[The Dude]

Peanutbutta, on 12 July 2010 - 03:42 PM, said:

I'm glad we finally have a game going... even if it is an indecipherable Chinese game replete with MULTILYNCHING. I'm totally for speedlynching every mother fucker who doesn't even post within the next fourish hours (or thereabouts).

Ahhh yes, good to see another left coaster... means I should have someone to talk to ( or in PB's case, listen to) so I don't pull my hair out with boredom.


@Grief and Silencer, I leave my browser open at work for 8+ hours at a time... while it may seem like lurking, 90% of the time I am afk. It's impractical for me to log in and out everytime I check the thread.

Gonna go read the revised start-up thread. Back in a bit.

[Grief]

alt146, on 12 July 2010 - 03:45 PM, said:

Yay, the game has started. I should be able to contribute properly in a couple of hours, have some stuff to sort out at the moment.

Only getting the CF at the end of the day makes more than one lynch per day very risky, I think it should be reserved for a D-Day+.5 type situation.

Why?

Personally I reckon that if there are a few people who seem pretty scummy, there's no reason not to lynch several people at once, as long as their scumminess doesn't depend on each other. We quite often see a couple of trains with nearly even votes. The only case where it seems a bad idea is when one of them would be potentially cleared by the others CF.

I don't see how it is risky to lynch more than once daily though. Only lynching once just gives the scum more chance to kill. Even if we're wrong, i'd rather it was us deciding who dies. More information that way.

[Grief]

The Dude, on 12 July 2010 - 03:50 PM, said:

Ahhh yes, good to see another left coaster... means I should have someone to talk to ( or in PB's case, listen to) so I don't pull my hair out with boredom.

I just realised that I may be the only GMT player here, though I don't know about HMQB and Edrigan. That would be a definete first. There's usually quite a few of us.

[alt146]

Grief, on 12 July 2010 - 03:51 PM, said:

alt146, on 12 July 2010 - 03:45 PM, said:

Yay, the game has started. I should be able to contribute properly in a couple of hours, have some stuff to sort out at the moment.

Only getting the CF at the end of the day makes more than one lynch per day very risky, I think it should be reserved for a D-Day+.5 type situation.

Why?

Personally I reckon that if there are a few people who seem pretty scummy, there's no reason not to lynch several people at once, as long as their scumminess doesn't depend on each other. We quite often see a couple of trains with nearly even votes. The only case where it seems a bad idea is when one of them would be potentially cleared by the others CF.

I don't see how it is risky to lynch more than once daily though. Only lynching once just gives the scum more chance to kill. Even if we're wrong, i'd rather it was us deciding who dies. More information that way.

Fair enough, if two people look independentaly, legitimately scummy then it could be useful. I'm just hesitant to go into a lynch without the full knowledge that could be available and with so few players we probably shouldnt be too gung-ho.

@ The Dude - I think if you haven't done anything in a thread for a while (I think 15min, but could be wrong) you are removed from the active users list.

[alt146]

Grief, on 12 July 2010 - 04:01 PM, said:

The Dude, on 12 July 2010 - 03:50 PM, said:

Ahhh yes, good to see another left coaster... means I should have someone to talk to ( or in PB's case, listen to) so I don't pull my hair out with boredom.

I just realised that I may be the only GMT player here, though I don't know about HMQB and Edrigan. That would be a definete first. There's usually quite a few of us.

Well there's myself and DKT...

[Peanutbutta]

@The Dude, I don't think I'm going to post as insanely as I did in the last Spycraft game, but I do tend to be a higher poster, sure.

I'm with Grief in that there's no real downside to several lynches early on. We're almost guaranteed to miss scum in the first lynch anyway, so we slightly increase our odds and learn some good information from two+ trains (who did or didn't want to vote on one train, for example).

With only 10 players I can't imagine we're looking at more than 2 scum.

[Grief]

It's a difficult balance, certainly, and it would be stupid to lynch 2 people whose scumminess is reliant on each other, but since the scum are proabbly balanced to make up for the advantage the multi-lynching gives us, I think not taking advantage of the fact that we can lynch multiple times, will probably give them an edge.

[Grief]

alt146, on 12 July 2010 - 04:07 PM, said:

Grief, on 12 July 2010 - 04:01 PM, said:

The Dude, on 12 July 2010 - 03:50 PM, said:

Ahhh yes, good to see another left coaster... means I should have someone to talk to ( or in PB's case, listen to) so I don't pull my hair out with boredom.

