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Who/What is Silk?

#1 User is offline   Evilcabell 

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Posted 25 March 2010 - 06:55 PM

Hey everybody,
I'm a long time reader but a first time poster. I can't find any posts on this subject, so I hope it's not already been settled or dismissed.

My question is: Who is Silk? Is he someone that we have seen before or was ROTG his first appearance? He seems to have some ties to Light* (his spiel when defending against the fire mages, his unleashing the light warren, his general appearance) but he seems to lack the zealotry, bigotry, and over-confidence that seems so typically Liosan. I wondered if he might be L'oric but I can't remember what happened to L'oric. Then again maybe he is just some random new character who may or may not have been an uber mage from the pre-Lasseen days. Anyone have any thoughts or speculation?

*I'm really sorry that I'm not using the right jargon, but I don't have my books anywhere nearby.
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Posted 25 March 2010 - 07:12 PM

We haven't met him before. It seems Li Heng was traditionally consecrated to Kuruld Liosan, so there is probably some link to the Liosan or Osserc. I think Silk is just a mage /priest of Light, and in the temple/palace? he was capable of tapping more fully into the Kurald Liosan warren. And whilst L'oric may not be quite as openly arrogant as normal Liosan we have met, he certainly isn't modest, just has a bit of a daddy complex.
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Posted 25 March 2010 - 07:19 PM

 Evilcabell, on 25 March 2010 - 06:55 PM, said:

Hey everybody,
I'm a long time reader but a first time poster. I can't find any posts on this subject, so I hope it's not already been settled or dismissed.

My question is: Who is Silk? Is he someone that we have seen before or was ROTG his first appearance? He seems to have some ties to Light* (his spiel when defending against the fire mages, his unleashing the light warren, his general appearance) but he seems to lack the zealotry, bigotry, and over-confidence that seems so typically Liosan. I wondered if he might be L'oric but I can't remember what happened to L'oric. Then again maybe he is just some random new character who may or may not have been an uber mage from the pre-Lasseen days. Anyone have any thoughts or speculation?

*I'm really sorry that I'm not using the right jargon, but I don't have my books anywhere nearby.


Well if you're still partway through reading RotCG then you'll just have to keep reading and figure it yourself. Silk mostly explains himself pretty thoroughly not too long after that event.

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View Postworrywort, on 14 September 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 25 March 2010 - 07:33 PM

Yeah, what he said.
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Posted 21 April 2010 - 02:22 PM

Silk is awesomeness ;o))))
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Posted 21 April 2010 - 02:57 PM

The interesting thing about Silk is that aside from the 'special cases' of Quick Ben (with 12 souls that may or may not all be completely human) and the sacrificial Nameless Ones (who could have been pretty much any race or part thereof) at the prologue in TB, he's the first human we've seen who is a High Mage of an elder warren.

Sure, later on we see Heuk use KG, but Heuk is a High Priest and that's not really the same thing as being a High Mage.

To my vague recall there was nothing to suggest Silk wasn't human (albeit long lived as High Mages are), but i could be wrong on that point.

So, as far as i can tell, Silk is a human Kurald Thyrrlan/Liosan High Mage who has been around for a long long time, possibly back to the human First Empire.

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Posted 22 April 2010 - 03:33 AM

I went on about this once - the way Silk invokes the powerd of KT makes it sound a lot like he's actually a priest in that respect (note he might still have magical ability to human-accessible warrens). He is kind of granted the devastation wrought by KT, he tries to _summon_ the power of Osserc or FL or whatever.

So I think in regards to Elderness he is more in the league of Heuk and Mallick, rather than a whole new phenomenon.
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Posted 22 April 2010 - 07:36 AM

Personally I feel Silk, much like L'oric is a Liosan in disguise. His explanation about how He just used some lingering KT power convienently lieing around sounds very suspicious to me. His outburst before blowing away the rebels sounds very much like something a Liosan might say.
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Posted 23 April 2010 - 06:48 AM

And he apparently uses Timotei and gets all the girls.
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Posted 02 February 2011 - 11:27 PM

 Urizen, on 22 April 2010 - 07:36 AM, said:

Personally I feel Silk, much like L'oric is a Liosan in disguise. His explanation about how He just used some lingering KT power convienently lieing around sounds very suspicious to me. His outburst before blowing away the rebels sounds very much like something a Liosan might say.


If he were Liosan, wouldn't he have been killed by a falling tree branch or something? =P
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Posted 03 February 2011 - 10:21 AM

that only happens to brother Jorude and his crew.. the rest of them seem to actualy be able to do something with themselves aside from comic relief ;o)
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Posted 03 February 2011 - 10:29 AM

L'oric - gets stabbed in the back
Osserc - wets his pants when Edgewalker farts in his direction, has his power siphoned by a warlock and gets repeatedly bitch-slapped by Rake (slightly mitigated by the fact he blows up an Azath)
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Posted 03 February 2011 - 01:34 PM

yeah but still not in same league as Brother Jorude... L'oric needed to be stabbed to exact vengance through Greyfrog....

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Posted 14 July 2011 - 04:32 PM

Where is the bit when Osserc flees Edgewalker or whatever

Anyway I think the Protectress of Li Heng was a TL and Silk simply unleashed the bits of the temple that was left. All this fallen glory and one last hurrah talk from Silk plus the fact that the Protectress was in charge of Li Heng for like a thousand years. It makes sense when you think about it rather than Silk being the Liosan though both are plausible.
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Posted 14 July 2011 - 05:48 PM

 tiam, on 14 July 2011 - 04:32 PM, said:

Where is the bit when Osserc flees Edgewalker or whatever





TCG,I believe. When Kilmandaros recalls one meeting with Osserc.
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Posted 14 July 2011 - 10:13 PM

then why isnt it spoilered if its TCG info ?
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Posted 14 July 2011 - 11:59 PM

For the record I dont think it is. Ive just reread TCG though admittedly may have missed it.
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Posted 15 July 2011 - 03:51 AM

if the scene i'm thinking about is the one we're talking about, then it's in DoD.
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Posted 15 July 2011 - 06:49 PM

Sigh MTS is needed. I have no recollection of that bit.
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Posted 16 July 2011 - 11:53 AM

It's definitely in DoD, not long after Errastas meets up with Kilmandaros and Sechul Lath I believe.
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