[Galain]

 Liosan, on 21 May 2010 - 04:29 AM, said:

 Galain, on 21 May 2010 - 03:55 AM, said:

Wow! I was just about to start composing my post about my thoughts on whats happened over night and then Shadow does that.

I cannot decide if you are amazingly stupid, or are scum. Just in case its the latter.
Vote Shadow

You do realise, the only way we win this game is by lynching the Syndicate right? And you are wanting us to lynch one of two PI?

 Galain, on 21 May 2010 - 04:03 AM, said:

 Liosan, on 21 May 2010 - 03:56 AM, said:

How in the world is Kaschan PI?

I didn't say they were, Shadow said he believed Korvalain about the factions then voted accordingly.

 Galain, on 21 May 2010 - 04:22 AM, said:

 Shadow, on 21 May 2010 - 04:15 AM, said:

 Galain, on 21 May 2010 - 04:10 AM, said:

 Shadow, on 21 May 2010 - 03:44 AM, said:

So, the Europeans are still in the lead, huh?

Considering that the Americans have a victory condition to identify other factions, and they've already gotten some hypothetical points from doing it successfully, I'm inclined to believe that Korvalain was not merely guessing when he pronounced Kaschan as being European. And since the Europeans are currently in the lead, whilst I don't have anyone particularly pinging my scum radar at this time (at least not more than my experience tells me is perfectly normal for the average non-scum), I favour the option of voting for the European and hopefully halting that nationality's progress.

Vote Kaschan

Here where you said, that you believed Korvalain he wasn't guessing about the factions and said he was European. So your voting for a member of the town that is in the different faction from you trying to halt that nationalitys progess. Well thats how I read it anyway. Are you saying its something else?

Oh please, Galain, don't try to pretend that you think PI somehow means something other than not-syndicate. Me believing that Kaschan is European has no effect on whether he is syndicate or not. You, on the other hand, seem to be saying otherwise for some reason...

Unless you think he's a symp then he's a PI yes. Someone else has revealed that he's a member of the town (which you have said you believe) and then you have voted accordingly for that person, you have said you are voting for him because he's a member of town, but in a different faction. Not because he's a symp, or syndicate, which in IMO is wrong.

Which one is it? They were PI, you didn't say they were PI, and now they are PI again?

Let me run through it for you. First recall and its stated in the opening post, that its a town vs scum game, nor a mercenary game or anything. Its Town vs Scum. The spies (the factions) are the town, and the syndicate are the scum. If there are people
on the syndicate who come back as members of a town faction, they would be called symps, although there is one exception, noted below.


Shadow came on and said he was voting Kaschan, because Kaschan is European. He knows Kaschan is European because of the reveal of Korvalain yesteday which he accepted and mentioned in his post.

I said he was stupid in doing so and voted for him, saying that Shadow is voting for people he considers PI, after all he is voting them not for because he thinks they are syndicate, nor for being a symp which would be the main reason for voting someone whose faction came back as one of the town factions. Instead he is voting for them for being a member of the town (in the current winning town faction though).

If he made a case that Kaschan is a symp or is scum in some way to explain away the fact he believes Korvalain's reveal, then thats fine. But he didn't. He voted for them, for being a member of town.

I pointed out he was voting for people that are PI in his eyes, i.e he didn't think Kaschan was a symp or anything along those lines, despite having a town faction reveal. And also please note, Silanah was temped to vote for Shadow as well, and refered to Kaschan and Omtose as innos.

The last comment, "Unless you think he's a symp then he's a PI yes" I am talking to Shadow. I am explaining that unless he thinks people that have come back as American, Chinese, European etc, are not symps, then they would be PI's. In the last game, one member of the syndicate at level 2 could come back from an investigation as a member of town, that is true, which is why people can only ever be PI in this game, unless you know more about them from some other method.

[Silanah]

 Tellan, on 21 May 2010 - 06:36 AM, said:

Seems the game is finally heating up.

I think Galain is a little confused as to the difference between nationality and faction - I get the impression that someone could still CF as EU syndicate member and without knowing the details of Korv's finds (assuming he told us the truth), we can't be sure if he would be told nationality or faction...

