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Spycraft 63, Trouble in Tokyo game thread, opens 18th of may.

#2621 User is offline   Mockra 

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Posted 31 May 2010 - 05:50 AM

^ And that's based upon the simple fact that all four of them survived to level 5. That means they probably had no problem with those VCs.

#2622 User is offline   Mockra 

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Posted 31 May 2010 - 05:53 AM

We could lynch someone that we know or are pretty sure can kill like Shelatha, but I think it's less of a risk to keep him around right now. I believe the Russian team has the ability to neutralize him for a while.

I know people aren't going to want to just listen to every piece of my plan because of course, my plan will ultimately lead my team to victory over the others, but I also feel like every team here should acknowledge that the Euro team definitely has the advantage here.

#2623 User is offline   Mockra 

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Posted 31 May 2010 - 05:54 AM

Vote Olar Ethil

Simply because I know the least of him out of his team.

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Posted 31 May 2010 - 06:03 AM

Well Ruse and whoever else is lurking, any thoughts? I'm still fairly absent for the rest of this game, so you won't get this kind of attention from me for a while.

#2625 User is offline   Spite 

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Posted 31 May 2010 - 06:07 AM

Just pretty quick to jump at what ruse said, not to say we should vote him just saying not to be so quick to believe him.

#2626 User is offline   Galain 

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Posted 31 May 2010 - 06:07 AM

I like how your talking down the Russian victory conditions Mockra when I'm pretty certain you have the 5 point condition and some of the 2 point conditions. Do recall I have been fortunate enough to see a number of the Russian Role PMs from various contacts.


But to be honest, I am uninterested in playing around with factions trying to win it for my faction, we have found the scum and at this point I am happy to let the chips fall as they are.

If I win, great, if not its been an enjoyable game and that how it goes. At this point I'd suggest that the Americans and Chinese are definitly out, and the other 3 are all in with a shot.

#2627 User is offline   Mockra 

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Posted 31 May 2010 - 06:17 AM

@Spite, I see no reason for Ruse to falsely admit he is scum. He's asking to get his ass NKd or lynched. But he also probably knows that scum have a very impossible task this team. They didn't realize that they were being watched all game, and that probably will annoy them in spoilers. I believed that Spycraft 1 was very hard for scum to win and this game clearly had so much protection in play that it was even harder for them to win.

That said, Ruse is smartly trying to get the factions at each other's throats because that is of course his only chance, even if it's an outside one. And because my end game plans revolved around Ruse being the last member of the Chinese and you as the last member of the scum, I'd like to thank him for making sure I didn't accidentally hand the game to the EU or Japanese.
@Galain, I actually with you in every sense but one. This game was an absolute privilege to play and I am satisfied with my performance, win or lose (no hard feelings, is what I'm saying). But, while the game goes on, I will do my best to win and right now that involves hamstringing any faction that I believe is in the lead, and that is almost certainly your faction.

#2628 User is offline   Mockra 

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Posted 31 May 2010 - 06:20 AM

And that's where I disagree with you. Letting the chips fall where they may will just give another team the win, probably yours, possibly Shelatha Lore's. And so I will definitely engage in faction play. The Americans are almost certainly out of it and the Chinese probably can only win by going to the end and trying to win on points (ideally, Spite would be alive with Ruse and just 1 person left from another faction, probably Russian, since making other factions lose their 15 pointers will be a key way to try and win).

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Posted 31 May 2010 - 06:25 AM

View PostMockra, on 31 May 2010 - 06:17 AM, said:

That said, Ruse is smartly trying to get the factions at each other's throats because that is of course his only chance, even if it's an outside one. And because my end game plans revolved around Ruse being the last member of the Chinese and you as the last member of the scum, I'd like to thank him for making sure I didn't accidentally hand the game to the EU or Japanese.


Maybe not falsely but that is why he would admit he is scum, i am just saying there might be another, i would just be more comfortable if we had the cf of fener

#2630 User is offline   Mockra 

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Posted 31 May 2010 - 06:29 AM

You're welcome to try and lynch Fener today to confirm his scumminess, but I know it to be a waste of time since he is due to expire any time now.

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Posted 31 May 2010 - 06:34 AM

Well in any case if we aim to lynch a euro i think it is safer to go with one that we can recognize in a lot of scenes. More actions likely means less passives.

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Posted 31 May 2010 - 06:39 AM

I disagree. I don't think anybody has said who Olar is which probably means he's hard to identify in scenes. Kaschan and Galain are both acrobatic types and seem to have fewer killing abilities, since I don't think we've seen any of them try to kill anybody (I'm sure at least half the roles in the game have one killing ability so maybe it's being saved or whatever), but Olar is a big mystery.

For example, maybe the swordsman is really Olar and not Shelatha. I assumed it was Shelatha because I know Shelatha is Japanese and that team kills people, but it may really be Olar instead. In fact, I also think Shelatha may be a female character, now that I think about it, which could make it more likely to be Olar.

Anyway, I don't like mystery players like that. You don't get to be mystery man at this point in the game.

#2633 User is offline   Mockra 

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Posted 31 May 2010 - 06:40 AM

Heading to bed in a bit here... will be on in the morning but then gone for most of the day, including the lynch timer.

#2634 User is offline   Galain 

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Posted 31 May 2010 - 06:42 AM

Well then would you like to lynch me, as I have no interest in contining to play the game.

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Posted 31 May 2010 - 06:43 AM

That comment makes me sad.

#2636 User is offline   Mockra 

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Posted 31 May 2010 - 06:48 AM

No, Galain, I do not, because I'm guessing now that Olar probably gives you a good shot to win the game, possibly with a killing ability against Ruse tonight.

I do understand the "end game" frustration. When teams are known or evaluated, it can become frustrating. For example, the Euros waltzed into today with 4 members alive and well, and then someone (Silanah, I'm guessing) shot Tellan in the face. And now what could have been a win for you guys could be taken away instantly.

It's kind of funny that you almost don't want to be the best at the end of the game... because everyone wants to kill you at that point.

#2637 User is offline   Mockra 

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Posted 31 May 2010 - 06:50 AM

That said, Galain, you're welcome to self vote and maybe players will honor your wish :o

#2638 User is offline   Mockra 

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Posted 31 May 2010 - 06:50 AM

Er scratch that, no self voting :o

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Posted 31 May 2010 - 06:56 AM

Well, good night all. I think I've made my points clear enough.

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Posted 31 May 2010 - 07:04 AM

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Vote Olar Ethil



Euros are in the driver seat guys, if you don't believe that, fair enough. Watch them lynch the remaining scum and (with Feners' death) weep.

And, with that, I'm out til Tuesday.

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