I just realised that I may be the only GMT player here, though I don't know about HMQB and Edrigan. That would be a definete first. There's usually quite a few of us.

Well there's myself and DKT...

Damn spheres. Foiled!

[Grief]

Peanutbutta, on 12 July 2010 - 04:11 PM, said:

With only 10 players I can't imagine we're looking at more than 2 scum.

Paired killers seems the mots likely scenario, as rules say no symps.

I'm going to get some food. Back shortly.

[D'rek]

It is Day 1. 20 hours, 18 minutes remaining.
10 players still alive: alt, dktorode, Edrigan, Grief, HMQB, Mentalist, PB, Silencer, The Dude, Vengeance

6 votes to lynch. 5 to go to night.
No one has voted seriously.

[alt146]

Grief, on 12 July 2010 - 04:11 PM, said:

It's a difficult balance, certainly, and it would be stupid to lynch 2 people whose scumminess is reliant on each other, but since the scum are proabbly balanced to make up for the advantage the multi-lynching gives us, I think not taking advantage of the fact that we can lynch multiple times, will probably give them an edge.

I'm not saying we shouldnt use it, just that we should be careful with it. Anyway, I'm off for a bit, hopefully my internet is decent enough to post tonight - the main internet cable for SA is down at the moment and it's been touch and go the last few evenings.

[The Dude]

In a game with 20 people I can see the merits of voting multiple people before a CF.. but with only 10... if we do it on day 1 we are eliminating 20% of the player base before we even get a CF, then throw in a NK ( and assuming paired killers,, there will be a NK) and we have lost 30% of the players before we even get a CF... sounds risky to me especially on day 1.

[The Dude]

D, on 12 July 2010 - 04:22 PM, said:

It is Day 1. 20 hours, 18 minutes remaining.
10 players still alive: alt, dktorode, Edrigan, Grief, HMQB, Mentalist, PB, Silencer, The Dude, Vengeance

6 votes to lynch. 5 to go to night.
No one has voted seriously.

Didn't Grief vote PB?

[Peanutbutta]

Clearly Grief wasn't serious

[The Dude]

Seriously

vote PB

because I will get more work done if I am not bantering back and forth with him during business hours.
and because I love Peanutbutter and ran out of it 2 days ago...having a constant reminder of my inability to enjoy it's deliciousness angers me. I am serious.

hows that?

EDIT: adn--> and

This post has been edited by The Dude: 12 July 2010 - 05:17 PM

[Peanutbutta]

The Dude, the mechanic probably exists for a reason. WCS, we only have 3 days to get it right (with town lynch + town NK => 10 -> 8 -> 6 DD). But if we lynch two today, even with WCS, we actually gain a little leverage over the scum (10 -> 7 -> 5DD), because we have one less guy we have to look at come D-Day (meaning our odds of getting a correct lynch go up).

[The Dude]

So who hasn't checked in... HMQB, Edge, venge, missing anyone?

[Peanutbutta]

5 haven't checked in.

Edrigan, HMQB, Mentalist, Silencer, Vengeance

[Tapper]

Peanutbutta, on 12 July 2010 - 05:19 PM, said:

5 haven't checked in.

Edrigan, HMQB, Mentalist, Silencer, Vengeance

you might want to log in as an anon, PB... it won't matter to Grief or Silencer, but it will to the others

[The Dude]

Peanutbutta, on 12 July 2010 - 05:18 PM, said:

The Dude, the mechanic probably exists for a reason. WCS, we only have 3 days to get it right (with town lynch + town NK => 10 -> 8 -> 6 DD). But if we lynch two today, even with WCS, we actually gain a little leverage over the scum (10 -> 7 -> 5DD), because we have one less guy we have to look at come D-Day (meaning our odds of getting a correct lynch go up).

I agree, but, wouldn't we be better served to utilize the multiple lynches after day 1? At least we will have some info to go on at that point.

lynch/NK-->8 lynch/lynch/NK-->5DD. I would rather have 1 day of info gathering and do a double lynch day 2 when we have gained some info rather than a day 1 shoot from the hip.

EDIT: dou--> do

This post has been edited by The Dude: 12 July 2010 - 05:23 PM