So I can see Galains logic, although I'm not sure about his whole "you're talking about PI, no I am" thing. I doubt he is syndicate though - the only reason syndicate would step up in someone else's defense like that would be if the other person was also syndicate. While that is a possibility, I'm more inclined to believe Korv would likely get faction results back as opposed to nationality results back. They have to learn the exact composition of two spy teams before the end of the game. Knowing syndicate members within a faction too would likely mess with that objective, so it would probably only be the case if someone's role specifically messed with finds - ala the symps from last game.

I think you're confusing faction and nationality as well - by faction do you mean spy/syndicate? I think that's officially termed 'alignment'. If you are the bolded sentence makes no sense, since factions are American, Chinese, EU etc (nationality and faction=same thing)...

I would think that if Korv had found that either of his finds turned up a Syndicate member, rather than simply a nationality as is more likely, as an inno he would have told us rather than minimalise his flow of info (which only hinders town), in the hope of saving his life and PIing himself by outing a scum member (who would then get lynched). As it was, he went down with barely a whimper, information wise. The nationality reveals read more as spite than hoping to share info and save himself.

[Spite]

 Galain, on 21 May 2010 - 06:47 AM, said:

 Liosan, on 21 May 2010 - 04:29 AM, said:

 Galain, on 21 May 2010 - 03:55 AM, said:

Wow! I was just about to start composing my post about my thoughts on whats happened over night and then Shadow does that.

I cannot decide if you are amazingly stupid, or are scum. Just in case its the latter.
Vote Shadow

You do realise, the only way we win this game is by lynching the Syndicate right? And you are wanting us to lynch one of two PI?

 Galain, on 21 May 2010 - 04:03 AM, said:

 Liosan, on 21 May 2010 - 03:56 AM, said:

How in the world is Kaschan PI?

I didn't say they were, Shadow said he believed Korvalain about the factions then voted accordingly.

 Galain, on 21 May 2010 - 04:22 AM, said:

 Shadow, on 21 May 2010 - 04:15 AM, said:

 Galain, on 21 May 2010 - 04:10 AM, said:

 Shadow, on 21 May 2010 - 03:44 AM, said:

So, the Europeans are still in the lead, huh?

Considering that the Americans have a victory condition to identify other factions, and they've already gotten some hypothetical points from doing it successfully, I'm inclined to believe that Korvalain was not merely guessing when he pronounced Kaschan as being European. And since the Europeans are currently in the lead, whilst I don't have anyone particularly pinging my scum radar at this time (at least not more than my experience tells me is perfectly normal for the average non-scum), I favour the option of voting for the European and hopefully halting that nationality's progress.

Vote Kaschan

Here where you said, that you believed Korvalain he wasn't guessing about the factions and said he was European. So your voting for a member of the town that is in the different faction from you trying to halt that nationalitys progess. Well thats how I read it anyway. Are you saying its something else?

Oh please, Galain, don't try to pretend that you think PI somehow means something other than not-syndicate. Me believing that Kaschan is European has no effect on whether he is syndicate or not. You, on the other hand, seem to be saying otherwise for some reason...

Unless you think he's a symp then he's a PI yes. Someone else has revealed that he's a member of the town (which you have said you believe) and then you have voted accordingly for that person, you have said you are voting for him because he's a member of town, but in a different faction. Not because he's a symp, or syndicate, which in IMO is wrong.

Which one is it? They were PI, you didn't say they were PI, and now they are PI again?

Let me run through it for you. First recall and its stated in the opening post, that its a town vs scum game, nor a mercenary game or anything. Its Town vs Scum. The spies (the factions) are the town, and the syndicate are the scum. If there are people
on the syndicate who come back as members of a town faction, they would be called symps, although there is one exception, noted below.


Shadow came on and said he was voting Kaschan, because Kaschan is European. He knows Kaschan is European because of the reveal of Korvalain yesteday which he accepted and mentioned in his post.

I said he was stupid in doing so and voted for him, saying that Shadow is voting for people he considers PI, after all he is voting them not for because he thinks they are syndicate, nor for being a symp which would be the main reason for voting someone whose faction came back as one of the town factions. Instead he is voting for them for being a member of the town (in the current winning town faction though).

If he made a case that Kaschan is a symp or is scum in some way to explain away the fact he believes Korvalain's reveal, then thats fine. But he didn't. He voted for them, for being a member of town.

