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#1 User is offline   D'rek 

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Posted 05 February 2010 - 10:18 PM

Since all the elder gods got booted off the draconean tree, it was only fitting to make them one of their own. This one's a bit weirder as there's not as much information on this and gods don't necessarily give birth the way mortals do. Nevertheless:

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Ancient gods in 3-D, Elder Gods in bordered rectangles, newer gods in rectangles, Ascendants in ellipses. The whole thing is vaguely timelineish from top to bottom, but that's mostly just guesses.


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This post has been edited by D'rek: 05 February 2010 - 10:18 PM

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I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 05 February 2010 - 10:26 PM

Someone's been a busy bee.

I'd pull Brood, he doesn't belong with the others up there, as I've seen none of him being deified, same with Andarist and even Silchas, unless you just feel like including all three of MD's "sons".

Hood is pretty darned debatable. King of a Hold would put someone in Elder God range wouldn't it?

This post has been edited by H.D.: 05 February 2010 - 10:27 PM

Trouble arrives when the opponents to such a system institute its extreme opposite, where individualism becomes godlike and sacrosanct, and no greater service to any other ideal (including community) is possible. In such a system rapacious greed thrives behind the guise of freedom, and the worst aspects of human nature come to the fore....
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Posted 05 February 2010 - 10:28 PM

It's for ascendants as well, no need for just worshipped entities.
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Posted 05 February 2010 - 10:30 PM

Ah, nevermind. There were many more there than I first thought that I wouldn't include as deified.

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Trouble arrives when the opponents to such a system institute its extreme opposite, where individualism becomes godlike and sacrosanct, and no greater service to any other ideal (including community) is possible. In such a system rapacious greed thrives behind the guise of freedom, and the worst aspects of human nature come to the fore....
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Posted 05 February 2010 - 10:42 PM

If it's for ascendents too, shouldn't Paran be under Errastas, and Apsalar under Cots? Is A'p's'a'l'a'r'a on there? I can't find her, if so.
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Posted 05 February 2010 - 10:53 PM

You're missing the two gods of drink from Lether, no?

Also, Apsala'ra the thief?

And, maybe I'm blind or its the resolution, but where is the Crippled God?

EDIT: And the Huntress from the Tiles. Notable Jaghut. And The Pack, notable D'ivers God.

Oh and those 5 Teblor Gods, the Sereghal.

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Posted 05 February 2010 - 10:58 PM

Well that's the big issue right, do I include each and every little thing? Arguably the Seregahl had little influence beyond that one strand of Tarthenal on Lether, and that was followed by being the Azath for a bloody long time. Basically I stuck only the biggies for now, inclusion of all the less significant folks to follow.

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I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 06 February 2010 - 08:31 PM

well just for starters i'd say master of the deck paran and the crippled god would be significant folks
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Posted 12 February 2010 - 07:27 AM

Great work D'rek... Quibble: shouldn't Oponn technically be TWO boxes?
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Posted 12 February 2010 - 01:07 PM

Wow, that is really some great work! Thanks! :rolleyes:
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Posted 16 February 2010 - 01:10 AM

 Skywalker, on 12 February 2010 - 07:27 AM, said:

Great work D'rek... Quibble: shouldn't Oponn technically be TWO boxes?


Hadn't thought of that... but maybe...

View Postworrywort, on 14 September 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 22 March 2010 - 12:25 AM

Cool work on all the trees. The inclusion of most the gods/ascendants is debatable if it is worth it, but the Crippled God is one of if not the most important God in the series, so he certainly should be included over people like Grizzin Farl and Mowri. However, the more the better.
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Posted 08 May 2012 - 12:10 AM

Is there a bigger version of this awesome thing? Some of the names are hard to read. Maybe I need my eyes checked.
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Posted 08 May 2012 - 01:54 AM

 Kanese S, on 08 May 2012 - 12:10 AM, said:

Is there a bigger version of this awesome thing? Some of the names are hard to read. Maybe I need my eyes checked.


There was 2 years ago...

Yup, if you click on it you can download a bigger one.

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View Postworrywort, on 14 September 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 08 May 2012 - 02:38 AM

*Does so immediately*
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Posted 09 October 2015 - 09:36 PM

I am resurrecting this thread in the hope that D'rek might have a go at updating it with the latest info... or is it already out there in a different thread?
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Posted 10 October 2015 - 03:25 AM

There's two fatally major errors on it. One minor.


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...........D'rek...........
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.....everyone else....
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Posted 14 October 2015 - 08:53 PM

This entire concept basically stopped making sense around TCG/B&B, and even less so after FoD. Too much conflicting information.

View Postworrywort, on 14 September 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 15 October 2015 - 07:35 PM

Oh, that's a shame. Was hoping to add it to your gallery on the Wiki

http://malazan.wikia..._Malazan_Empire

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