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Yah. What is cool however is that you can guide her away from the goodsie priesthood guys and make her, at least in words, re-embrace her Bard self from Orlais.
I wonder if DA will follow the path of Mass Effect, with a trilogy with important choices and everything. Something beyond just marking what kind of armies you have available at the ending sequence to throw forward to do almost nothing...
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Posted 16 April 2010 - 11:13 AM
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Posted 16 April 2010 - 11:14 AM
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She's a lot harder to romance too, there's a couple of points in her dialogue paths where you can easily kill the chance for any romance without it being particularly obvious.
Well, being nice to her is the key.
A hard romance was Viconia since it wasn't very obvious what she wanted - aside from the occasional shag.
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I wonder if DA will follow the path of Mass Effect, with a trilogy with important choices and everything. Something beyond just marking what kind of armies you have available at the ending sequence to throw forward to do almost nothing...
I think they will. Right now they are the owners of DA and ME so I expect them to milk those setting for everything they are worth. And look at it this way, ME 2 was better than ME 1 and so it will be with DA. But world building takes a lot of time so of course the first games in the setting had to spend time letting you get to know how everything works. It's not like FR were they can say Luskan and we all know what they are talking about.
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Posted 16 April 2010 - 11:33 AM
It's harder on them, sure. But I really like it when a dev goes the long way and develops a new setting. It worked GREAT for Mass Effect (I can't really decide at this moment if I prefer 40k or the ME setting right now... I sincerely can't decide), and reasonably good for Dragon Age (American dwarves with castes! The Fade! Flipping the usual world "upside down" with the frigid SOUTH this time! Elves living in ghettos, others pushed out to the edge of the world to be nomads - much like in the Witcher setting, mind you).
I guess they noticed that popping ANOTHER D&D game would be getting kinda boring.
I guess they noticed that popping ANOTHER D&D game would be getting kinda boring.
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Posted 16 April 2010 - 11:35 AM
Garak, on 16 April 2010 - 11:14 AM, said:
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She's a lot harder to romance too, there's a couple of points in her dialogue paths where you can easily kill the chance for any romance without it being particularly obvious.
Well, being nice to her is the key.
A hard romance was Viconia since it wasn't very obvious what she wanted - aside from the occasional shag.
This suddenly sounds a lot like GTA...
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Posted 16 April 2010 - 11:42 AM
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I can't really decide at this moment if I prefer 40k or the ME setting right now... I sincerely can't decide
Why even pick one? Just roll with both. One thing 40k has over ME (other than skulls) is sheer insanity.
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Posted 16 April 2010 - 11:46 AM
Aye, the sheer madness of the 40k universe is a quality of it's own. Mass Effect, on the other hand, attempts to construct something at least remotely believable, and utterly awesome at the same time.
They're very, very different. Why I can't properly measure them against each other probably.
They're very, very different. Why I can't properly measure them against each other probably.
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Posted 16 April 2010 - 12:06 PM
Which is when you want insanity go for 40k. You want believable awesomeness go for ME.
Thought calling 40k utterly insane still doesn't manage to properly convey how utterly barmy the setting is.
Thought calling 40k utterly insane still doesn't manage to properly convey how utterly barmy the setting is.
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Posted 16 April 2010 - 12:12 PM
It's like they put every over-the-top ridiculous idea they ever heard into the setting, then made it worse. And it worked!
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Posted 16 April 2010 - 12:32 PM
I dare you read the entire page and the specific description of 40k at each trope's page. I read the whole thing twice now - days well spent I must say 
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Posted 16 April 2010 - 12:45 PM
Way ahead of you :>
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Posted 16 April 2010 - 03:28 PM
Ah, good then.
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Posted 16 April 2010 - 03:39 PM
Man, I loved Mass Effect 2. Mass Effect 1 too, mind you, but the sequel was just mind blowing.
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Posted 11 May 2010 - 03:11 AM
I've gotta add more love for The Witcher.
been playing the Enhanced Edition for the past few weekends, and it is simply amazing.
been playing the Enhanced Edition for the past few weekends, and it is simply amazing.
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Jump Around, on 23 October 2011 - 11:04 AM, said:
And I want to state that Ment has out-weaseled me by far in this game.
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Posted 11 May 2010 - 06:24 AM
Thinking of re-visiting it sometime before part 2 is released. Got a tight schedule on the gaming side though - Final Fantasy X, Final Fantasy XII, Dawn of War 2, and WoW in the middle of it all!
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