[D'riss]

Olar Ethil, on 27 May 2010 - 09:34 PM, said:

For Completeness' sake, I would also throw up the failed Rashan Train... the train that actually killed him was a speed lynch, and I know I and some others were asleep at the time of the actual Rashan lynch. But we should be able to get info from the failed train too.

its the first one i quoted.

[Olar Ethil]

Well, looking at those trains... Omtose wasn't on any of the lynch trains get him!!!

oh wait...we're already doing that

[Gamelon]

D, on 27 May 2010 - 09:35 PM, said:

I think hp was euro syndicate, the player that did the score update way back on day 2 got the ability and a find on tellan of euro syndicate though i am ninety nine percent certain that tellan is not european nor syndicate.

Wait, so so you're saying someone already got a find that Tellan is euro syndicate...but that find was somehow wrong?

[Silanah]

Jesus christ you people, he gathers 6 votes in 3 hours? Try not to be a bunch of little sheep and actually examine what happened in more than one post before you lynch somebody (especially you, Mockra). I was really quite skeptical of Omtose's innocence yesterday, now I'm not quite so sure of D'riss'. We have a man with a combat knife and a bull pup going around trying to murder everybody, whom Omtose fingered as American Syndicate. We have D'riss walking around like he's fucking God asking people to identify themselves in scenes. The guy is deliberately asking people to modkill themselves (Ruse and Omtose), despite saying the modgod would slap him if he did it himself.

D, on 26 May 2010 - 06:12 PM, said:

I cannot label the scenes that am in, Liosan as that would be a reveal and the mod god would slap me.

We also have D'riss saying he was the target of Hinder actions on night 5.

D, on 26 May 2010 - 02:43 PM, said:

Eloth, on 26 May 2010 - 02:38 PM, said:

Do you know that?....or is it a guess?

That information i cannot divulge, but if i was syndicate i would not have cleared Kaschan and pushed for Rashan as I did. Ruse is the smoking woman from day one. i tried to use cases and votes but there is a rather high possibility that I may expire as i have been the target of hinders since i made my case on ruse yesterday.

Here's a failed action on night 4:

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The man with the handlebar moustache looked at the moon. It was a fine night for his kind of work: bright, moonlit. He wouldn’t require night vision goggles, which he didn’t have, anyway. He set out, sticking to the darkest places, combat knife under his jacket. The first he wanted to chase down was the acrobatic one, and he knew he had to be early before she took to the rooftops. The second… she would be a pain to find, and he would be in trouble if she found out he wanted to keep her indoors. He wasn’t sure he could succeed in that, not even at knifepoint.

Here's a hinder action on night 5:

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She had just finished her instructions and written her will when he came through the door, bull pup assault gun at the ready, teeth bared under his moustache, but before he could do so much as pull the trigger, four of her men jumped him. She left the building, calmly, confident her trap would either kill him, or at the least keep him occupied.
Inside, the assailant employed brutal hand-to-hand techniques, breaking arms, necks and legs, smashing kneecaps and cutting throats with a vicious combat knife. Finally, all was silent. He picked up his gun and left, thoroughly dissatisfied but unharmed save for several bruises. Amateurs. To add insult to injury, some shadowy figure tried to slow him down with throwing stars. If he ever caught that one, he’d have a quiet talk on how to run a proper commando raid, before he killed him, of course.

D, on 27 May 2010 - 06:41 PM, said:

vote omtose

You must be the guy in the back of the car and ordered meanas to do the hit. Meaning rashan and meanas where you puppets the whole time. So the man with the glasses did a find on ruse as well. I see she is building her bp's up again.

This is really a bit of shaky logic to me. Omtose is supposedly scum yet his minion Meanas CF'd as Chinese Spy. I find it hard to believe virtually every 'scum' has CF'd Spy.

D, on 27 May 2010 - 06:56 PM, said:

Mockra, on 27 May 2010 - 06:54 PM, said:

So I don't see any reason to not lynch Omtose.

And I'm now thinking D'riss case on Ruse is flawed. I think Ruse is probably a Chinese minion master, maybe the last member of the Chinese team, but not scum. The scum CF of the Barghast alt was probably a decoy.

