So these two consecutive posts from Kaschan, spaced 35 minutes apart, seem odd to me:
Kaschan, on 19 May 2010 - 12:02 PM, said:
32 posts left.
That was a pretty good catch by Emurlahn. I could go with that, but right now I really like my vote on Mockra. I'll be around in a few hours to expand on that, but I have work to do now. Until then.
Edit - 32 posts not 33 - damn you PS.
Kaschan, on 19 May 2010 - 12:37 PM, said:
Are you guys being serious?
Galain clearly stated in his first post - there were symps, then says A SYNDICATE MEMBER (Bwgan as the temptress) CFed as A SPY! - then states - he doesnt recall a SYNDICATE MEMBER CFing as A SPY!
Galain said:
Last game there was definitly proper symps in the game. One of the people who CFed as being French, as someone correctly pointed out as Bwgan/The Temptress, they were working for the scum. So we should expect the same in this game.
Galain said:
I don't recall any syndicate members appearing as Spies upon CF,
In fact - this might be the extra alt. A couple of members in the same alt would do this as well.
The fact that neither Eloth or Silanah see this is quite curious. Quite.
In between are 7 posts, mostly from Driss:
D, on 19 May 2010 - 12:10 PM, said:
Eloth, on 19 May 2010 - 11:48 AM, said:
Im still not clear on what these scenes are meant to be.
Are they clues?
I understand that you are supposed to look out for traits that align with your own.
But i dont see what us dissecting the scene will accomplish since we will never know who they are referring to unless it is about yourself.
It is a good idea in that we may identify the syndicate agents by their actions within the scenes and if a player recognises the person from a scene where they targetted that person they will know who is the syndicate agent. Also it will help us keep track of the number of players having actions. Once the number of players goes down and we have more scenes to look at if people divulge suspicions of who is in which scene it will make the our job much easier. By the end of the last game we had put almost everyone playing against a person in a scene and it was a simple matter of going through those left to discover the identity of the syndicate. This time we are slightly hampered by the fact we cannot reveal, but a few factions clearly have the abiltiy to form off thread comms and people can reveal through proxy which is not against the rules.
D, on 19 May 2010 - 12:29 PM, said:
In the first quote galain mentions how in the last game there were symps as syndicate members appeared with a nationality. In the second quote Galain claims not to remember if syndicate members appeared as spies. It is fairly ambigious as in his second statement you could argue that a syndicate member appearing as a spy is the definition of symp which he had made a point of addressing in post one. On the other hand the first post may simply refer to nationality and not spy or syndicate.
Lets look at bwgan from the last game then as this is the player he actively mentions in his first post.
First her abilities which from level 0 show she is immune to finds but a cf check might aid us.
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Isabelle Paix – Infiltrator (French) -- Syndicate
Level 0:
Spy in the Web: passive. knows the identity of all syndicate players, and their code-names.
Infiltrated: passive. comes up as a spy on finds
Level 1:
Seductress: night only . Limited number of uses (1). Establish a lover link with a player of your choice (this may be another syndicate player or a spy). You do this by sending a PM containing the players name to the mods, they will inform your target and then get back to you. From there on, you can send each other messages directly, CCing H&M.
Level 2:
Inside Information: day only: send a PM from a lover you have to the Mastermind. Useable any number of times per day, but precludes using other day abilities.
Level 3:
Menage-a-trois: night only. Limited number of uses (1). establish a lover link with a second player of your choice.
Level 4:
Secrets betrayed: Limited number of uses (1). When you receive this ability, send the name of a single player you have a lover relationship with to the mods. You learn all of his abilities and may broadcast them to another player of your choice (does not have to be a lover or syndicate player) upon receiving this ability. This counts as your night/ day action for this phase.
Level 5:
Wine in front of me: Day only: kill one of your lovers.
Path-Shaper, on 25 September 2009 - 11:58 AM, said:
"Presidente, we have received a tip-off of a spy operating on our grounds. We have detained her, but rumors on the street are strong of her actually being in league with your... off-shore investments. What do you want us to do?"
"Did you interrogate her?"
"We did, Presidente."
"And?"
"She denies all involvement with your international backers."
"She looks like Greta Garbo..." Hugo Gremio mused, chewing on the tip of his moustacho.
he lit a cigar. "If the rumors are true, I am sure a lapse would be forgiven in these times of crisis, wouldn't you agree? Besides, it is not like my friends in the world informed me of her presence. So, because she is a trespassing spy, and because I hate that thirties-look, let's make an example of her. Kill her."
Meanas is dead. She was Isabelle Paix, a French spy.
It is now night.
Interestingly meanas appeared as a french spy upon death even though the ability doesnt seem to cover that. So although galain recalled that bwgan was a symp and remembered they appeared in the previous game he does seem to forget that in his second post.
D, on 19 May 2010 - 12:33 PM, said:
Scratch that sorry, Galain says someone else mentioned bwgan. When first reading through it after emurhlan made the link i had though that he had brought her role up himself.
D, on 19 May 2010 - 12:35 PM, said:
Path-Shaper, on 19 May 2010 - 12:31 PM, said:
^^^^
CF = coroner finder = find.
In my book, that is....
By that token of information then we will most certainly have syndicate members cf as spies int his game, unless our coroner finder has five levels too...
Kaschan were deflecting with his about-face, stampy-feet maneuver, I'd say it would have been away from Driss, though I can't see why.
That last Driss post is the most suspicious of the 4, as how can anybody be
certain of what abilities a syndicate has unless... But it's more of a semantic issue, really, as I agree with him that it is
highly likely that at least one syndicate member will CF as a spy considering two had the ability last game. Plus, that post was made only 2 minutes before Kaschan's second post, so it was most-likely a cross-post.
Another interesting fact is that once Kaschan starts abusing his shift-key privileges, Driss stops posting. It seems to me that all signs point to Kaschan covering for Driss, but the content's not there. I'm wondering if anyone else sees anything in those posts or if it's all coincidence.
I guess Kaschan's second post could have just been a reaction to Eloth's post:
Eloth, on 19 May 2010 - 12:17 PM, said:
Im dont get what ehmurlan has supposedly discovered.
seems like galain in saying a similar thing.
But it seems like quite the overreaction. Our spelling-challenged friend was just looking for more explanation about what was going on.
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