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Mafia 59:Night Watch

#621 User is offline   Anthras 

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Posted 22 March 2010 - 08:53 PM

View PostGamelon, on 22 March 2010 - 08:35 PM, said:

Anthras my dear dear friend. The reason I don't have to explain my vote on you is that I have been pushing for your lynch for two days. At this point I have nothing left to say about you. To me the only real question is who are you a recruiter for and if the inquisition wants you dead. To reveal as inquisition at l-1 is the hight of hilarity. If there was a shread of doubt about you possibly being a member of the inquisition, claiming to be one removed it. I suspect that an inquisition member would just let his lynch go through and not worry both with a l-1 reveal. You sir a worried about getting lynched. An inquisition member wouldn't be.

+ rep for the attempt. Pathetic though it was.


Editted to add worry


Oh really Gam. And you have, what, 2 posts supporting this? Why no mention of pursuing your vendetta when you voted then? That at least would've been something instead of just an empty vote with no motivations revealed (because really you were just acting impulsively to jump on that, eh).

Pointless to claim this, of course, cause there's no way to prove it but I was planning to reveal when I got home in the afternoon and had some targets to point out like you regardless of whether I was at L-1 or L-6. (Okay not really, if it was L-6 I wouldn't have but you get the point). Just happened to turn out that you fine folks decided to drop 6 votes on me in a few hours, with over a dozen-and-a-half hours left in the day, too. Now *that's* the height of suspicous.

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Posted 22 March 2010 - 08:55 PM

Yes, and that's why I haven't lynched you outright. Let's face it... if you really are a member of the DW, unless there's some kind of blanket provisional in from the Inquisition, you are going to get lynched. If you were DW, the smarter move would have been to just be quiet and hope you aren't lynched off.

That's why I am on the fence. I want to believe that you're just human and made a terminology mistake, but I'm still suspicious and at L-1, let's face it, you're going to get lynched at some point. Whether it's right now or 7 hours from now, it will almost certainly happen.

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Posted 22 March 2010 - 08:58 PM

View PostAnthras, on 22 March 2010 - 08:13 PM, said:

Well anyways, this has been a fun few hours of "spot the bullshit", but now that I'm at L-2 and a few folks have checked in it's time for part 2. Lynch me if you like but it won't help you ("you" being the RIs). If I died it'd come up saying I'm a Dark Other. What it wouldn't tell you is that I'm not part of the Day Watch.

I'm Witieslav, a Dark Other, Vampire and member of the Inquisition.

I don't know what it says in your RI pms nor much care. The point was to draw out some flak and see who the opportunistic watch-members were who would jump on board. Now feel free to analyze it yourself and draw your own conclusions, but the two I'm fingering are D'riss and Gamelon.

D'riss is Mr. Bullshit, quick to jump onto the single vote previously on me hoping to easily build it into a speed lynch and get to another night with ease. He pretends to lament that we double-speed-lynched Fener but he's really quite pleased about it. Initially he was against a Mockra lynch because there was a better one on Fener going, then later he turns around and decides a Mockra lynch is okay when it seems there's enough people to accomplish it. Though my absolute favourite is just last page at the start of this ruse of mine when he says " Could be he's a Day Watch starter, but it's a better chance he's Night Watch. " -- How on earth D'riss ever managed to think that was a} logical in any sense, and b} had any basis for being true other than his own secret knowledge is beyond me. Especially when 2 Night Watchers have already died so there'd have been a much, much better chance of me being Day watch if either of the two.

Ok, there's a lot of speculation here as to my motives and really very little evidence that I actually think what you say. Why am I pleased that we speed lynched Fener twice? Where do you get that out of my posts? As for Mockra, well, show where I actually backed out of wanting a Mockra lynch in favour of Fener. Please do, because I never voted for Fener, or pushed for a Fener lynch, despite 3 days of in-your-face play, so I don't know where you're getting that from. As for your last statement, well, it's ironic that you point out an error in my logic. Day Watch = Dark Other, and Night Watch = Light Other, so if my speculation is correct there's a 2 or 3/12 chance you are Day Watch and a 4 or 5/12 chance you're Night Watch. Where's the logic flaw and/or secret knowledge there?

As for the Inquisitor reveal, that's bold. Why you would set yourself up as a Watch target to save yourself from a lynch is beyond me, although it does reveal that probably you don't control your own lynches.

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Posted 22 March 2010 - 08:59 PM

I have to go for a little while, so no vote from me.

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Posted 22 March 2010 - 09:02 PM

View PostShadow, on 22 March 2010 - 08:55 PM, said:

Yes, and that's why I haven't lynched you outright. Let's face it... if you really are a member of the DW, unless there's some kind of blanket provisional in from the Inquisition, you are going to get lynched. If you were DW, the smarter move would have been to just be quiet and hope you aren't lynched off.