I pointed out he was voting for people that are PI in his eyes, i.e he didn't think Kaschan was a symp or anything along those lines, despite having a town faction reveal. And also please note, Silanah was temped to vote for Shadow as well, and refered to Kaschan and Omtose as innos.

The last comment, "Unless you think he's a symp then he's a PI yes" I am talking to Shadow. I am explaining that unless he thinks people that have come back as American, Chinese, European etc, are not symps, then they would be PI's. In the last game, one member of the syndicate at level 2 could come back from an investigation as a member of town, that is true, which is why people can only ever be PI in this game, unless you know more about them from some other method.

All the scum have a nationality too they are blank syndicate vs blank spy i think korvs find only turned up the nationality not whether they were spy or syndicate. so just because they have a nationality does not mean they are not scum. Everyone has a nationality.

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This post has been edited by Spite: 21 May 2010 - 07:01 AM

[Galain]

 Spite, on 21 May 2010 - 07:00 AM, said:

 Galain, on 21 May 2010 - 06:47 AM, said:

 Liosan, on 21 May 2010 - 04:29 AM, said:

 Galain, on 21 May 2010 - 03:55 AM, said:

Wow! I was just about to start composing my post about my thoughts on whats happened over night and then Shadow does that.

I cannot decide if you are amazingly stupid, or are scum. Just in case its the latter.
Vote Shadow

You do realise, the only way we win this game is by lynching the Syndicate right? And you are wanting us to lynch one of two PI?

 Galain, on 21 May 2010 - 04:03 AM, said:

 Liosan, on 21 May 2010 - 03:56 AM, said:

How in the world is Kaschan PI?

I didn't say they were, Shadow said he believed Korvalain about the factions then voted accordingly.

 Galain, on 21 May 2010 - 04:22 AM, said:

 Shadow, on 21 May 2010 - 04:15 AM, said:

 Galain, on 21 May 2010 - 04:10 AM, said:

 Shadow, on 21 May 2010 - 03:44 AM, said:

So, the Europeans are still in the lead, huh?

Considering that the Americans have a victory condition to identify other factions, and they've already gotten some hypothetical points from doing it successfully, I'm inclined to believe that Korvalain was not merely guessing when he pronounced Kaschan as being European. And since the Europeans are currently in the lead, whilst I don't have anyone particularly pinging my scum radar at this time (at least not more than my experience tells me is perfectly normal for the average non-scum), I favour the option of voting for the European and hopefully halting that nationality's progress.

Vote Kaschan

Here where you said, that you believed Korvalain he wasn't guessing about the factions and said he was European. So your voting for a member of the town that is in the different faction from you trying to halt that nationalitys progess. Well thats how I read it anyway. Are you saying its something else?

Oh please, Galain, don't try to pretend that you think PI somehow means something other than not-syndicate. Me believing that Kaschan is European has no effect on whether he is syndicate or not. You, on the other hand, seem to be saying otherwise for some reason...

Unless you think he's a symp then he's a PI yes. Someone else has revealed that he's a member of the town (which you have said you believe) and then you have voted accordingly for that person, you have said you are voting for him because he's a member of town, but in a different faction. Not because he's a symp, or syndicate, which in IMO is wrong.

Which one is it? They were PI, you didn't say they were PI, and now they are PI again?

Let me run through it for you. First recall and its stated in the opening post, that its a town vs scum game, nor a mercenary game or anything. Its Town vs Scum. The spies (the factions) are the town, and the syndicate are the scum. If there are people
on the syndicate who come back as members of a town faction, they would be called symps, although there is one exception, noted below.


Shadow came on and said he was voting Kaschan, because Kaschan is European. He knows Kaschan is European because of the reveal of Korvalain yesteday which he accepted and mentioned in his post.

I said he was stupid in doing so and voted for him, saying that Shadow is voting for people he considers PI, after all he is voting them not for because he thinks they are syndicate, nor for being a symp which would be the main reason for voting someone whose faction came back as one of the town factions. Instead he is voting for them for being a member of the town (in the current winning town faction though).

If he made a case that Kaschan is a symp or is scum in some way to explain away the fact he believes Korvalain's reveal, then thats fine. But he didn't. He voted for them, for being a member of town.

I pointed out he was voting for people that are PI in his eyes, i.e he didn't think Kaschan was a symp or anything along those lines, despite having a town faction reveal. And also please note, Silanah was temped to vote for Shadow as well, and refered to Kaschan and Omtose as innos.

