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PBeanas:

Meanas, on 08 February 2010 - 07:33 PM, said:

My mistake.

If I recruit someone, do they become a sub-ordinate officer of mine? What about if I recruit another faction leader, do they become a subordinate? What if I get recruited? Do my recruits go along with me to my new faction or stay on my old faction without a leader?

Since I'm Tactical and Defensive > Tactical > Offensive > Defensive, if my recruitment even works, that means Tulas Shorn was Offensive. I'm sure the balance in the game is designed around having roughly equal-at-start factions and subordinates, so I'm tempted to recruit Tulas as Offensive, which makes him no different than before, and keeps the status quo.

Offensive officers help me keep the population in check, but my powers are definitely geared toward a LONG game, not necessarily one won by attrition. My own gained powers allow me to bolster army size (this looks borderline overpowered, especially since if I hit rank 4, I've successfully recruited 3 armies already), pass messages to my troops (key for signaling each other, as well as using it to identify other leaders), and heal (which seems the weakest, since if my troops' armies are big enough, kills will fail anyway).

I'm pretty excited about the idea of throwing off any potential balance in the game, and I want to mass my armies without having my allies kill everyone off, but I need to also make sure I have players around that can counter Defensive armies. Hrrmmm...

Successful recruits become subordinate officers of yourself. If you get recruited or die your subordinates remain as they are and continue on the existing faction, but none will arise to replace you as faction leader.

Meanas, on 08 February 2010 - 07:37 PM, said:

OK, I think recruitment into Tactical is a mistake. I can already handle Offensive players on my own in tie situations. If we have too many tacticians, we'll be hitting the same offensive targets.

Offensive will only kill off Defensive players, which may certainly be useful to me... but if I am successfully recruitment offensive players, I'm already leveling up which helps me try to stay ahead of the Defensive players.

I think the best move is to recruit Tulas into the Defensive class.

I'm playing for a long game here.

Use a Defensive-minded recruitment on Tulas Shorn

Actio noted.

Meanas, on 08 February 2010 - 08:08 PM, said:

Here's a quick alt guess: Anomandaris is General King.

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Okaralt:

Okaros, on 08 February 2010 - 07:57 PM, said:

Ok, I'm sorta getting it now. So since everyone has an army size of one, I guess my only chance at succeeding (and not being stuck on the back foot for the rest of the game Heroes style) is to hit a defensive subordinate.

I'm gonna put in a provisional in for Ruse - hopefully I'm not too far down the queue. No idea who might be offensive/defensive at this point, but I'm pretty sure that's PB. Maybe if he's on my side this time he'll break the game in my favour

Action noted. You should specify a personality type you'd like to recruit Ruse into, as well (you won't lose your spot in the line from this).

Okaros, on 08 February 2010 - 08:16 PM, said:

Also - you said something is up with the manager? Bit of a description as to what the problem is and I will see if i can fix it without going into the backend.

Yeah, the timer page seems to bug out on me in both IE and Firefox. When I first go to it the cursor goes to the busy signal over any of the applet part and i can't enter anything in the day/night boxes. If I click edit it lets me type numbers into the box but clicking save doesn't seem to do anything.

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Ruse, on 08 February 2010 - 08:50 PM, said:

Ok since I am not sure when I'll be on again, I'd like too:

Recruit the Meanas army, I'd like them to be tactical.

Also, another question, Am I able to use Catapults and Arbalests on myself?

Action noted. And no you cannot (because then you could just heal yourself every night while recruiting everyone else).

Korvalain, on 08 February 2010 - 08:59 PM, said:

Ah, well I imagine I'd want to upgrade recruit before anything.

Hm, I'd also like a defensive player, and I'm targeting Tulas Shorn for no apparent reason

Action noted.

[Tapper]

Kudos to you, D'rek - set-up looks mind-boggling awesome, let's hope it isn't hit by lowposting and other fun reducing behaviour.

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Tulas Shorn, on 08 February 2010 - 09:50 PM, said:

Hello,

I would like to recruit the Meanas army. Prefer an Offensive army most, Defensive second.

Am I doing this right?

Action noted: recruit Meanas (offensive)

You don't need to specify a secondary personality, it's no quota system, you'll either get your choice or not.

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Griefbas:

Korbas, on 08 February 2010 - 11:15 PM, said:

This post struck me as odd:

Galayn Lord, on 08 February 2010 - 01:57 PM, said:

Tennes, on 08 February 2010 - 01:25 PM, said:

I'm guessing those of us who've played a Dynasty Warriors game are going to have a bit of a heads up for this one.

I think that calls for a vote. Bastard.....

vot.......

*has second thoughts*

I'm not sure if lynching is what we're supposed to do early in this game.


and I hate my alt....."Gaylord"....Gaylord"...I can just hear the school children

Not sure I want to comment though.

