[Path-Shaper]

Poor Ment, had to laugh at this:

Alkend, on 24 April 2010 - 02:56 AM, said:

i'm tempted to say Korbas, tbh.

also, he was Liu Bei. I think we got an inherited kill after all.

Alkend, on 24 April 2010 - 02:58 AM, said:

sorry, not Korbas, Karosis. Stupid friggin K names....

[Peanutbutta]

Path-Shaper, on 24 April 2010 - 02:50 AM, said:

D'rek, here, gonna resolve.

edit: well nvm that seems PB did resolve. I may have to edit the scenes, though. (Ping Le? Really? That is an awful, awful name. No offense. The writing is great, but I can't have Yuan Shao not recognizing the Imperial Uncle himself (or murdering him himself!), that would be outrageously strange.)

If you wanted something specific written, you should have written it in advance. I was in a rush, I already said I couldn't help this weekend and yet, here I am checking and players are waiting for half a day for someone to resolve. (This happened the last time I took a trip, too. I was just assisting the main moderator and then he disappeared and I had to take over.)

I don't know Chinese names or culture. You said Liu Bei was clearly the main scum and yet the 'characters' don't know it's Liu Bei, so I just figured maybe he was in disguise. I picked 'Ping' cuz that's what Mulan calls herself in the eponymous movie. I picked Le for no reason whatsoever, it sounded "Chinesey." It was intended to be a silly name, but whatever; I will handle moderating mechanics and my typical commentary. I won't write scenes.

This post has been edited by Peanutbutta: 24 April 2010 - 05:12 AM

[Obdigore]

1/2, giggety.

I discounted Eloth as a symp because I have never played a game that 1 guard could block 2 killers before. I was thinking that the other team was 1kill/1guard plus symps, and if we killed the killer it was all down to lynches. Either way the 'neutralize' plan wouldn't have mattered because you made a change (probably the correct one)... I hope they nail korbas to the wall, but I am guessing Gamelon is going to be the next strung up.

[Peanutbutta]

And it's the correct move to lynch Gamelon, for multiple reasons.

1) He's likely a symp, which means you get the D-Day pushed back (and right now the players have the luxury of affording a mistaken lynch, so this is ok to risk if he were actually inno).
2) He could be the other scum leader, without a killing power.
3) He could be a symp that inherits the killer role.

In any event, there's no particular reason to not lynch Gamelon.

[Path-Shaper]

Hood, on 24 April 2010 - 05:10 AM, said:

Now the key is to push at some people and see where Gamelon leaps. Most people aren't going to trust him now and he knows it, so he'll probably be more careful than he would have been otherwise, but he still might help make it more obvious who has inherited the kill.

PROV

Find on Tulas Shorn tonight please.

If lynched, find on Korbas.

Hood, on 24 April 2010 - 05:19 AM, said:

I hope I've done a good job posing as clueless inno - depending what happens, I'm thinking I'll risk dodging a NK tonight and gather more info before I reveal.

I think I'll try to come up with some kind of case on Korv, since I think he's got the evil eye.

Galain, on 24 April 2010 - 06:47 AM, said:

Herro Path-Laper.

Who are the other scum-diggity?

I say:

Gamelon, who is nearly undeniably scummy at this point. Or, has had such a terribly bad game that it doesn't make a difference.

Probably Karat, the supposed other block by Gamelon. Better to choose someone you know is on your team than another to "supposedly" block as Gamelon is saying he has.

Possibly Eloth, but he had a point, albeit a point that would allow scum and symps to continue to fuck around, and that's always bad news.

Maybe D'riss, who I can only assume is Edrigan due to the weird posts and trying to acclimate himself to Malazan Mafia.

I like vodka, how 'bout you?

Hood, on 24 April 2010 - 09:30 AM, said:

Ok, case on Korv is out there. What I will now wait for is Gamelon's reaction. If he latches onto Korv as a way out of being lynched, I'll know that Korv is probably not a killer.

If Gam poo poos it, or ignores it, that'll help confirm my suspicions.

Hood, on 24 April 2010 - 11:41 AM, said:

Of course, I may just be outsmarting myself. A smart Gam might go for Korv in order to reverse psychology us.

Except he shoudln't be expecting that someone knows he's a symp for certain, so maybe I shouldn't be worried about that.

Right now the only thing I can really share with people if I revealed is that Gam is a symp and not the kill inheritor. And sharing who is NOT a symp may narrow the field a little, but it also would confirm to scum who is NOT their symp so they won't make NK mistakes.

I think that's why I need to push my luck farther and try to get more information before revealing.