The last comment, "Unless you think he's a symp then he's a PI yes" I am talking to Shadow. I am explaining that unless he thinks people that have come back as American, Chinese, European etc, are not symps, then they would be PI's. In the last game, one member of the syndicate at level 2 could come back from an investigation as a member of town, that is true, which is why people can only ever be PI in this game, unless you know more about them from some other method.

All the scum have a nationality too they are blank syndicate vs blank spy i think korvs find only turned up the nationality not whether they were spy or syndicate. so just because they have a nationality does not mean they are not scum. Everyone has a nationality.

edit-added last sentence

Can you point this out in the rules anywhere? My understanding is its a town are the spies and we are vs scum, and the town are the factions (American, Chinese, European etc) and the scum are seperate. If there is a rule that states the scum are members of the factions then as well then I owe a big apology to Shadow.

[Tellan]

 Silanah, on 21 May 2010 - 06:49 AM, said:

 Tellan, on 21 May 2010 - 06:36 AM, said:

Seems the game is finally heating up.

I think Galain is a little confused as to the difference between nationality and faction - I get the impression that someone could still CF as EU syndicate member and without knowing the details of Korv's finds (assuming he told us the truth), we can't be sure if he would be told nationality or faction...

So I can see Galains logic, although I'm not sure about his whole "you're talking about PI, no I am" thing. I doubt he is syndicate though - the only reason syndicate would step up in someone else's defense like that would be if the other person was also syndicate. While that is a possibility, I'm more inclined to believe Korv would likely get faction results back as opposed to nationality results back. They have to learn the exact composition of two spy teams before the end of the game. Knowing syndicate members within a faction too would likely mess with that objective, so it would probably only be the case if someone's role specifically messed with finds - ala the symps from last game.

I think you're confusing faction and nationality as well - by faction do you mean spy/syndicate? I think that's officially termed 'alignment'. If you are the bolded sentence makes no sense, since factions are American, Chinese, EU etc (nationality and faction=same thing)...

I would think that if Korv had found that either of his finds turned up a Syndicate member, rather than simply a nationality as is more likely, as an inno he would have told us rather than minimalise his flow of info (which only hinders town), in the hope of saving his life and PIing himself by outing a scum member (who would then get lynched). As it was, he went down with barely a whimper, information wise. The nationality reveals read more as spite than hoping to share info and save himself.

Ok, I'm using poor wording then - replace faction with alignment then if it makes more sense. What I'm getting at is that even if Kas was the syndicate member who had infiltrated the EU, I think Korv would have gotten back syndicate rather than EU, unless Kas has a role that specifically prevented this from happening. Anything else would severly hamper the American winning condition, or at least the way I read it. Which makes Galain unlikely to be syndicate and logical enough in his accusation of Shadow.

And I agree, Korv did seem to be revealing out of spite more than anything else.

[Spite]

Quote

Morgoth, King of High House Mafia (Norwegian) – Scum
Level 0:
Feud with Dibs (H, Kill): Night only. Limited number of uses (1). When you spot Dibs, you kill him, after telling the whole thread he’s a beardless leprechaun, of course.
Aquevit (N, Find): Night only. Investigation. target a player. If he has alcohol, you will be told.
So Skinny (B, Proof): passive. You have 1 bulletproof.
Level 1:
Drunk Posting (*): upgrade of Aquevit. In addition to the regular effects, Aquevit now also removes all alcohol from the target player.

Note the nationality and the scum label

Quote

The beautiful black haired lady folded the silky paper several times, her hands turning a simple square into a miniature tower. Her Louboutins tapped the mahogany floor with sharp, precise clicks as she walked to the map table.

When she bent over the map table to place the little origami masterpiece square in the centre of Tokyo, Otto knew for certain that if he were standing opposite her, he would glimpse just enough of her cream coloured décolleté to make any man stare, with her maintaining class and style. She was like that. Luckily, he wasn’t standing opposite her. On the other hand, that meant that he now had the perfect opportunity to examine her fabulous behind as it stretched the fabric of her skirt, and how her legs went on for miles… He swallowed. Loudly. She turned, raising an eyebrow and maintained that look for slightly longer than was comfortable. Damn.