Questions:

You say that everyones army size is one.

Does that mean they'll all be recruiting, or are some factions already set up?

Army size is just a player's personal army's size, it has nothing to do with the size of the factions. A faction could currently have any number of players and their associated armies, and each individual player would currently have an army size of 1.

[Sir Thursday]

So looking at the listed NAs at the moment, it looks to me as though the following recruits were successful:

Spite (Gwynn) recruits Liosan (Silencer)
Okaros (Alt) recruits Ruse (The Dude)
Tulas Shorn (Shinrei) recruits Meanas (PB)

It's going to suit Shinrei being a faction leader - with the big army he can only be killed during the day for the time being, and PB is a useful ally. I pick them for greatness.


Sir Thursday

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Tapper, on 08 February 2010 - 09:56 PM, said:

Kudos to you, D'rek - set-up looks mind-boggling awesome, let's hope it isn't hit by lowposting and other fun reducing behaviour.

Yeah, that would be highly unfortunate. I set the day timer really high so everyone should find the opportunity to get on at the very least once per day and have no problems inputting actions every day, but we shall see...


It is kind of dead right now. I'm optimistic that once the first lynch and night actions go through, wherein a number of named faction-leading characters get death scenes but only one is CFd and the player actually dies, it will spark plenty of conversation and really get the game going.

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Sir Thursday, on 09 February 2010 - 12:01 AM, said:

So looking at the listed NAs at the moment, it looks to me as though the following recruits were successful:

Spite (Gwynn) recruits Liosan (Silencer)
Okaros (Alt) recruits Ruse (The Dude)
Tulas Shorn (Shinrei) recruits Meanas (PB)

It's going to suit Shinrei being a faction leader - with the big army he can only be killed during the day for the time being, and PB is a useful ally. I pick them for greatness.


Sir Thursday

Nope, right now the only successful recruits are:

Okaros (Han Xuan) recruit Ruse (Yang Feng) - SUCCEEDS
Korvalain (Lu Bu) recruit(def) Tulas Shorn (Gongsun Du) - SUCCEEDS

spite (tactical) fails against liosan (defensive) and you missed Korv recruiting Tulas, so of course Tulas cant recruit after that.

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Baudelas:

Telas, on 09 February 2010 - 01:56 AM, said:

ok whats the protocol on the timing of a secondary provisional? can i add a provisio to mine incase my original target is lynched? if so

Recruit Korbas if Ano is lynched

Telas, on 09 February 2010 - 02:14 AM, said:

Actually cancel all my precious ones, i have the feeling he might be trying to get recruits (though he is being a bit obvious) so for now

Recruit Okaros or Korbas( if Okaros is lynched) both tactical

As per the OP, there are no provisionals in this game. You must specify one and only one target.

Telas, on 09 February 2010 - 03:00 AM, said:

So no back ups, if the target you picked get lynched then so be it? fine il stick with the Okaros one then

Okay. Wanna pick a personality?

Telas, on 09 February 2010 - 03:48 AM, said:

i already said that i thought. Okaros (tactical) my thinking atm is that, if i read your OP right then i get the results of successful actions so il get find results, so with a find and a kill combined with the message power i can probably get a good faction going.

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And Gwynn absolutely nails the game setup:

Spite, on 09 February 2010 - 03:03 AM, said:

My take on the set up:

I assume we have 14 factions to start, all players are warlords and the factions will be built up with successful recruits. As such the winning warlord is very likely to be a combination of lucky and online when the lynches occur in the first few days. A couple of early successes for anyone and it will be tough for a killer to get them until army raising powers come into play.

Hopefully Liosan logs in soon. I purposefully picked someone who had not posted yet, thinking it gave me a better shot of hitting someone who had not already had a successful action. I would rather not have to change that now as I bet most have orders in.

Heh, that's an interesting idea on it, I'll have to remember that for future games...

Spite, on 09 February 2010 - 03:47 AM, said:

Future games, sure

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Bubba Lord:

Galayn Lord, on 09 February 2010 - 03:54 AM, said:

you do understand I have no idea what I'm doing....

That's fine.

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Liosan, on 09 February 2010 - 06:16 AM, said:

I'd like it if Korbas was recruited to my faction.

Mainly because I figure GET ACTION IN QUICK due to the order of precedence shit.

noted. Please specify a personality you'd prefer him to become and maybe it'll come true.

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morgoth:

Korvalain, on 09 February 2010 - 01:57 PM, said:

Anyways, I apologize for posting so little. Opening my mouth generally gets me lynched, especially in merc games and as I seemingly have a potentially important role I'd rather try to live past day 1. It will improve I promise

ment:

Omtose, on 09 February 2010 - 02:47 PM, said:

Let's recruit Korvalain

edit: make him intelligence-focused.

Noted


alt:

Okaros, on 09 February 2010 - 03:07 PM, said:

Ok, I hope Ruse is defensive please.