[Path-Shaper]

Korbas, on 24 April 2010 - 04:28 PM, said:

karosis for now

Okay

Tulas Shorn, on 24 April 2010 - 04:58 PM, said:

So Morgy is my new leader... Muhahahahahahahhahahaahhahahahahahhahaahh....cough...mUhahhahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahhaha

[Path-Shaper]

Peanutbutta, on 24 April 2010 - 05:10 AM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 24 April 2010 - 02:50 AM, said:

D'rek, here, gonna resolve.

edit: well nvm that seems PB did resolve. I may have to edit the scenes, though. (Ping Le? Really? That is an awful, awful name. No offense. The writing is great, but I can't have Yuan Shao not recognizing the Imperial Uncle himself (or murdering him himself!), that would be outrageously strange.)

If you wanted something specific written, you should have written it in advance. I was in a rush, I already said I couldn't help this weekend and yet, here I am checking and players are waiting for half a day for someone to resolve. (This happened the last time I took a trip, too. I was just assisting the main moderator and then he disappeared and I had to take over.)

I don't know Chinese names or culture. You said Liu Bei was clearly the main scum and yet the 'characters' don't know it's Liu Bei, so I just figured maybe he was in disguise. I picked 'Ping' cuz that's what Mulan calls herself in the eponymous movie. I picked Le for no reason whatsoever, it sounded "Chinesey." It was intended to be a silly name, but whatever; I will handle moderating mechanics and my typical commentary. I won't write scenes.

If you're in a rush, then just do the resolution. Scenes are not required and I'll always get around to writing them up when I get back if there's a need for them. Alternatively, if you aren't in a rush and want to write some, go for it, but and I applaud your initiative.

[Path-Shaper]

Korbas, on 25 April 2010 - 08:40 PM, said:

actually, I'd rather take out Karatallid I think.

if MTS is mod-kill or lynched; Karosis.

[Path-Shaper]

Since Gamelon will probably get lynched fairly easily today anyways, let the Mafia Manager timer stay in Night 5 until after they lynch and then it'll be back in sync for day 6.

[Jump Around]

Wow, GK is taking Edrigan's joke way too seriously. If I was playing that would ping all sorts of alarms

[Path-Shaper]

Poor dkt

Gamelon, on 26 April 2010 - 07:06 AM, said:

you could have told me i would get the name of the other leader you chop!!!

would not have sold myself down the river to try and save Spite.

excellent

Path-Shaper, on 26 April 2010 - 02:56 PM, said:

Well, you made a decision based upon the information you had and now you're paying a price for it

Shin's weighing out when he should reveal.

Hood, on 26 April 2010 - 12:49 PM, said:

Further thoughts -


Man, some of the stuff coming from Eloth and D'riss make me wonder if I should be checking them for sympdom. D'riss has been a spaz all game, and his prodding of Eloth a moment ago is odd.

I'm wondering if I am up for NK. With accusations of my possible scumminess, that might help keep me around. If Korv is scum, he might not kill me because it would look suspicious. If Korv isn't scum, the killer might keep me around thinking I'll just continue pushing at Korv.

What I need more than anything is a perfect find pick for tonight. If I can find the other damn symp (if there is one), I can use that to possibly find the killer. Problem with knowing Gam is a symp is, EVERYONE knows he's a symp, so I can't glean anything from him at this point. The only thing I know for sure is he isn't teh new killer. I need a "clean" symp.

Basically I gotta risk an NK tonight -revealing would do nothing at all at this point since Gam is going to die regardless. All I could do is point out to the scum who ISNT their symp before dying.

Of course, I do the same kind of things Shin does... "Am I up for a kill? Should I wait to reveal until I have enough information?" In this case, he's definitely fine, Korbas has no interest in HP whatsoever, and a find tonight will find the last symp in the game. That would be a good point to reveal, assuming that you are confident that either Omtose or myself (Kesso) were a symp, because your power is now pointless and you may as well CI yourself.

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 26 April 2010 - 03:10 PM

[Path-Shaper]

Looks like alt's time may come at last... if this action holds, of course.

Korbas, on 26 April 2010 - 05:55 PM, said:

Karosis, though I might change to Galain..

I'm not able to post right now but I need to do something soon. I hadn't realised how neutral I've been until I did a quick re-read. Time to ruffle some feathers I think.

[Path-Shaper]

Probably a good time to start looking for MotM candidates. Edrigan, alt146, and Shinrei are the ones I think that are having the best game.

Edrigan (D'riss) has made a great name for himself with a vocal personality. He's parlaying his perceived "newness" to the game into lynch capital... players don't want to get rid of him! It would be downright dangerous if he were scum, but he's been fronting a lot of solid logic about player interaction, including my mysterious missing post (I think he was the first to correctly deduce what truly happened). His weakness has been a reliance on statistics as facts. Statistics are an accumulation of facts and data points, but they tell you very little about the game you are CURRENTLY playing.

alt146 (Karosis) is mostly having a game similar to Edrigan, but he's doing it in a much more dangerous fashion. He's playing a highly neutral role, one that has gotten his name brought up for lynches and kills on more than one occasion. He has vocally supported sound theories (the keep-spite-alive-for-one-day theory, which was mathematically prudent to try). I think it was a bit weak of him to not want to vote off Gamelon yesterday when it clearly extended the life of the game for town.