“How is the international response to our little plan with the Orpheus project, Otto?”
“Exactly as you had planned, Madame. All the members of the Security Council are sending in what experts they have at hand. None of them believe their regular teams can pull this off, and they all expect mayhem, so they send in people with survival skills and killing instincts. I think Japan will be shocked by the steep incline in dead foreigners, Madame.”
“And our people?”
“With the amount of infiltrators we have in the various intelligence agencies, it was not too difficult to make sure several of our agents are amongst the strike teams, Madame. However, due to the haphazard international response, not all of them have established contact with us or with one another yet.”
“I think a little diversion is in order, then, to buy us time. Instruct a local team to install a bomb in Tokyo Tower, and to blow it up by night fall. Use the internet to contact all newspapers and foreign intelligence services to warn of this disaster a few hours before sun down. I want those strike teams diverted. Make it so, will you, Otto?”

“Yes Madame.”

“Also, I expect my subordinates to be professionals. Next time I catch your eyes wandering, let alone see a thread of drool emerging in the corner of your mouth, I’ll take an eye. Understood?”

He nodded and turned, knees wobbly. What a woman.

This was how it worked in the first game too

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This post has been edited by Spite: 21 May 2010 - 07:12 AM

[Rashan]

 Path-Shaper, on 11 May 2010 - 07:58 PM, said:

If you are a member of the Syndicate (a.k.a. scum), you can only win by achieving a majority. The game ends immediately when the Syndicate has achieved this, or when the last Syndicate member is killed/lynched.

If you are a Spy (a.k.a. town), you can only win if your particular faction (divided by nationality) has the highest number of points the second the last Syndicate member is taken out of the game.


e. Info is the description for all abilities that automatically give you information. Info abilities are always Neutral.
f. Find is the description for all abilities that allow a player to gather information about another player. Find abilities are always Neutral.

12) The trait Investigation. Investigations are finds that count towards Victory Conditions that require Investigations. They have no other special function.


25) You may, however, reveal others, including citing their Role PMs. This does not get them mod-killed.

26) When someone else reveals your nationality, your allegiance and/or your Role PM (or a faked copy thereof) you may not confirm that’s you. You may deny it as much as you like, however.

OK, having just read up on the thread, I think this is where people are getting confused:

You have factions, divided by nationality. You have an allegiance to your faction. Scum are made up of people of all nationalities. A Find is different from an investigations (which is what the victory condition difference would be) and both are different from info.

So, unless we know what Korv used, what the ability gave him in return &ct, then we can't really say whether he received nationality (in which case scum is still a possible alignment) or faction, in which case it does, in fact, PI (even though he could still be a symp) Kaschan.

[Galain]

[quote name='Spite' date='21 May 2010 - 02:10 AM' timestamp='1274425858' post='763927']
[quote]Morgoth, King of High House Mafia (Norwegian) – Scum
Level 0:
Feud with Dibs (H, Kill): Night only. Limited number of uses (1). When you spot Dibs, you kill him, after telling the whole thread he’s a beardless leprechaun, of course.
Aquevit (N, Find): Night only. Investigation. target a player. If he has alcohol, you will be told.
So Skinny (B, Proof): passive. You have 1 bulletproof.
Level 1:
Drunk Posting (*): upgrade of Aquevit. In addition to the regular effects, Aquevit now also removes all alcohol from the target player.
[/quote]

Note the nationality and the scum label

[quote]The beautiful black haired lady folded the silky paper several times, her hands turning a simple square into a miniature tower. Her Louboutins tapped the mahogany floor with sharp, precise clicks as she walked to the map table.

When she bent over the map table to place the little origami masterpiece square in the centre of Tokyo, Otto knew for certain that if he were standing opposite her, he would glimpse just enough of her cream coloured décolleté to make any man stare, with her maintaining class and style. She was like that. Luckily, he wasn’t standing opposite her. On the other hand, that meant that he now had the perfect opportunity to examine her fabulous behind as it stretched the fabric of her skirt, and how her legs went on for miles… He swallowed. Loudly. She turned, raising an eyebrow and maintained that look for slightly longer than was comfortable. Damn.