Will check out the manager when I have a bit of time free, have had a stupidly busy day today.

Okaros, on 09 February 2010 - 04:11 PM, said:

Try it now, think a block of code was in the wrong place.

Okaros, on 09 February 2010 - 04:31 PM, said:

Dunno if you'll actually answer this, but do all the members of a team know each other, or only their faction leader?

It's in the OP.

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PBeanas:

Meanas, on 09 February 2010 - 04:54 PM, said:

General King is not as stupid as his horribad grammar would lead you to believe, so I know he's up to something. He's clearly trying to draw a lot of attention to himself and he's not downplaying the potential chance he's Lu Bu and a sellsword.

I'd imagine Lu Bu is an 'Offensive' player (if not some insane badass that just kills you for attacking him), so it could be that Ano is fishing to get himself hit with Tactical players looking for an easy target on Day 1, so it could be that Ano is actually Defensive, which would then trump the Tactical player.

I suspect Ano's in a lot of trouble of getting lynched today because he's taken so long to respond and his responses aren't really that good for a player trying to avoid a lynch. For some reason, I'm getting away with it on-thread (who knows if I'm getting away with it behind closed doors if he's really a leader), and Okaros seems to be taking most of the heat.

I just hope people don't think Sukul, Ano, Tulas, are all MY lackeys for their assistance in my suspicions.

If they think you're some powerful general with all those followers they're in for a surprise!

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GK:

Anomandaris, on 09 February 2010 - 05:10 PM, said:

Can I look like I'm faking off comm threads to someone? LIke I accidenetly posted a off comm threads convo to the thread page?

Sure.

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This is not going to end well for him. The OP clearly says you can fake this stuff, I don't think anyone will believe him.

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Korbas, on 09 February 2010 - 05:02 PM, said:

Provisional on Liosan.

Path-Shaper, on 09 February 2010 - 05:06 PM, said:

Korbas, on 09 February 2010 - 05:02 PM, said:

Provisional on Liosan.

You mean action on Liosan? Also, specify personality?

Korbas, on 09 February 2010 - 05:23 PM, said:

Umm, I assumed it was a night action, is that right?

Just used to saying provisional I suppose.

Yeah, well I figured I'd just make sure there ain't no miscommunication. And gimme a personality.

Korbas, on 09 February 2010 - 05:27 PM, said:

Oh, and I will have tactical. A finder could be handy. Nice to have one to distract away from me, and scout out possible recruits etc.

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PBeanas

Meanas, on 09 February 2010 - 05:56 PM, said:

I am a bit worried about the potential outcome of night 1. I don't know all of the details for sure, but if everyone starts at level 1, it does seem that the lucky people will get to level up and the unlucky ones may be stuck for a while. For me, that is crippling, since I'm on my own right now.

Someone (Spite, I think) brought up a good point in that people who put in actions later may end up being more successful than the early pickers simply because the available targets could potentially have had an army destroyed earlier in the evening.

My odds are basically right about 1/3 by picking very early (maybe slightly better, if I take myself out of the equation).

That is true about later actions, except that everyone is at the minimum right now so it won't really be a factor until later. Still good to keep in mind though, especially for Guards who may be tempted to put all their actions in far ahead of time.


Okaralt:

Okaros, on 09 February 2010 - 06:11 PM, said:

Ok, but it doesnt mention anything about whether the leader knows who his followers are. Although it does say a faction leader gets reports of successful actions. So does the faction leader get told the alt of his subordinates, or only there army name? Example Lu Bu's guard was successful as opposed to Ruse's guard was successful.

Edit - also, did you check the manager? Looks like my layout in your last vote update, but you might just be doing it by hand the same way.

The information in the OP is true, and for anything else you'll just have to wait until it happens to find out

Just got home now so I'll check the MM soon, wasn't worth trying on the slow computers at school.

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Meanas, on 09 February 2010 - 07:35 PM, said:

Well then, are you stating that an army's size doesn't actually get 'reduced by 1' until after all night actions are resolved? The way I saw it, the following would happen.

Example: I (Tactical) and Spite (Tactical) make a hostile night action against Tulas Shorn (Tactical). If Spite is a faction leader like me, then my action goes in first and destroys one of Tulas's armies. Spite's action follows mine, and succeeds because Tulas now has 0 armies.

If you're saying that the 'destroy army' part happens at the end of night, then we'd BOTH fail and BOTH destroy an army (putting Tulas presumably at 0).

No, your original beliefs were valid. It's just that 1 is the minimum army size - there is no 0 or negatives. In fact, I think I'll say that on-thread.

Meanas, on 09 February 2010 - 08:03 PM, said:

Ohhhh, I see now. Well then, it's definitely better to get actions in early for Night 1.

Thumbs up to me for being probably the first person to get an action in!

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