[Silencer]

@Apt - seriously? The combat looks completely different! It is atrociously animated, with specific reference to the character's horrible reactions to being hit, looking like Geralt is swinging his sword something retarded, and it's all very action-esque, no 'feel' to it. Like Oblivion. *slash slash slash die*

I'll find a Witcher gameplay vid to compare it for you, if you want...

[Aptorian]

 Gothos, on 21 April 2011 - 06:51 AM, said:

It looks like they did away with timed combo clicks in favour of... I don't know, holding the LMB down? Click and autoattack? Besides that, by the health bars it seems like the balance of damage and health between G and opponents is seriously insane right now.
That's why I hope this is beta.

Yeah. That is probably where you and Silencer and I disagree. I found the "click when the pointer flashes yellow" combat down right boring. Besides potion management and using a power once in a while. There is nothing to do during combat. You're just watching Gerard swinging his sword around a lot. Which, I guess is fine for old school isometric party based RPGs like Baldurs Gate, etc. but I felt that Witchers combat was a lot more personal and it annoyed me that I had such a small involvement in the fighting.

I would welcome a system where you can defend and attack as you wish instead of just having to wait for the combat animations to run through after you click on an enemy.

But this aside. From what I saw in that video it does not look like they have done away with the old combat system. There is still prompts asking you to click at the right point. Gerard is still doing his spining sword style. The only thing I thought looked different was that you seemed to be more up close and personal in the camera angles and had more power control.

 Silencer, on 21 April 2011 - 07:19 AM, said:

@Apt - seriously? The combat looks completely different! It is atrociously animated, with specific reference to the character's horrible reactions to being hit, looking like Geralt is swinging his sword something retarded, and it's all very action-esque, no 'feel' to it. Like Oblivion. *slash slash slash die*

I'll find a Witcher gameplay vid to compare it for you, if you want...

Here's an example of the sword play from W1:

And here's the video you posted: http://au.ign.com/vi...2-video-preview

I do not see the difference in the combat. What I do notice how ever is that the camera is shaking a whole lot with the impacts. I bet they will make this an on/off option to avoid motion sickness for the player. Personally I like it, it makes Geralts style seem less elegant, but it lends more to the feeling of impact and damage.

If you look at the people that Geralt is fighting in the new video a yellow dot appears on the chests of the people he is focusing on. Keep in mind this is probably designed for a console player who can't keep track of the enemies with a mouse cursor, but I am willing to bet that dot is the same function as the first game. It flashes when you can execute a super combo/crit like in the first game.

[Aptorian]

Here's a new combat presentation:



I think it looks good. I'm not sure if it is just the stance or if he has actually become able to block.

[Mentalist]

it's certainly a different look.

the best way to describe the difference b/w the two games, imo is this:

in the original, combat style could be described as "elegant". it apears to be an art moreso than just fighting.

in Witcher 2, combat looks to be much rougher, and Geralt looks to be more savage, but less graceful.

it'll be curious to see if the devs can tell a good enough story to explain the changes.

[Mentalist]

also, question for those who played the Steam version of the Enhanced Edition: does it offer multi-language sound?

[Aptorian]

Just booted it up, in the options you can select subtitles and voice-over in a whole bunch of languages, amongst other Polish, Russian and Czech. I am assuming that "voice-over" means the language the characters speak in. Can't see why they'd remove language packs for the steam edition.

[Mentalist]

well, i figured they might make it region-specific. they did it with S.T.A.L.K.E.R, forcing me to go through much trouble to acquire the Russian-speaking version.

[Aptorian]

Well, in that case maybe your steam version would be region specific as well?

Even if it is, surely the mod community would have made some language addons by now.

[POOPOO MCBUMFACE]

http://www.rockpaper...cher-2-preview/

Getting excited.

[Mentalist]

I came here to post that.
there's another one:
http://www.rockpaper...-the-witcher-2/

this one explains how combat works. it would appear there's a block button now.

edit: there are QTEs now. sigh. well, I won't be getting the game for a year or two anyhow (untill I get a serious hardware upgrade), it's less of a shame.

EDIT: oh, nad just to clarify from before: Enhanced Edition off Steam IS multi-lingual. that's what makes it so damn huge.
AND it incorporated all the saves from my "other" version.

This post has been edited by Mentalist: 30 April 2011 - 12:00 AM

[Sammehmander Rake]

I can count on my hands how long it is till it comes out! starting to get a bit excited now.



I did enjoy combat system in W1 but from what I have seen in W2 I think it looks pretty good and I'll enjoy it no matter what.

[Loki]

Why is it always the way of things here in Aus?

I'm over not having an R rating for videogames.....

[Gothos]

I admit Aussies get the short end of the stick quite a lot gaming-wise.

How CAN you not have an R rating? That's, like, wide eyed stupid.

[Loki]

 Gothos, on 09 May 2011 - 06:18 AM, said:

I admit Aussies get the short end of the stick quite a lot gaming-wise.

How CAN you not have an R rating? That's, like, wide eyed stupid.

Don't you know that videogames are the number one reason for violence in society?



Old conservative people are stupid.

[Gothos]

They're quite the opposite, the #1 reason for apathy and stupidly high expectations of advancement.

So yeah, they are. And I thought WE had retards running the country.

[Silencer]

Every country is run by retards, of one fashion or another. Some are just better/worse than others in certain areas.

And yeah, Australia has the short straw in this aspect - you'd think by now they would realize the simplest solution would be to adopt the pain-free NZ system.

[Sammehmander Rake]

 Loki, on 09 May 2011 - 03:44 AM, said:

Why is it always the way of things here in Aus?

I'm over not having an R rating for videogames.....

this!


we had a petition and everything! I seriously cannot fathom why they refuse R18 games. they think that video games are for small children and no one else? studies have shown that the majority of gamers are males aged at 40 or above.

[Garak]

Anyone read the Witcher books? I saw only two were translated into english and I'm tempted to get them - how good are they?

[Gothos]

Kinda, yes, they made me read books. I'm hardly an objective in the matter, but they're among my very favourites. Great dialogue and characters, not a very original world but it's not what's important. I don't know how the translations work though, personally I wouldn't take it on myself to translate them, it'd be a... daunting task, to capture the atmosphere.

In any case, if you don't mind the word of a zealot, they're great.

[POOPOO MCBUMFACE]

The translation is a... sticking point. The Last Wish collection is very good, occasionally a bit of awkward prose but it's well worth picking up. Blood of Elves (they skipped the apparently amazing Sword of Something short story collection which is vital for understanding the novel series, thanks guys) is... badly done. Really, really badly done. There might have been a good book hidden underneath, but frankly I couldn't even tell, and couldn't work out what was even happening at several given points. Pretty sure they just passed off the translation job to the first janitor that walked past who got a decent grade in high school English. Pass.