brys, I forget which one, the fall of the CG.
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Posted 14 July 2010 - 04:21 PM

Clarification: It was a set of mages opposing Kallor who were looking for allies/power. They lured the CG out of his world and caused the fall that devastated Korelri. We don't actually know where the Mages were standing at the time, but the CG fell, mostly, on Korelri and nearby.

Kallor, sitting in his Empire over on Jacuruku, realized that the EGs would react to this and pre-emptively nukefired his own continent, the devastated part of which Krul takes into himself to create what becomes the Imperial Warren.


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Posted 14 July 2010 - 04:29 PM

I don't think they came because of the destruction of Korelri. They came because of Kallors legendary cruelty. A tyrant of power is never tolerated for long.
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Posted 14 July 2010 - 07:26 PM

View PostAptorian, on 14 July 2010 - 04:29 PM, said:

I don't think they came because of the destruction of Korelri. They came because of Kallors legendary cruelty. A tyrant of power is never tolerated for long.



Agreed, but inferred that it was because Kallor's tyranny had triggered the Circle's desparate act, that in turn triggered the Fall, that the EGs decided it was time to do something about him.
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Posted 14 July 2010 - 07:37 PM

I suspect that they were coming one way or another, but I guess it may have sped up their resolve/Made them cancel lunch.
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Posted 14 July 2010 - 07:45 PM

They knew that he had enslaved ~8,000,000 mortals (more than any Jaghut Tyrant), but not that he had slaughtered them all (preemptively) before their arrival on the shores of Jacuruku.
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Posted 14 July 2010 - 08:10 PM

View Postblackzoid, on 08 June 2010 - 09:40 AM, said:

No, what I'm guessing is that the ancient crime is the fact that the Riders were driven from the area around Korel in the ancient past (by the forbears of the Koreli) and now their situation will be delt with.
Night of Knives strongly implied that the Riders are not strictly evil beings. Greymane in RoTCG was friendly with them as well.



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Posted 15 July 2010 - 05:16 PM

View PostAbyss, on 14 July 2010 - 07:26 PM, said:

View PostAptorian, on 14 July 2010 - 04:29 PM, said:

I don't think they came because of the destruction of Korelri. They came because of Kallors legendary cruelty. A tyrant of power is never tolerated for long.



Agreed, but inferred that it was because Kallor's tyranny had triggered the Circle's desparate act, that in turn triggered the Fall, that the EGs decided it was time to do something about him.


Isn't the MoI prologue a couple years after the Fall though? If so then them EGs are sloooooooow

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I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 15 July 2010 - 08:23 PM

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