Shinrei deserves credit for being a town power role and getting away with it for a long time. He has correctly identified the entire remaining scum team, although he won't be able to see Korbas for a scum, but he should be able to use the information he knows about Tulas Shorn to try and help narrow the suspect pool down dramatically. Hard to see town losing one Shin gives the information he has out.

[Path-Shaper]

Korbas, on 27 April 2010 - 12:25 AM, said:

Well, having read through Galain I worried for a moment we had another killer-role in the game. Man, had I been inno I would've pounced on his playing style days ago.

He could technically be a symp, but so could anyone and if he is he's done such a poor job he deserves the axe.

[Path-Shaper]

Shin's plan to see who Tulas is going to build a case upon will sort of backfire.

Tulas Shorn, on 27 April 2010 - 02:09 AM, said:

Ok so my plan is now to build a wall of text case against HP... He was choosen at random but should have a good level of scummyness out there. Then I will allow myself to be convinced to vote for Galain or Korv. Which ever is most likely to be lynched. It has been a while since I have created a wall of text case. Several players are trying to build some but they all have a way to go. My only problem is a lack of time.

As long as Morgy isn't under any heat and cases and votes are on other players then I figure our shot at winning is 40%.

2 of 10 players remaining = 20%
Parania of remaining players = 10%
Shiftyness of Me and Morgy = 10%

Luckily I don't feel a moronic episode coming on so no mistakes and we should be good. I have an inclining that morgy knows who I am and that I am his symp... Untill the bastard nk's me. If that happens I will call him up and yell at him.

Very lucky pick by Vengey, since Shin's case will now appear to be WIFOM, but ultimately, I suspect Shin will still win the argument since he has a reveal and a name to back it up.

But, still a good pull by Vengey; the numbers just aren't with the scum at this point. Korbas is going to have to pull this one off by himself and it's highly unlikely. Of the 8 players left (after Shin and Vengey presumably die), several can be put as PI simply by revealing their names (and eliminating the likely symp roles).

[Path-Shaper]

Not sure I agree with Shin siding up with Korbas right now. He may be trying to see if Tulas will join on or not, since he'll be on all night, but he has to be careful to get in speed lynch range otherwise he may be in trouble of getting NKd with no lynch to show for it.

[Path-Shaper]

Hood, on 27 April 2010 - 04:29 AM, said:

Just in case something wild goes down and I'm not online, I will put a provisional in.

Find on Korbas.

[Path-Shaper]

HD's willing to take one for the team... be careful though, math gets tricky near the end.

Galain, on 27 April 2010 - 04:26 AM, said:

So, I'm kind of inviting this lynch.

I've done just enough to make voting for me at least not simple, hopefully. (Or perhaps the exact opposite, we'll see).

But there is no DOUBT that my CF will loudly proclaim RI. Thus, I'm hoping a symp or two and maybe the big bad guy left will jump on and be outed by voting for me. Thus, a much stronger position for town to proceed than it is as of now, I think.

We'll find out.

[Path-Shaper]

Looks like I was right about Shin... he's trying to bait Vengey.

Hood, on 27 April 2010 - 07:01 AM, said:

Come online Tulas, you lazy git. I wanna see which way you jump.

[Path-Shaper]

Tapper here, doing some composition on a scene for those in a hurry.

Yuan Shao was restless in his fear of assassins. He assembled the court eunuchs, going once more over all the protective measures they had taken, and yet, while he was unable to find any fault in their preparations, he knew once more that sleep would elude him.
All exits were barred, the various guards were in place, the city was policed by regiments of loyal troops, and the cavalry patrolled the country. No army could storm the city by surprise, but with each passing day, he lost more of the officer corps and the officials gathered in the grand hall where they tried to root out the traitors in their midst. Already, the price paid for his security was high, and while he had sycophants aplenty, skillful men were hard to come by.
"How, oh Heavens, am I going to rule this country with no men of capacity to carry my edicts to the four corners of the empire?" he muttered. "How, dear gods, can I defend the lands of the Emperor against those who wish it harm? How, demons of the underworld, can I possibly prevent another conspiracy against me coming from those I elevate to grand position? Will I never be free from the ambitions of the others?"

His litany was interrupted by a captain of the guard, who reported that Xu You, one of the officials of the Ministry of Revenue, charged with the taxation of the Imperial Provinces, was killed by his colleagues on suspicion of treason. Yuan Shao turned away, looking at the flight of the swallows from the Imperial Balcony, and took a moment to compose himself.

Korvalain (Yellow) is dead. He was Xu You, an official in the Ministry of Revenue.