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Anomandaris, on 09 February 2010 - 08:44 PM, said:

Sure I may die for this insanely stupid first day play but the potential fallout will be hilarious first spite will be taken with me and Ruse and Telas have revealed as faction in other words potential targets.

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Morgalain thinks army size = number of players in faction.

Korvalain, on 09 February 2010 - 10:13 PM, said:

since we all start at 1? .. then that would mean future teams are purely based on chance. Technically no one has a faction yet.. hmpf, that certainly makes it easier to pick out the non-faction leader. Or one would think so at any rate.

So, even though I know I'm going to regret this, I've been away from active gaming for too long to just trust my gut. Exchange Tulas Shorn for Ruse if you'd please.

Uh, no? It could be 2 factions right now: You as one and the other 13 players as another. And every player would have an army size of 1. I don't think you get this.

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Some correspondence:

Ruse, on 09 February 2010 - 11:10 PM, said:

Shit- Meanas just mentioned on thread that " EVERYONE is in a faction" making me think he is not recruitable. But Ano is at L-1 and I would definately be at the end of the list if I changed. Against my better judgement I am going to keep my recruit the same as it was my first instinct... but I think it may be a mistake.

Something specially for GK:

Meanas, on 09 February 2010 - 11:25 PM, said:

Do me a favor and pass along the following message to General King upon his lynch:

"That's for coin-flip killer showers in Star Trek, you bastard!

Love, PB"

FLAGGED FOR D'REK'S ATTENTION:

Tennes, on 09 February 2010 - 11:42 PM, said:

Hang on, this part confused me:

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Directive - Each night you can send a message to the army of your choice. They will receive it the morning after.
(Once you have this ability you can upgrade it to automatically be sent to all your subordinates, though you will not learn who they are)

Not know who they are? Does this mean I have to ask to recruit alt names, or ROT3K names? Like, for example, recruit Telas or recruit Han Sui? I knew there was something about this I wasn't getting.

You ask to recruit alt names, don't worry about that.

I'll leave the explaining of that particularly clause to D'rek though, since I'm not 100% certain about it myself.

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OK, lynch happened at 6:28 PM Path-Shaper time (no idea what timezone that is). The following order was submitted after that point - should it be accepted? EDIT: Just realised it doesn't actually make any difference to the outcome.

Liosan, on 10 February 2010 - 12:25 AM, said:

Hurm. Offensive, please.

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Also, I'm taking this to mean that Okaros wanted a Defensive Subordinate:

Okaros, on 09 February 2010 - 03:07 PM, said:

Ok, I hope Ruse is defensive please.

Will check out the manager when I have a bit of time free, have had a stupidly busy day today.

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OK, so I've killed Anomandaris and started a new day, and sent PMs to Ruse and Tulas Shorn as per the templates. I also sent PMs to Okaros and Korvalain to inform them of their success. I wasn't sure quite how much information to put in those though, so you might want to double check them. Have yet to update any of the early posts in SH though, I'll leave that to you.

Sir Thursday

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FLAGGED FOR D'REK'S ATTENTION:

Meanas, on 10 February 2010 - 01:31 AM, said:

Just a question, since it looks like Night was resolved (thanks ST). Will we be informed if our army size increases or decreases (from the results of night actions, etc)?

Thanks.

I'll forward the question to D'rek for you.

Tulas Shorn, on 10 February 2010 - 01:39 AM, said:

Guard Ruse then.


TULAS SHORN SHALL NOT BE SHORN!

Noted. (I put this in the Night 2 Actions post, but didn't do any of the colour coding - I really have to head to bed now, my apologies.)


Sir Thursday

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Tennes, on 10 February 2010 - 01:50 AM, said:

Ok, one last thing.

Assuming that we just send in PMs whenever for night actions (because I really didn't think about the 0 night length), I've missed out on the first night by not sending one during the day? Cause I'd like to recruit Meanas if possible, but will suck it up and do it for next night if I have fucked up. Will send separate PM for it if needed.

Tennes, on 10 February 2010 - 01:52 AM, said:

Argh, that should have been recruit Meanas as an offensive officer.

Yeah, you missed a recruit on the first night. Sorry about that. But the earlier you submit actions, the better, so good job for sending this one in early .

Ruse, on 10 February 2010 - 01:45 AM, said:

Do I find the Alt of Zhao Fen?

Does this mean I can no longer recruit?

the wording of the PM seems to denote geographical restrictions.. is this just the wording, or am I only allowed to guard certain people?

Does this mean all my nifty possible actions are no longer available to me?

Or basically I am just a guard for Okaros, who doesn't know me?

So many questions

You are now Zhao Fan - Yang Feng is dead. I will leave it to D'rek to give you a nice bio and everything - she's the Rot3K expert. You have lost all abilities you used to possess, and are now limited to guarding every night. The geographical restrictions are just the wording - you may guard anyone you want.