Well i think ruse sent those bikers to kill someone and i think if that finder who study her at the end has some evidence they should come forward. If glasses man is the playboy like i think he should have some lovers to relay the find through.

Right, so the woman in the pinstripe suit=smoking woman now? Get your story straight, D'riss.

And I find it difficult to believe you've been listening to the Syndicate the whole time, and have the power to kill. If you can reconcile these facts, I might be inclined to believe you. As it stands, I am not.

I'm leaving for a few hours. Try not to speed lynch anyone in my absence.

[Gamelon]

Shit, so going by the ability someone could auto-lynch him right now, right (3 less votes to lynch)?

Remove vote


edit: I'm referring to the ability Fener referenced earlier in the thread.

This post has been edited by Gamelon: 27 May 2010 - 10:27 PM

[Silanah]

Gamelon, on 27 May 2010 - 10:26 PM, said:

Shit, so going by the ability someone could auto-lynch him right now, right (3 less votes to lynch)?

Remove vote


edit: I'm referring to the ability Fener referenced earlier in the thread.

Yes, which is why everybody needs to stop going 'RABBLE RABBLE!' and try to make sense of what happened last night.

[D'riss]

Get my story straight? The woman i am talking about ruse being always has her gang of thugs with her. So when a gang of thugs attack someone thats who i am going to suspectis behind it, wf. Frankly I don't care if you believe me or not silanah. I think after omtose is lynched we have one more syndicate player to go. i have had no luck discerning other memebrs of my team and think we are well behind the scoring anyway given the amount of failed actions and hinders I have suffered so I am in no position to care about faction play. I would be very surprised if the game does not end tomorrow if we complete a lynch of omtose today. I didnt hesitate when rashan was on the block, and you can't say I am not pushing omtose either when i posted that pm last night. Now you are drawing a definite conclusion about who I am so why not read the scenes from last night again. The character you think is me was clearly protecting gl and was not involved in their death. You think I could just guess that omtose had an lp and was going to kill those exact two players without being able to intercept his comms?

[D'riss]

I will be back on in the morning. We still need to wait twelve hours for the dusk period to pass, so there is no rush for the lynch.

[Mockra]

Baa ram ewe?

Silanah, I didn't ask for a speed lynch, but do you really think there's some reason we shouldn't lynch Omtose after it was, you know, proven that he was lynch proof?

[Silanah]

D, on 27 May 2010 - 10:33 PM, said:

Get my story straight? The woman i am talking about ruse being always has her gang of thugs with her. So when a gang of thugs attack someone thats who i am going to suspectis behind it, wf. Frankly I don't care if you believe me or not silanah. I think after omtose is lynched we have one more syndicate player to go. i have had no luck discerning other memebrs of my team and think we are well behind the scoring anyway given the amount of failed actions and hinders I have suffered so I am in no position to care about faction play. I would be very surprised if the game does not end tomorrow if we complete a lynch of omtose today. I didnt hesitate when rashan was on the block, and you can't say I am not pushing omtose either when i posted that pm last night. Now you are drawing a definite conclusion about who I am so why not read the scenes from last night again. The character you think is me was clearly protecting gl and was not involved in their death. You think I could just guess that omtose had an lp and was going to kill those exact two players without being able to intercept his comms?

Ah yes, the downplay. 'My team is losing, wah wah, I can't possibly have an ulterior motive here'. Stop feeding everyone bullshit, D'riss, I think they're starting to like it.

I know who a woman with thugs is, and it sure as shit ain't Ruse. Like I've always suspected, there's been more than one person with thugs. One who you walked into a trap on night 5, the chick in her mansion, and the smoking woman, if I have my guesses right. I have a hard time believing they're all scum.

As for the deaths last night, your PM is decidedly vague on how it goes down. How exactly did Omtose kill Meanas and GL (since that's what he said he would do)? Short answer? He didn't. Meanas killed GL on his orders and then you killed Meanas. I have no idea how you knew that, but since GL was some kind of spokeswoman/reporter person, I wouldn't be surprised if GL could see people's action PMs or something like that. It's fairly easy to doctor a time stamp, and as for them both CFing Spy, it only makes sense for Omtose to kill two Chinese (if that's even who they were) if he was scum. Yet a scum who is able to order his own innocent teammates around? That is ridiculously overpowered. As for knowing LPs, big woop. In a game with so many BPs and LPs, I find it inconceivable there isn't some sort of find that give that information.

