[Serc]

 Osseric, on 24 March 2010 - 06:22 PM, said:

 Serc, on 24 March 2010 - 06:59 AM, said:

 Shadow, on 24 March 2010 - 06:16 AM, said:

Well, I'm not sure about a 'roled' analysis, but if you re-read my assessment, it's pretty clear that Ruse is not on Eloth's team, which makes it a fairly decent bet for a non inquisition lynch, IMO.

Ok, but we dont need to be looking for non-inquisition, we need to be looking for Nightwatch recruiter... I was going to say that I thought you and D'riss likely started as RI, as well as Gam and Ruse. Now I'm not sure about you - I'm not sure you'd be pushing a lynch on Ruse if you saw what you purported to see yesterday. It's fairly obvious Ruse isn't inquisition, but it's fairly obvious he isnt a recruiter either, which is where I believe we need to be looking.

Got a meeting now, need to think about this some more.

underlined mine- I agree with this post, it does us no good to look for people who aren't the inquisition or a recruiter, a Ruse lynch would only benefit us if we KNEW that he was on the NW. At this point we can't know that, so I fail to see what a Ruse lynch would do.

@Serc- for someone who said they don't want to be bringing RI pm's into the fray you sure do seem to mention it almost every post. Do I know you are RI.. I am 98% sure. I saw what you saw, and every other RI saw if the same PM was sent. But in following your logic you risk outing the remaining inquisitors on thread, as well as the recruiters and or killers. If you have been recruited I can see this being a good thing, as you can help point out potential inquisitors/competition, but if you haven't been recruited yet, then all you are really doing is pointing out inquisitor possibilities to the killers. Think a little, there are reasons for being purposefully vague. Actually, based on this I would be very surprised if you haven't been recruited yet.

Well I feel I've been a lot vague-er than I could have been. It's a fine line though - the recruiters and the inquisition would have made the same slip ups yesterday and it's very difficult to try call out one without calling out the other. Personally, I have a list of all the people I'm reasonably sure aren't RI, which I won't be posting for obvious reasons. I'm hoping the other RI have done the same and I've brought it up once or twice to make sure they try look at Anthras's train too and avoid lynching someone that isnt going to yield useful info. Unfortunately I can't build a case that I'm sure enough is going to hit a recruiter. If I push a case built mainly on the fact that someone isn't RI and they survive it's more likely to be inquisition than the DW recruiter, which would be better avoided at this point.

[Serc]

I'm going to bed now and as far as I can work out I wont be back before deadline.

vote Shadow

in the hopes that he's an NW recruit.

[Osseric]

ok I am out for many hours. While I think it's a long shot that shadow is a recruiter, with Gaylord and Serc gone, Alkend Mia, we would have to have a huge showing to lynch anyone else. Regardless, I would have been voting shadow anyway, I don't necessarily think he is a leader, but even so, if he comes back not lynched, then we will know he isn't NW, which is good info.

vote shadow


If you really are RI or inquis or DW, then I think we'll be seeing you tomorrow shadow....as long as you don't go crazy and claim a level 2 night elf destructor!

[Shadow]

I put on my Wizard robe and hat.

Also, /sadface

edit: format fail, more /sadface

This post has been edited by Shadow: 24 March 2010 - 10:05 PM

[Ruse]

Ok so i make that

5 votes Shadow (Omtose, Ruse, GL, Osseric, Serc)
2 votes Ruse (Fener, Shadow)

not voted (Alkend, D'riss, Gamelon)

So i think thats L-1 and were waiting for D'riss or Gam to show up, or possibly Alkend.

[Gamelon]

Ok I am here now. I went to the eye doctor and they dilated my pupils till they were the size of the flying saucers from Independence day. Then I had to drive home. I could see to drive but couldn't see the speedometer. This is the first time in 3 hours that I have been able to see my computer. Even that took me putting on my glasses and moving back away from the screen.

As it looks like shadow is really the only option. I will lay down the hammer vote.


Vote Shadow

[Gamelon]

 Osseric, on 24 March 2010 - 07:23 PM, said:

 Ruse, on 24 March 2010 - 07:01 PM, said:

 Shadow, on 23 March 2010 - 04:42 PM, said:

Overall, I get pretty much the following... maybe it's not best to state all of this info, but some of it conflicts with each other. I'm ignoring dead players at this point, since we already know them.

• Lynching Fener is pointless, it won't go through. Possible Inquisition or knows he is RI?
• He's REALLY chummy with Osseric. Possible Inquisition or knows he is RI?
  • Osseric was not a big Fener fan, so the above two conflict.
• He was fairly chummy with Omtose on Day 1/2. Possible Inquisition or knows he's RI?
• He has a lot of suspicion of Gamelon, Ruse, and Galayn Lord.
• He seemed to indicate that he can control his own lynch.
• He seemed to indicate that he learned information from a lynch, even if one didn't occur.
• He seems to be at odds with Anthras's mechanics discussion about the Mirror and lynch control, indicating he may have information about those two which he suspected Anthras may also have.
• Finally, he had suspicions he didn't openly share, possibly about players other than Gamelon, Ruse, and GL.

