[Galayn Lord]

ok so let me get this straight.
So Anthras lies about being inquisition to save his own ass?

I suppose it sort of makes sense as he cant very well fake reveal as anything else now can he?
But why fake reveal at all?
The only thing that makes sense is if he actually was just doing exactly what he said he was.
Which is trying to stir up things in order to make the DW and NW slip up. At least i hope he was or his play was bad and rather unlike D'rek.

I assume that the inquisition let the Lynch go through because he was lying...plain and simple
They probably thought he was covering something up yet didn't know what, so just decided to get rid of him.
I know i would...
and him being uninitiated doesn't mess with any balance so no harm in being careful i suppose.




edit - sentence structure made no sense...

This post has been edited by Galayn Lord: 23 March 2010 - 08:02 AM

[Galayn Lord]

aah shit forgot its night.

Suppose i should not speculate any further till day...meh

[Ruse]

Damn, wasnt expecting that.

[Galayn Lord]

Ruse, on 23 March 2010 - 11:24 AM, said:

Damn, wasnt expecting that.

what where you expecting?

[Ruse]

Not an RI, given the apparent lack of knowledge of the RI PM and the desperate reveal

[Galayn Lord]

Looks to me like he tried to force some mistakes out of Roled/watch people by discussing inno mechanics. Kind of risky.

Not too sure it worked but worth another look at the interaction he had i suppose.

[Ruse]

D, on 22 March 2010 - 02:18 PM, said:

Anthras, on 22 March 2010 - 02:11 PM, said:

D, on 22 March 2010 - 02:07 PM, said:

Anthras, on 22 March 2010 - 02:03 PM, said:

So how does that show I'm roled, serc?

You said 'bet ya that's an RI'. Bet ya. If you were an RI that statement wouldn't make sense, since you'd know what RIs are called.

And thus we know that you *aren't* an RI because if *you* were an RI you'd know that RI's know nothing of these "Uninitiated Others". All we know are that we are 'RI'.

Do we? Interesting. Then I don't know how I knew the term 'Uninitiated Other' existed before reading it a little while ago.

Well this is one thing that stood out to me yesterday, while i can see that he could have been being sarcastic it strikes me as him trying not to say anything which might be false and get jumped on, so D'riss is definitely one of my suspects for starting as roled

[Ruse]

The only other thing that really stood out to me yesterday was Shadows first comment on the matter, something like
"hooo boy, glad i wasnt the only one left slackjawed by Anthras' comment"
Now to me this just screams of somebody who realises what he should probably say if he's innocent, but its probably not really substantial enough to base a case on.

[Path-Shaper]

quick times night resolution:

it was a long night, and one filled with epic battles and special effects. the ending, however, was shocking

Eloth (HoosierDaddy) is dead. He was Edgar, Level 2 Inquisitioner

It is now Day 5, 24 h left.

10 people are still alive, takes 6 votes to lynch or 5 to go to night
-ment

[Galayn Lord]

Inquisitor dead...well shit
Level 2 aswell...not sure if that is meant to help at all.

Only one death is however interesting, it was looking like every night the kills were getting more with 0, then 1 then 2 kills. as the nights progressed!
I dont see why the Watch would not try and kill every night?

[Galayn Lord]

Ruse, on 23 March 2010 - 01:28 PM, said:

D, on 22 March 2010 - 02:18 PM, said:

Anthras, on 22 March 2010 - 02:11 PM, said:

D, on 22 March 2010 - 02:07 PM, said:

Anthras, on 22 March 2010 - 02:03 PM, said:

So how does that show I'm roled, serc?

You said 'bet ya that's an RI'. Bet ya. If you were an RI that statement wouldn't make sense, since you'd know what RIs are called.

And thus we know that you *aren't* an RI because if *you* were an RI you'd know that RI's know nothing of these "Uninitiated Others". All we know are that we are 'RI'.

Do we? Interesting. Then I don't know how I knew the term 'Uninitiated Other' existed before reading it a little while ago.