So frankly, you should care that I don't believe you, D'riss, because your story has more holes in it than this Swiss cheese I'm eating.

[Silanah]

Mockra, on 27 May 2010 - 10:49 PM, said:

Baa ram ewe?

Silanah, I didn't ask for a speed lynch, but do you really think there's some reason we shouldn't lynch Omtose after it was, you know, proven that he was lynch proof?

This might look like I'm defending the hell out of Omtose, but I don't really give a fuck at this point. LP =/= scum. I can tell you the names of other players (whom I know to be innocent) that have LPs. Should we test that too? Until I see some reason to believe D'riss isn't pulling the wool over your eyes, I'm not voting for an Omtose lynch. Simple as that. If, however, a lynch goes through without me and Omtose turns up Spy, I'll be here saying I told you so, while D'riss will be laughing maniacally over how easily he played you all. It's pretty damn obvious who Omtose is, but like I said, a scum that can compel his innocent teammates to kill people is just ludicrous, especially when the Chinese don't even need to kill for their VCs. Notice also how virtually the first thing D'riss does after Omtose 'outs' him is say 'oh wait, I have a PM that conveniently outlines what Omtose just did and says he has an LP and will kill Meanas and GL tonight, so don't believe him, guys'. Give me a fucking break.

Real subtle defending of him over the last few days as well, Mockra. You're a regular James Bond, you are.

[Galain]

Hello all, and I'm back.

Well interesting developments, I'm going to go out on a limb here and ask, is there recruitment in this game? If so, Silanah looks like he's been recruited. He's had a very distinct change of attitude which I find puzzling and I'm either going to say FM or Recruitment.



Everything adds up to D'riss being absolutely correct. The lynch BP and the kills and what I have heard about D'riss.

[Silanah]

Galain, on 28 May 2010 - 01:34 AM, said:

Hello all, and I'm back.

Well interesting developments, I'm going to go out on a limb here and ask, is there recruitment in this game? If so, Silanah looks like he's been recruited. He's had a very distinct change of attitude which I find puzzling and I'm either going to say FM or Recruitment.



Everything adds up to D'riss being absolutely correct. The lynch BP and the kills and what I have heard about D'riss.

Nice try, but no, I haven't been recruited (pretty sure there is though). At the time I believed D'riss, but after seeing the night and today's scenes and reading up what happened I find myself way more unsure about D'riss than I am about Omtose. I mean, come on, nothing - nothing at all - strikes you as suspicious or out of place? You have got to be kidding me. He is definitely not playing his whole hand (or, I imagine, is anyone), and the PM about the deaths doesn't even make sense in light of what happened, since Omtose didn't kill either of them.

And Galain? Point out where I'm wrong rather than throw accusations of recruitment around and vague hints about 'what you've heard'. We in all likelihood wasted a lynch on Omtose yesterday, two innocents died (from what we know), and if we lynch Omtose again we give scum another shot at us. Cannot believe no one is seeing this but me.

[Galain]

Really? Well I mean in the past your posts have struck me as thoughtful and considered and reasonable. Your starting to rant and rave a little now in Omtose defence. Everything points to Omtose being scum at this point.

And lets take what you thought yesterday about D'riss reveal of infomation.

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Wow, that was a ton of stuff to take in. Well, I'd certainly be down with an Omtose lynch. That PM D'riss quoted is certainly more incriminating than Omtose's 'Ha! got you' message.

Complete reversal today.

Must suck having to defend the outed scum, you have my sympathy Silanah.

[Liosan]

D, on 27 May 2010 - 10:33 PM, said:

Get my story straight? The woman i am talking about ruse being always has her gang of thugs with her. So when a gang of thugs attack someone thats who i am going to suspectis behind it, wf. Frankly I don't care if you believe me or not silanah. I think after omtose is lynched we have one more syndicate player to go. i have had no luck discerning other memebrs of my team and think we are well behind the scoring anyway given the amount of failed actions and hinders I have suffered so I am in no position to care about faction play. I would be very surprised if the game does not end tomorrow if we complete a lynch of omtose today. I didnt hesitate when rashan was on the block, and you can't say I am not pushing omtose either when i posted that pm last night. Now you are drawing a definite conclusion about who I am so why not read the scenes from last night again. The character you think is me was clearly protecting gl and was not involved in their death. You think I could just guess that omtose had an lp and was going to kill those exact two players without being able to intercept his comms?