That's some food for thought, at least.

Errr yeah it did single some people out

Grouping is defferent that singleing.. He grouped Me Omtose and Fener together, and he grouped Gamelon, Ruse and Gay lord together.


But thats just semantics I guess.

ont thing I didn't catch earlier was, his last bullet point. Thats a huge logic leap to Guess who is non-shared suspicions were... he says "Possibly" but then throws out 3 names that fit his case best. How would he know, the suspicions weren't shared. I find it more likely to be D'riss, as he really never mentioned him. Regardless, it looks like that last point is trying to sway people towards Game, Ruse, and GL.

I find myself agreeing with you here Osseric. I find the lack of a D'riss mention to be a big red flag. Why mention all most all of the other players but not him. D'riss isn't like Alkend and not here. He has a lot of posts. Possible association by omission, perhaps.

[D'riss]

Hola people, catching up on the thread.

[D'riss]

Ok, I see we have a Shadow lynch, which probably the best lynch we were going to get today. Personally, I think that if he is Watch he will be a recruit, I don't see him as being a leader, and like I said before, this whole case spiel was too anomalous.

As for the suspicions about me, I'm wondering what they are? I keep seeing my name bandied about, but all I've really noticed is Ruse having a go at me for that sarcastic comment I made to Anthras.

[D'riss]

 Gamelon, on 25 March 2010 - 12:08 AM, said:

 Osseric, on 24 March 2010 - 07:23 PM, said:

 Ruse, on 24 March 2010 - 07:01 PM, said:

 Shadow, on 23 March 2010 - 04:42 PM, said:

Overall, I get pretty much the following... maybe it's not best to state all of this info, but some of it conflicts with each other. I'm ignoring dead players at this point, since we already know them.

• Lynching Fener is pointless, it won't go through. Possible Inquisition or knows he is RI?
• He's REALLY chummy with Osseric. Possible Inquisition or knows he is RI?
  • Osseric was not a big Fener fan, so the above two conflict.
• He was fairly chummy with Omtose on Day 1/2. Possible Inquisition or knows he's RI?
• He has a lot of suspicion of Gamelon, Ruse, and Galayn Lord.
• He seemed to indicate that he can control his own lynch.
• He seemed to indicate that he learned information from a lynch, even if one didn't occur.
• He seems to be at odds with Anthras's mechanics discussion about the Mirror and lynch control, indicating he may have information about those two which he suspected Anthras may also have.
• Finally, he had suspicions he didn't openly share, possibly about players other than Gamelon, Ruse, and GL.

That's some food for thought, at least.

Errr yeah it did single some people out

Grouping is defferent that singleing.. He grouped Me Omtose and Fener together, and he grouped Gamelon, Ruse and Gay lord together.


But thats just semantics I guess.

ont thing I didn't catch earlier was, his last bullet point. Thats a huge logic leap to Guess who is non-shared suspicions were... he says "Possibly" but then throws out 3 names that fit his case best. How would he know, the suspicions weren't shared. I find it more likely to be D'riss, as he really never mentioned him. Regardless, it looks like that last point is trying to sway people towards Game, Ruse, and GL.

I find myself agreeing with you here Osseric. I find the lack of a D'riss mention to be a big red flag. Why mention all most all of the other players but not him. D'riss isn't like Alkend and not here. He has a lot of posts. Possible association by omission, perhaps.

I'd like to mention that all of that is based off Eloth's posts, and I never interacted with Eloth to the best of my knowledge, which could be why I don't factor into Shadow's big case. Alkend is obviously not there 'cos, well...I can't remember anything he's said all game.

[Gamelon]

Well I think that technically Alkend is past his posting due date.

[D'riss]

Yes, I believe it's about past the 36 hour mark for him. That point is irrelevant for his inclusion (or lack thereof) in Shadow's rundown, though.

[D'riss]

So are we just waiting for Ment/GK to resolve?

[Gamelon]

Yes that is what happens now.

[Ruse]

Still waiting

ok il check back in an hour or so

[Path-Shaper]

I'm back

shitty day at work, give me a min to resolve...
-ment

[Path-Shaper]

Despite the overwhelming pressure to kill him, the shadowy figures in charge have instead chosen to render Shadow powerless.

there was no lynch

it is now night, please submit all actions, you have about 12 hours.

-ment

[Path-Shaper]

this mod has done all he needs to for work tomorrow, and is now gonna go sleep

i'll see y'all in 8 hours

-ment

[Serc]

 Path-Shaper, on 25 March 2010 - 02:21 AM, said:

Despite the overwhelming pressure to kill him, the shadowy figures in charge have instead chosen to render Shadow powerless.

there was no lynch

it is now night, please submit all actions, you have about 12 hours.

-ment

No clues in scenes?

[Alkend]

That's not a scene, that's a result. Lol.

I had a bitch of a long day today, what with tons of shit due in and such. Coupled with my normal time zone, that made it impossible for me to post. :S