Quick Ben...gay or celibate?
#21
Posted 03 June 2010 - 08:51 PM
Many gay men have had sex with a woman. That's probably how he found out he was gay.
uhm, that should be 'stuff.' My stiff is never nihilistic.
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#22
Posted 03 June 2010 - 09:16 PM
It seems he retained himself when he absorbed the other souls though, its like he just go thier power . if he didn't then it would be wierd having 12 thoughts at once, all the time. So I just think he absorbed the power, and kept himself, and sexuality the same.
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#23
Posted 03 June 2010 - 09:17 PM
He could be gay AND celibate too of course. I'm with Ulrik, except I don't think QB's confused.
They came with white hands and left with red hands.
#24
Posted 03 June 2010 - 11:12 PM
High Mage Quick Ben, on 03 June 2010 - 09:16 PM, said:
It seems he retained himself when he absorbed the other souls though, its like he just go thier power . if he didn't then it would be wierd having 12 thoughts at once, all the time. So I just think he absorbed the power, and kept himself, and sexuality the same.
hm, i dont really think its so easy. by the time WJ and the BB's catch up with him, he says they have reached an uneasy accord. so it seems that their personalities survived, but they decided not to cause him too much confusion, like one soul taking control of the other eleven. throughout the series he holds himself pretty well, not acting like a man with 12 different personalities. but how long can it last?
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#25
Posted 04 June 2010 - 06:34 AM
Bow chicka wow wow. Something I never really noticed, though it has been a ridiculous time since I've reread.
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#26
Posted 04 June 2010 - 09:00 AM
Adjutant Stormy, on 04 June 2010 - 06:34 AM, said:
Bow chicka wow wow. Something I never really noticed, though it has been a ridiculous time since I've reread.
He's neither... When he hints at WhiskeyJack and Korlat's relationship in book 3, he mentions that it's been a long time and he needs a woman. There is also a mention of him eyeing Lostara in a hmmm..... hmmm.... sorta way in book 4. I never felt that Quick Ben might be a homosexual, but since you guys are mentioning it and my theories added, he probably could be bisexual.. Anyway, who cares. Quick Ben is a kick-ass magician who can weild 7 warrens at the same time.
Celibacy might help with accrual of power. Barring few civilisations, each one suggests that virginity attributes purity and is a path of attaining a higher state of whatever it is that you are pursuing. Hmm,,,,, smoochies he shall not get..
#27
Posted 04 June 2010 - 09:06 AM
Ulrik, on 03 June 2010 - 04:56 PM, said:
With his twelve souls...he is easily bi...or L n Bi...and because we dont know some souls, he can be hetero, homo, bi, L and maybe something completely special...
Damn, he must be really confused about his sexuality.
Damn, he must be really confused about his sexuality.
About that SE mentions several characters who have been "used" many times by both men and women. Certifiably, those chars are bi. But, if you pay close attention, he also mentions that the people who use the bi people for "ahem" jiggy/happy time are those closest to the bi people. Makes you kinda wonder, who's what????
JJJ in The Dragonfly movie: Whenever you are sleeping with someone, you are sleeping with all the people they have slept with. Does it make you gay?? Yes, it does....
#28
Posted 05 June 2010 - 03:13 PM
I was wondering this not because I care about his sexuality, it was just another one of those moments in the series when a character's thoughts was vague and cryptic... which happens a lot with Erikson.
Anyway, I now vaguely recall now that comment he made about having not being with a woman for a long time. He's probably actually asexual, in the sense that so much traumatic shit has happened/is happening that his libido has disappeared.
Anyway, I now vaguely recall now that comment he made about having not being with a woman for a long time. He's probably actually asexual, in the sense that so much traumatic shit has happened/is happening that his libido has disappeared.
#29
Posted 05 June 2010 - 04:08 PM
Just my theory.
I might be completely wrong and I kinda forgot in wich part of Reaper's Gale this is. But this occured to me when reading the question.
Where they entering the realm
I might be completely wrong and I kinda forgot in wich part of Reaper's Gale this is. But this occured to me when reading the question.
Where they entering the realm
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#30
Posted 05 June 2010 - 07:39 PM
OH FOR THE LOVE OF FUCK
He's just been too busy thinking up schemes to save the entire world a dozen times over to care about romance at the moment. WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE WHETHER HE FUCKS GIRLS OR DUDES.
He still totally fucked Lostara.
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He's just been too busy thinking up schemes to save the entire world a dozen times over to care about romance at the moment. WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE WHETHER HE FUCKS GIRLS OR DUDES.
He still totally fucked Lostara.
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#31
Posted 05 June 2010 - 08:16 PM
Whiskeyjack and Quick Ben walk into a bar. A gay bar. A personal gay bar, in Whiskeyjack's apartment. They make a few drinks and settle down on the couch. "Are you hurt, Whiskey?" asks Ben. "Here let's take a look at that leg. Does it hurt here?" The ankle. "Here?" The calf. "Or here?" The thigh. "Or perhaps a bit further up? Let me soothe that pain."
They came with white hands and left with red hands.
#32
Posted 21 July 2010 - 09:42 PM
Illuyankas, on 05 June 2010 - 07:39 PM, said:
OH FOR THE LOVE OF FUCK
He's just been too busy thinking up schemes to save the entire world a dozen times over to care about romance at the moment. WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE WHETHER HE FUCKS GIRLS OR DUDES.
He still totally fucked Lostara.
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He's just been too busy thinking up schemes to save the entire world a dozen times over to care about romance at the moment. WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE WHETHER HE FUCKS GIRLS OR DUDES.
He still totally fucked Lostara.
BY OFFICIAL DECREE EVERY POSTER AFTER ME IN THIS THREAD IS A FANFIC 'AUTHOR' RESEARCHING THEIR WHISKEYJACK/QUICK BEN SLASHFIC
IF YOU DON'T WANT TO BE A FANFIC 'AUTHOR' DON'T POST
LOL...damn, you sure made me do some abs with you decree....anyway, who cares, as you said, he still nailed Lostara...either that or the woman is using some serious self - Mockrization ( is that even English?) to fulfill her innermost fantasies.
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#33
Posted 04 August 2010 - 05:14 PM
Just came across the quote from MoI:
Quick has always seemed a little effeminate, but I don't think he would have made this comment if he were gay.
Memories of Ice, Tor trade paperback, p. 474 said:
"Gods, the ego!" [Korlat] gestured with her free hand and a ghostly figure took form in front of Whiskeyjack. A familiar face - that smiled.
"What a charming sight," the apparition said, eyeing them. "Hood knows, I can't recall the last time I had a woman."
"Watch your tongue, Quick Ben," Whiskeyjack growled, disengaging his hand from Korlat's. "It's been awhile, and you look terrible."
"What a charming sight," the apparition said, eyeing them. "Hood knows, I can't recall the last time I had a woman."
"Watch your tongue, Quick Ben," Whiskeyjack growled, disengaging his hand from Korlat's. "It's been awhile, and you look terrible."
Quick has always seemed a little effeminate, but I don't think he would have made this comment if he were gay.
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#34
Posted 05 August 2010 - 09:31 PM
He says it's a long time since he had a woman. You could read into that that it's not all that long since he had a man... 
I'd argue he's celibate by choice and that his sexuality, whatever it may be, serves as a distraction from his purpose so he just squashes it.
Also, as I'm told I resemble some peoples' mental image of QB's appearance, it's very obvious that he must be a very fine looking, sexy, sexy man