That's why I am on the fence. I want to believe that you're just human and made a terminology mistake, but I'm still suspicious and at L-1, let's face it, you're going to get lynched at some point. Whether it's right now or 7 hours from now, it will almost certainly happen.

errr at the moment we dont really want to lynch the day watch. We're trying to get the night watch.

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Posted 22 March 2010 - 09:04 PM

View PostRuse, on 22 March 2010 - 09:02 PM, said:

View PostShadow, on 22 March 2010 - 08:55 PM, said:

Yes, and that's why I haven't lynched you outright. Let's face it... if you really are a member of the DW, unless there's some kind of blanket provisional in from the Inquisition, you are going to get lynched. If you were DW, the smarter move would have been to just be quiet and hope you aren't lynched off.

That's why I am on the fence. I want to believe that you're just human and made a terminology mistake, but I'm still suspicious and at L-1, let's face it, you're going to get lynched at some point. Whether it's right now or 7 hours from now, it will almost certainly happen.

errr at the moment we dont really want to lynch the day watch. We're trying to get the night watch.


*brains exploding*

really, this goddamn dark/light/night/day bizness is rather annoying

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Posted 22 March 2010 - 09:05 PM

Yeah it means you have to actually pay attention to what your writing :lol:

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Posted 22 March 2010 - 09:07 PM

View PostRuse, on 22 March 2010 - 09:05 PM, said:

Yeah it means you have to actually pay attention to what your writing :lol:


And to what I'm thinking. Which is hard to do.

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Posted 22 March 2010 - 09:17 PM

Why did you throw out your theories on game mechanics, Anthras?

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Posted 22 March 2010 - 09:24 PM

wow, thats quite a reveal.

But, why wouldn't the inquisition control their fate? I think if you really were an inquisitor, you wouldn't have revealed.

Also, if you are inquisition, why would you try to out people on the Watches? wouldn't that just point the 2 sides out to each other? I thought inquisition needed balance?

It's not adding up. But maybe i am misunderstanding their VC.

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Posted 22 March 2010 - 09:26 PM

View PostOsseric, on 22 March 2010 - 09:24 PM, said:

wow, thats quite a reveal.

But, why wouldn't the inquisition control their fate? I think if you really were an inquisitor, you wouldn't have revealed.

Also, if you are inquisition, why would you try to out people on the Watches? wouldn't that just point the 2 sides out to each other? I thought inquisition needed balance?

It's not adding up. But maybe i am misunderstanding their VC.


The first part is answered above and is a matter of believability.

Two is a better point.

I'm trying to weigh game-play versus reveal right now.

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Posted 22 March 2010 - 09:38 PM

View PostEloth, on 22 March 2010 - 09:26 PM, said:

View PostOsseric, on 22 March 2010 - 09:24 PM, said:

wow, thats quite a reveal.

But, why wouldn't the inquisition control their fate? I think if you really were an inquisitor, you wouldn't have revealed.

Also, if you are inquisition, why would you try to out people on the Watches? wouldn't that just point the 2 sides out to each other? I thought inquisition needed balance?

It's not adding up. But maybe i am misunderstanding their VC.


The first part is answered above and is a matter of believability.

Two is a better point.

I'm trying to weigh game-play versus reveal right now.


Yes. Balance is needed. Think about it.

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Posted 22 March 2010 - 09:45 PM

Oh and the mechanics theories was to catch watch members of course, since they would be the ones to confirm or deny said mechanics.

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Posted 22 March 2010 - 10:08 PM

View PostAnthras, on 22 March 2010 - 09:45 PM, said:

Oh and the mechanics theories was to catch watch members of course, since they would be the ones to confirm or deny said mechanics.


How does this explain your theory on the Mirror Inquisitor?

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Posted 22 March 2010 - 10:15 PM

Can't say I believe Anthas reveal, and I didn't like his draw an unlikely role out of the hat and scaremonger stuff earlier either.

I'd be happy to hammer(I think he's L-1?). How long we got left?

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Posted 22 March 2010 - 10:17 PM

a long time. i make it about 15 hours i think

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Posted 22 March 2010 - 10:17 PM

~15 hours. Clock reset at ~9:00 a.m.

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Posted 22 March 2010 - 10:18 PM

Double post! Yay!

This post has been edited by Eloth: 22 March 2010 - 10:19 PM


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Posted 22 March 2010 - 10:19 PM

mwhahahahahaha

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Posted 22 March 2010 - 10:20 PM

I also dislike Gamelon condescending tone, though that's mainly aesthetic. On a more substantial note, I dislike the way he seems to simply try to brush off Anthras accusation by the use of that condescension.

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