Oh, and Okaros knows who you are, since he recruited you .



Sir Thursday, really off to bed this time

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Thanks a ton ST. I think I'll work my way through this chronologically. My response to Tennes is below, and the army size one I'll just answer in-thread (answer: yes we should tell them when their army size changes).

The only slip-up you had ST (and there's no way you'd have known this since I didn't specify anywhere) was to say who the previous officers of Ruse and Tulas was to their new faction leaders. Luckily, neither Alt or Morgoth had read those PMs yet so I edited it out. All is well!

Path-Shaper, on 10 February 2010 - 01:09 AM, said:

Tennes, on 09 February 2010 - 11:42 PM, said:

Hang on, this part confused me:

Quote

Directive - Each night you can send a message to the army of your choice. They will receive it the morning after.
(Once you have this ability you can upgrade it to automatically be sent to all your subordinates, though you will not learn who they are)

Not know who they are? Does this mean I have to ask to recruit alt names, or ROT3K names? Like, for example, recruit Telas or recruit Han Sui? I knew there was something about this I wasn't getting.

You ask to recruit alt names, don't worry about that.

I'll leave the explaining of that particularly clause to D'rek though, since I'm not 100% certain about it myself.


Sir Thursday

D'rek here.

All the targets of all of your actions are indicated by their alt name, which is the same as their army name (ie Mockra, Emurlahn, etc.).

For the directive ability, when it is not upgraded, you specify an alt and it is sent to that player. For the upgraded version, however, you send the message to PS and it is automatically given to all your subordinates. The "not be told who they are" bit, means that you will not get a list back saying "the message was sent to Mockra, Emurlahn, Tellan and Barghast" or anything like that.

Hope that helps.

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Gwynn/Spite:

Sukul Ankhadu, on 10 February 2010 - 02:24 AM, said:

I'm attempting a recruitment of Meanas.

baudin

Telas, on 10 February 2010 - 03:54 AM, said:

Recruit Korvalain (Tactical)

noted.

illy

Tennes, on 10 February 2010 - 03:57 AM, said:

Yes, thanks. Still confused about when to send night orders, but will assume it should have been done before the actual night.

Even if it is too late for my Night 1 action, I'd like to recruit Meanas as an offensive officer for the nearest night action to now.

Send orders anytime during the day before the night they would occur on.

And your action is noted.

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Lastly, I'm retconning a wee bit in that instead of Ruse becoming Zhao Fan, he'll be Huang Zhong instead. I had written to use Zhao Fan with Han Xuan if necessary, but using inactive faction leaders as subordinates will just be too much crazybrainz for them I think so I am only going to merge subordinates if necessary but not use inactive faction leaders. I told Ruse about it and well I guess he'll know there is no Zhao Fan, but there's still 29 he don't know about so no big whoop.

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Liosan, on 10 February 2010 - 04:07 AM, said:

So, what you're saying, is that I lost to Korbas, so my old character got killed and now I'm Lu Fan, loyal to Korbas?

Pretty much. If it helps, I'm sure it was a sneak attack and you would totally have won if you hadn't been drunk at the time.

Tennes, on 10 February 2010 - 04:10 AM, said:

Cheers again. Not only is this my first all mercs game, it's my first 0 night game, so I didn't think about night orders until too late. Oh well, learning experience etc.

Also I was hoping to work in a 'I shall write him such a letter that he will die' reference (Zhugey is great) but your death scene beat me to the punch. Nice one.

Ooh, good idea, I should try and use that one.

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Meanas, on 10 February 2010 - 04:29 AM, said:

Well since I didn't get lucky last night, time to try again.

Recruit Ruse as a Defensive Subordinate

Also, mental note that Tulas is not Offensive.

^^or is he?!!!

Action noted.

Spite, on 10 February 2010 - 04:55 AM, said:

I assume my recruit attempt was unsuccessful.

Today I will try to recruit Tulas Shorn (offensive)

Noted.

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[Anomandaris]

I've been waiting for the star trek game to bite me in the arse.

Gods this is where I sometimes miss modcraft, I might have survived day 1 there. Whether because people will be wondering I'm sort of jester or they are not on until night is debatable.

My view I rather have fun than lurk.

My attitude is if you don't have a faction leader you don't need to include in your reasoning for lynching he is not my faction leader.

[General King]

Alt vote on me clearly shows he a faction leader.

Just the way he had worded it was so bloody cautious and covering the bases. My idea was to be brazen and so suicidal that there was no way I could be a faction leader I forgot that you guys love to lynch me over a fire and I gave you the wood.

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Meanas, on 10 February 2010 - 05:33 AM, said:

I was under the impression that everyone had a name like in the opening scene and now I look pretty foolish... basically indicating that the fact that Sun Ce was a Warlord indicates he was a general... when I also have a name. Ugh.

Not everyone, just the faction leaders. But yeah, you look silly.