“How is the international response to our little plan with the Orpheus project, Otto?”
“Exactly as you had planned, Madame. All the members of the Security Council are sending in what experts they have at hand. None of them believe their regular teams can pull this off, and they all expect mayhem, so they send in people with survival skills and killing instincts. I think Japan will be shocked by the steep incline in dead foreigners, Madame.”
“And our people?”
“With the amount of infiltrators we have in the various intelligence agencies, it was not too difficult to make sure several of our agents are amongst the strike teams, Madame. However, due to the haphazard international response, not all of them have established contact with us or with one another yet.”
“I think a little diversion is in order, then, to buy us time. Instruct a local team to install a bomb in Tokyo Tower, and to blow it up by night fall. Use the internet to contact all newspapers and foreign intelligence services to warn of this disaster a few hours before sun down. I want those strike teams diverted. Make it so, will you, Otto?”

“Yes Madame.”

“Also, I expect my subordinates to be professionals. Next time I catch your eyes wandering, let alone see a thread of drool emerging in the corner of your mouth, I’ll take an eye. Understood?”

He nodded and turned, knees wobbly. What a woman.

[/quote]

This was how it worked in the first game too

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[/quote]

Well fuck. I had to go look it up, and you are quite correct. From the last game the CF's were like this with nationality and alignment:
[D'riss is dead. He was Stephen Churchill, British Syndicate.[/quote]


Shadow + the others: My sincere apologies, you are quite correct and I was completely in the wrong.
Kaschan could still be syndicate or anything else, nationality doesn't mean anything, alignment is the important one. I was under the impression that Nationality = Alignment. My only poor excuse is in the previous game I was a Finder and was getting Alignment infomation as well and thought it was always like that and I have been very confused.

Remove Vote

[Silanah]

Guess it's a bit of deadtime.

[Rashan]

@Silanah - the board went down, so presumably some people left and will check back after a while, or it took up the last of their free time.

@Galain - good that you've seen the light...which is also a convenient out for you after the attention (yeah, I know, you can't win, lol).

[Tellan]

Did the forum die for anyone else?

[Path-Shaper]

Forum back online, woot!!

I'll work through the PMs, then have a shower, then read the thread, then post actions and do a vote count. I have no clue how long the forum was unstable, but an extension seems possible

We will start the weekend break after this day.
Please let me know in a SEPERATE pm if you are available for play on monday, or want the weekend break extended through whatever festivity it is in your country.

[Rashan]

The forum was down for approximately two hours, just after Galain's post until just before mine.

[Galain]

 Rashan, on 21 May 2010 - 09:29 AM, said:

@Silanah - the board went down, so presumably some people left and will check back after a while, or it took up the last of their free time.

@Galain - good that you've seen the light...which is also a convenient out for you after the attention (yeah, I know, you can't win, lol).

Yeah well, I hope what I've said makes sense, if you read it from nationality = alignment point of view I had at the time. There's been several people pick up what I was refering to I think. Not much else I can do about it. My fault and my bad.

[Olar Ethil]

So is the game frozen now? or are we waiting till day ends?

[Path-Shaper]

 Olar Ethil, on 21 May 2010 - 06:17 PM, said:

So is the game frozen now? or are we waiting till day ends?

It will be locked now. We restart on monday morning (around 10.30 CET) with 12 hours on the clock to make up for all the chaos of today.
Sorry about my lack of presence - was quite busy and couldn't log on.
You can PM me with questions & thoughts, day actions for day 3, night actions for night 3.
Lover connections may continue, as well.

- T.

[Rashan]

Game is back on?

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 3. 63 hours and 57 minutes since time out
I mean, 12 hours left.
Game is on again.

21 Players still alive: D'riss, Eloth, Fener, Galain, Galayn Lord, Gamelon, Hood's Path, Kaschan, Liosan, Meanas, Mockra, Olar Ethil, Omtose, Rashan, Ruse, Serc, Shadow, Sheltatha Lore, Silanah, Spite, Tellan

11 votes to lynch, 11 votes to go to night.

3 Votes for Galain ( Shadow, Gamelon, Liosan )
1 Vote for Rashan ( Meanas )

Players not voted: D'riss, Eloth, Fener, Galain, Galayn Lord, Hood's Path, Kaschan, Mockra, Olar Ethil, Omtose, Rashan, Ruse, Serc, Sheltatha Lore, Silanah, Spite, Tellan

[Rashan]

Anyone else around, then?

[Silanah]

Yay, game is back on.
I'm around.