I'd argue he's celibate by choice and that his sexuality, whatever it may be, serves as a distraction from his purpose so he just squashes it.
Also, as I'm told I resemble some peoples' mental image of QB's appearance, it's very obvious that he must be a very fine looking, sexy, sexy man

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#35
Posted 05 August 2010 - 10:03 PM
hehehe, now that's a post/avatar combo!
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#36
Posted 05 August 2010 - 10:48 PM
ansible, on 04 August 2010 - 05:14 PM, said:
"What a charming sight," the apparition said, eyeing them. "Hood knows, I can't recall the last time I had a woman."
Maybe is one of his souls cannibal... Yeees...First Tenescowri and thats why QB was afraid revealing by Anomander! Yes, I know timeline is wrong, but, we all know timelines bussines, dont we? I told it first, remember it! Witness!
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#37
Posted 06 August 2010 - 10:57 AM
Quick Ben fucks with gods. He doesn't need men or women

#38
Posted 24 August 2010 - 05:52 AM
I'd like to point out that, if Quick did fuck Lostara, he's a pedophile. Consider this:
Lostara was 7 years old when she was taken into the Temple of Rashan in Ehrlitan.
Then, quote from House of Chains, page 390 of US paperback:
Setting foot into the city's streets the following morning, after seven years absence...
Seven when she was taken in, and served/danced at the temple for seven years until it was destroyed. Making her fourteen. Naughty naughty!
So, he's either gay or a pedophile. Or both.
It's hard to recall something that never happened.
Lostara was 7 years old when she was taken into the Temple of Rashan in Ehrlitan.
Then, quote from House of Chains, page 390 of US paperback:
Setting foot into the city's streets the following morning, after seven years absence...
Seven when she was taken in, and served/danced at the temple for seven years until it was destroyed. Making her fourteen. Naughty naughty!
So, he's either gay or a pedophile. Or both.
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"What a charming sight," the apparition said, eyeing them. "Hood knows, I can't recall the last time I had a woman."
It's hard to recall something that never happened.
uhm, that should be 'stuff.' My stiff is never nihilistic.
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#39
Posted 24 August 2010 - 07:24 AM
14 is like 40 in those Roman-times type conditions.
They came with white hands and left with red hands.
#40
Posted 26 August 2010 - 02:33 PM