Meanas, on 10 February 2010 - 03:21 PM, said:

Yeah that means that a savvy subordinate out there will be able to make a case that I am also 'named' and thus a warlord.

Wish that had been made more clear... or that you hadn't gone and announced it on thread.

Okaros, on 10 February 2010 - 06:43 AM, said:

Sweet! Hopefully there too many other people who got lucky night one. Now I just need to avoid getting lynched Hope Tulas isnt a tactical subordinate, wouls suck if I got hit by a find night one

Korvalain, on 10 February 2010 - 12:21 PM, said:

no, it doesn't seem like I do. I feel sort of dumb


Soooo... Everyone started with an army size of one. I guess my mistake was to assume that a leader would start with an army size equal to his faction size, as that seems to be where I'm at.

So technically then I'm the cultist of this game? or at least 1 cultist faction, Lu Bu seems to be considered a loner after all. On day 1 I was a faction of 1 whereas now Ive got the guard Tulas Shorn (presumably with an army size of 1) in my faction? Making us a faction of 2 so far.

Correct?

eventually I'll have to get it right

Yeah, pretty much. On day 1 you were a faction of one player (you) wtih an army size of 1.
Now it is day 2 and your faction has two players, you (who has an army size of 2) and Tulas Shorn (who you don't know the army size of)

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[General King]

I think Okaros might be the next faction leader to bite it.

[General King]

And Illy gets rep for the terminator joke.

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Korbas, on 10 February 2010 - 04:17 PM, said:

Do I get to know if I managed to get tactical or not?

Korbas, on 10 February 2010 - 04:29 PM, said:

And I assume Liosan knows I'm his leader?

Lu Fan is a scholar, as stated above. That means he's tactical. He knows you're his leader.

Korbas, on 10 February 2010 - 04:30 PM, said:

Also, considering this:

(Once you have this ability you can upgrade it to automatically be sent to all your subordinates, though you will not learn who they are)

It makes it sound like I have subordinates I don't know about. Do I?

I mean, I know who i'm recruiting, but did I start with other followers?

Every time you recruit successfully you'll be told, and you did not have any followers at the start. You will not acquire any new followers other than by recruiting. And that's about all I'm going to say on that (but you can probably figure it out).

Korbas, on 10 February 2010 - 04:46 PM, said:

Ok, cheers.

Oh, and provisional on Omtose, offensive if possible.

Noted.

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Meanas, on 10 February 2010 - 04:49 PM, said:

Hrrrm, Did Telas just that horribad argument against me for a reason? Maybe he attacked me last night and didn't get a night result. Possible he's Offensive/Tactical? But then why would he try and out himself and potentially get a 'return fire' night action from me?

So tempting to change my target to him... but that violates one of my core philosophies about Mafia.

Sukul Ankhadu, on 10 February 2010 - 05:04 PM, said:

Heh Meanas and Telas are so obviously in the same team, it's hurting my brain.
I think Meanas is a leader, which means I'll try to recruit Telas next. Man, I can't afford to get behind in the recruitment track so bleeeh on managing to hit the offensive leader on my first try. At least I know who I should try to lynch at first chance I get.

Is that a formal action request?

Sukul Ankhadu, on 10 February 2010 - 05:22 PM, said:

It's not night, is it? Can I do an action request at this time?

Yes of course. Night is 0 hours so don't wait until then! Submit actions the day before.

Sukul Ankhadu, on 10 February 2010 - 05:24 PM, said:

well then it is a formal action request.

Action noted then - Sukul recruits Telas. Wanna specify a personality?

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Okaros with some thoughts, and a provisional on Meanas:

Okaros, on 10 February 2010 - 07:20 PM, said:

Couple of things for spoilers.

Firstly to Ruse - I'm know it sucks to be recruited into a faction who's leader is under pressure, so thanks for the sweet-ass symping there, hopefully I'll survive yet. Otherwise, sorry for pretty much destroying your chances of winning this game.

Hmm, think it's time for a provisional. Ideally I want to recruit someone who's been heading up the train against me. Tulas would be a good choice, but I have a sneaky suspiscion that he's a tactical sub and put a find on me last night. Which would leave him with an army size of two, so my action would fail. Which is something I can't afford by now, I need to get into the realm of multiple actions per night as quick as possible, so my army size can really explode. (I'm assuming here that you get a point per successful NA, rather than one point if any NA is successful).

With that in mind I think I'm going to attempt to recruit Meanas, and that he is magically transformed into a tactical subordinate in the process.

Ah yes, forgot to talk about that earlier (knew I was forgetting something). Anyhoo, your army size is only increased by your primary action - recruit. The others are secondary and don't affect your army size. Sorry.

More from Sukul:

Sukul Ankhadu, on 10 February 2010 - 07:35 PM, said:

So, am I correct in assuming that my first night action was too late and it didn't go through?

Only actions submitted before the end of the day were processed.

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