This strikes me as abominably wrong. We have ONE assured Syndicate dead. And, perhaps HP. Even if Omtose were scum, one more would give us 4. A team of 4 Syndicate in a game this big? Seriously?

Gamelon, on 27 May 2010 - 10:04 PM, said:

D, on 27 May 2010 - 09:35 PM, said:

I think hp was euro syndicate, the player that did the score update way back on day 2 got the ability and a find on tellan of euro syndicate though i am ninety nine percent certain that tellan is not european nor syndicate.

Wait, so so you're saying someone already got a find that Tellan is euro syndicate...but that find was somehow wrong?

And I think this is a rather pertinent question as well.

[Liosan]

D'riss, why not just post every single piece of Syndicate chatter, other than ones that would out yourself. I'd be willing to have my cover blown to have that information on thread.

[Silanah]

Galain, on 28 May 2010 - 02:04 AM, said:

Really? Well I mean in the past your posts have struck me as thoughtful and considered and reasonable. Your starting to rant and rave a little now in Omtose defence. Everything points to Omtose being scum at this point.

And lets take what you thought yesterday about D'riss reveal of infomation.

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Wow, that was a ton of stuff to take in. Well, I'd certainly be down with an Omtose lynch. That PM D'riss quoted is certainly more incriminating than Omtose's 'Ha! got you' message.

Complete reversal today.

Must suck having to defend the outed scum, you have my sympathy Silanah.

You can quote, so can I.

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At the time I believed D'riss, but after seeing the night and today's scenes and reading up what happened I find myself way more unsure about D'riss than I am about Omtose

And if people were dismissing Omtose's find on D'riss for the reason of lack of scene, where's my recruitment scene, hmm? 'Everything' points to Omtose being scum? Hardly. If everything pointed to Omtose being scum, I wouldn't be 'ranting and raving', now would I? So quit strawmanning. Again Galain, show me where my facts are wrong and I'll be happy to vote for Omtose. I'm not so proud to admit I'm wrong.

EDIT - added 'be'

This post has been edited by Silanah: 28 May 2010 - 02:20 AM

[Silanah]

Liosan, on 28 May 2010 - 02:11 AM, said:

D, on 27 May 2010 - 10:33 PM, said:

Get my story straight? The woman i am talking about ruse being always has her gang of thugs with her. So when a gang of thugs attack someone thats who i am going to suspectis behind it, wf. Frankly I don't care if you believe me or not silanah. I think after omtose is lynched we have one more syndicate player to go. i have had no luck discerning other memebrs of my team and think we are well behind the scoring anyway given the amount of failed actions and hinders I have suffered so I am in no position to care about faction play. I would be very surprised if the game does not end tomorrow if we complete a lynch of omtose today. I didnt hesitate when rashan was on the block, and you can't say I am not pushing omtose either when i posted that pm last night. Now you are drawing a definite conclusion about who I am so why not read the scenes from last night again. The character you think is me was clearly protecting gl and was not involved in their death. You think I could just guess that omtose had an lp and was going to kill those exact two players without being able to intercept his comms?

This strikes me as abominably wrong. We have ONE assured Syndicate dead. And, perhaps HP. Even if Omtose were scum, one more would give us 4. A team of 4 Syndicate in a game this big? Seriously?

This is a very good point. Besides, we've been ignoring recruitment all game it seems, so what assurances does anyone have that scum aren't recruiting? None whatsoever unless they want to reveal what they know.

[Silanah]

By the way Galain, I'm 'ranting and raving' because I'm absolutely astonished that D'riss has virtually gotten PI'd because we've been scared of the big bogeyman in the car all game, and completely and utterly convinced he's scum. We were fairly sure smoking lady was scum, weren't we, and we still don't know if that's true. My posts have been no less thoughtful, considered or reasonable, despite my change in tone.

EDIT - unless you care to show me where? (that's thrice now)

This post has been edited by Silanah: 28 May 2010 - 02:24 AM

[Silanah]

Am I all alone again?