Well this is one thing that stood out to me yesterday, while i can see that he could have been being sarcastic it strikes me as him trying not to say anything which might be false and get jumped on, so D'riss is definitely one of my suspects for starting as roled

My memory is hazy but hasnt Uninitiated Other come up before that? or am i getting mixed up?

[Ruse]

i cant remember, i would have thought it had but i dont have time to check all 20 odd pages for it right now

On the kill thing, it is looking like its possibly 1 killer per watch and theyve been getting guarded / healed.

[Shadow]

Mockra was a level 6 Uninitiated Other, so we've learned that D'rek/Anthras was RI and either intentionally or otherwise got herself lynched. It also seems to indicate that the Inquisition don't know the role of the lynchee, otherwise I can't imagine a reason they'd have let her get lynched.

So Eloth was an Inquisitor... may be worth looking over any suspects he had.

[Galayn Lord]

Ruse, on 23 March 2010 - 02:44 PM, said:

On the kill thing, it is looking like its possibly 1 killer per watch and theyve been getting guarded / healed.

well thats obvious...something has stopped a kill. Or the killer opted not to kill which i would find weird.
Im just wondering what might have happened?

Perhaps its not as easy as we thought to kill, maybe its a once every 2 night type of deal?
Lot less cut and dry than a guard or heal i would think with this type of game.
Or am i looking to much into it?

i suppose i am....meh

[Ruse]

im still going to stick with my theory from the first day, that the first night recruits were likely killers. I think the 0,1,2,1 thing hints at it being a kill every night rather than every other night

[Galayn Lord]

Shadow, on 23 March 2010 - 03:11 PM, said:

It also seems to indicate that the Inquisition don't know the role of the lynchee, otherwise I can't imagine a reason they'd have let her get lynched.

Only thing i can think of is because he fake revealed as one of them...

[Serc]

Osseric, on 22 March 2010 - 07:55 PM, said:

Gamelon, on 22 March 2010 - 07:48 PM, said:

I think that his team might have taken one look at how quickly the votes piled up on him and decided not to defend or vote. Anyone who defends him is setting themselves up to either be night killed by the other watch or be lynched later on in the game.

Yeah, that's a possibility as well.

If what Fener says is true, and Inquisitors get the role before deciding, and what Anthras says is True, he has no allegience, then an Anthras lynch will likely yield another non death.

That is assuming that they are both telling the truth, which, especially regarding Fener, is a slim chance at best.

This really stood out for me yesterday - it's at the point the Anthras was still claiming to be an RI. Now I don't know why Anthras said what she did, and I dont want this to wander off into PM discussion, but there is one specific thing that she said that any RI would have seen as an outright lie.

Osseric does cover his back a little with his last line, but the fact that he is even considering that Anthras might be telling the truth indicates pretty heavily that he also started off as roled.

I'm hesitant to just drop down a vote again like I did yesterday, seeing that yesterday went pretty badly.

[Shadow]

Right, but why would Inquisition let D'rek go down if they saw she was RI? It was pretty clear that D'rek was trying to draw night actions, probably to save the inquisition. If the Inquisition knew she was RI, they would have let that plan go, IMO. Only reasonable answer is that they didn't know and thus, were trying to expose her as a fraud.

[Serc]

Galayn Lord, on 23 March 2010 - 03:32 PM, said:

Shadow, on 23 March 2010 - 03:11 PM, said:

It also seems to indicate that the Inquisition don't know the role of the lynchee, otherwise I can't imagine a reason they'd have let her get lynched.

Only thing i can think of is because he fake revealed as one of them...

That still indicates that they dont get to put down some kind of blanket call at the beginning of the day, unless they can somehow choose to let make an exception to that rule. It's pretty worrying though. If the inquisition don't get some kind of CF info, they're making as much of a guess as the rest of us. If Anthras had been a legitimately caught-out Day Watch starting player they might have let it go through and almost ended the game.

[Galayn Lord]

well...getting kicked outa the office see you chaps tomorrow